OR. What I said was tough and rugged OR resourceful. Barbaric or thug groups being the tough and rugged, Rick's group being more resourceful (although plenty tough when called upon).
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OR. What I said was tough and rugged OR resourceful. Barbaric or thug groups being the tough and rugged, Rick's group being more resourceful (although plenty tough when called upon).
It's interesting on how we look at things from our relative stable society point-of-view in accessing the morality of people put in much more challenging circumstances.
By today's standards, George Washington and the rest of the the, "patriots," of the Revolutionary War would be barbarians.
And it's also worth remembering that General Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground - pillaged endless numbers of Southern communities and likely were, "barbaric," by today's standards in how they survived the Civil War.
On topic: good episode. Although I'm finding myself to not be as, "in love," with this show as much as prior seasons. Some of the plots are becoming rinse repeats of earlier episodes.+
Well he was never in any of the same shots as any of the other actors. There was a brief shot of him that panned to Bob but it could have been a transitional cut. There was a group shot of him from behind, and a shot of his legs walking past the girls, but I imagine they were doubles.
Plus I imagine an actor like him doesn't have huge amounts of free time to go do little cameos like that, so they probably just brought him in when they could.
Think about this group, or any other group, that was safely locked behind a wall for a year or two. They were not locked in a daily struggle for survival. They did not get stronger.
Or perhaps a group that found safety on an island. They will not get stronger. They will get runover when a tougher group shows up.
If you found an easy way to survive in the ZA, you're doing it wrong.
This series has kept my attention since it's debut in 2010 because it always shocks. 
I thought they were all in at least one shot. But I sure wouldn't swear to it.
Its kinda sad that when I saw the three black characters together in the car at the beginning, my first thought was "Welp, I bet one of them is gonna die." thanks to TWD's black person quota.
Also - I just can't buy Tyrese being so worked up by this kids trauma that he fails to notice kid zombie walking up behind him. That seemed awful idiot-plotty for this show.
Those faults aside though, the rest was absolutely fantastic. I loved the look of this episode, I loved the weirdness of it all - what the fuck was up with that van filled with live zombie torsos?! Plus the fact that they seem to have finally moved out of the Atlanta area - if theres one thing the show is gonna need sooner or later, its a change of scenery. I kinda want them to head up north into snow covered lands, or down south into dryer climates. What they did this week though was different enough.
Also - I just can't buy Tyrese being so worked up by this kids trauma that he fails to notice kid zombie walking up behind him. That seemed awful idiot-plotty for this show.
Those faults aside though, the rest was absolutely fantastic. I loved the look of this episode, I loved the weirdness of it all - what the fuck was up with that van filled with live zombie torsos?! Plus the fact that they seem to have finally moved out of the Atlanta area - if theres one thing the show is gonna need sooner or later, its a change of scenery. I kinda want them to head up north into snow covered lands, or down south into dryer climates. What they did this week though was different enough.
In-series right now they're in Virginia (where Noah had said his family lived.) The location scouts did a a decent job of finding locations that were touch woodsier-looking which one may expect from Virginia over Georgia and I suspect there's even post-production work being done to fool with the coloring of final cut of the film so their now location has a different overall look.
But in the real-world, production is likely to remain in Georgia and not move along with the where the characters are, meaning the production elements will be limited to locations and weather conditions in Georgia which isn't likely to lead to too many snow-covered scenes.
But in the real-world, production is likely to remain in Georgia and not move along with the where the characters are, meaning the production elements will be limited to locations and weather conditions in Georgia which isn't likely to lead to too many snow-covered scenes.
The preview for next week was confusing. What was going on? Were they burned out? Demoralized?
I hope the show isn't devolving into "Crazy Perverted Groups that force our mostly-good guys to fight/kill them, thereby making for more soul searching".
Honestly, (I know this isn't a new idea) why don't they head for the coast where they could fish and support themselves? Even in DC, the resources must be strained after all this time. I would think that after all that has happened, they would want to keep away from other people.
I hope the show isn't devolving into "Crazy Perverted Groups that force our mostly-good guys to fight/kill them, thereby making for more soul searching".
Honestly, (I know this isn't a new idea) why don't they head for the coast where they could fish and support themselves? Even in DC, the resources must be strained after all this time. I would think that after all that has happened, they would want to keep away from other people.
In universe, the fall of the prison is not that far off--probably one month to five weeks in the past, so that's recent enough.
The hallucination Governor's mocking mirrors the dialogue with the beaten Milton in "Welcome to the Tombs", where the Governor believed people need to either "learn something" (or "earn their keep") in the ZA world.
As much as I hope there are no more deaths or kidnappings, I think that's exactly what the producers have in store for the heroes. In order to top the season threading effects of the Governor, Terminus and Dawn, they will up the shock / violence previewed with the mutilated bodies at Noah's compound.
Do not be surprised if one of the heroes loses a limb, eye or something else just as horrifying...even though much of that had already been explored with Merle, Hershel and Tyreese.
Get ready. The tragedy meter exploded with 5B/9, leaving the door wide open for more violence / disasters piled up. As mentioned above, I think its clear those who mutilated Noah's group are going to go after Rick's party.
That was T-Dog's idea expressed to Lori & Beth while driving away from the overrun farm in "Beside the Dying Fire". Certainly, the coast could be swarmed with others thinking the same thing / predators / land possession fights, but the cities dumped endless hordes into all urban/suburban areas, which force anyone into a neverending battle / constant risk, as seen in seasons 1,2 and 5.
You would think, but this group seems to run toward the mere idea of a population center.
The prison concept worked for awhile, why not try another? In short time, they would see if it was abandoned or occupied by both walkers & the living? No one should expect potential antagonists to have access to shelter-threatening tanks every week, so it is possible to create prison 2.0, with lessons learned from the first.
I thought that too for a sec, then realized TWD came a long way from season one and two's Token-Dog (Not counting Morgan). At first, as soon as another black guy arrived, the last one died (though with the exception of the one that killed herself, black females featured live). After the preacher arrived, I joked about this running theme, then Bob was lost and now they go and kill Ty.
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Unless they weren't able to book the actress, I kind of found it odd that his girlfriend Karen didn't appear to him as he was dying.
The actress is on another series, and unavailable.
The Karen character was not required, as each of the spirits of the departed were directly tied to people and experiences tied to or affected by his moral decisions, or who shared his view to some degree.
That was the purpose of Tyreese's journey--to settle his strength of morality once and for all (confirmation from the protagonist spirits) against those who embraced ends-justifies-the-means evil (Governor & Martin--and by an extent, others in his own group that slowly moved in that direction). Karen was not a part of that experience.
So, for Tyreese, the good people assuring him, taking him on the journey were--
Bob: Always looking toward hope after an initial negative world view, but ended up suffering thanks to Tyreese not killing Martin. Bob's spirit rejected that, since he was bitten (his mortal injury) at the food pantry, but Martin living meant he was able to help Gareth track the escapees, and ultimately, kidnap and cannibalize Bob's leg.
Mika: Right up to her end, she was like Tyreese--she did not want to kill others, it troubled her to even think of the act, even in theory. It is no wonder Tyreese was so supportive of her mindset while on the road.
Lizzie: In the grand scheme of things, she was disturbed beyond her control or understanding of death and the walkers, so I think her appearing to Tyreese suggests she was granted a reprieve, and is forever tied to her sister. Considering Tyreese's overwhelming desire for peace, that is exactly how he wished to see them.
Beth: Like her father, Beth believed in a higher purpose-- in the idea of good and faith (often expressed to Daryl) still existing / being the way to live. Tyreese was well aware of her beliefs (and his own views moving along those lines), so in watching her die--theoretically to end Dawn's reign of terror by triggering a response (in others) without actually taking Dawn's life* seems like a sacrifice of the highest order to achieve peace. Tyreese did not want to see her die, but likely understood what she was doing, no matter how painful the result.
*Beth knew how to target skulls of moving threats, some 2+ yeas into the ZA, so her stabbing to the shoulder cannot be an accident.
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I re-watched the episode and one of the things I really liked in this episode is we get a small glimpse into the outside world as it collapses via the radio broadcasts that Tyrese could hear.
......"mass cannibalism....." ..... "units not responding...." Did anyone catch anymore of the that dialogue?
......"mass cannibalism....." ..... "units not responding...." Did anyone catch anymore of the that dialogue?
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It kind of reminded me of the TV/Radio chatter we hear in "Night of the living Dead."
Great catch. Now that you mention it, it seems odd that no one ever flips on a TV to see if anything is broadcasting even when they do have power.
Apparently that was Andrew Lincoln's voice on the radio
Yeah, they mentioned that on Talking Dead. They also showed BTS photos of The Governor filming his scenes with the rest of the cast.
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