Chain of Command pt II

[chrinFinity]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

 

[Iamnotspock]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

Not bothered, to be honest. It would have been a cute joke but not really worth the effort, IMO. No one was being fooled into thinking Patrick Stewart was leaving the show.

 

[Tosk]

No. Thanks anyway though.

 

[Ithekro]

Not sure, but it might have been interesting to have Riker do that for Best of Both Worlds Pt. II.

 

[trekshark]

I like the idea, both the Jellico and Riker ones
kind of like how the Enterprise mirror universe episode had an awesome custom opening

 

[EnriqueH]

Nice idea. Sure, why not?

 

[Kevman7987]

I like the idea, both the Jellico and Riker ones
kind of like how the Enterprise mirror universe episode had an awesome custom opening

I always thought the DS9 episodes when the Dominion occupied the station should have done the same thing. Had the opening titles show Dominion ships at the station and the mined wormhole staying closed.

I do understand why they never did those kind of things outside of Enterprise though. It's easier to justify the expense of creating a one-off opening titles when it's just a montage of photographs, old video, and cheap/quick CGI.

 

[sonak]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

Changing the entire opening credits for a one-shot guest character? I don't think so. "Buffy" did it for "Superstar" and ENT did it for the MU episode, but those were more as jokes. Doing it straight in the way you suggest strikes me as an unnecessary gimmick.

 

[ThankYouGeneR]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

hmm.... Interesting concept. Like the Enterprise episodes did, just take over the whole show. I can picture it. I don't feel strongly one way or the other though I have always had a niggling thought that more darkness brought to the Enterprise during his 'reign' wouldn't have been amiss. What you're suggesting might have added that for me.

Nice train of thought there.

 

[ThankYouGeneR]

I like the idea, both the Jellico and Riker ones
kind of like how the Enterprise mirror universe episode had an awesome custom opening

I always thought the DS9 episodes when the Dominion occupied the station should have done the same thing. Had the opening titles show Dominion ships at the station and the mined wormhole staying closed.

I do understand why they never did those kind of things outside of Enterprise though. It's easier to justify the expense of creating a one-off opening titles when it's just a montage of photographs, old video, and cheap/quick CGI.

Oh yeah, the expense. Right.

Good point.

 

[kirkfan]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

Not bothered, to be honest. It would have been a cute joke but not really worth the effort, IMO. No one was being fooled into thinking Patrick Stewart was leaving the show.

I learned that, Best of Both Worlds II, had two possible outcomes. One resulting in Patrick Stewart leaving the show.

 

[kirkfan]

I feel strongly that Jellico should have done the voice over for the opening credits of Chain of Command, pt. II, with possibly a more militaristic monologue than the standard "strange new worlds" to which the contemporary audience was accustomed.

Thoughts?

Changing the entire opening credits for a one-shot guest character? I don't think so. "Buffy" did it for "Superstar" and ENT did it for the MU episode, but those were more as jokes. Doing it straight in the way you suggest strikes me as an unnecessary gimmick.

It's just recording one voice in lieu of another while leaving everything else as it is. It doesn't seem expensive to me.

 

[Makarov]

This is a good idea but I'd want the wording changed a bit...

Space... The final frontier...
These are the voyages of the four shift rotation Enterprise.
Its continuing mission:
To prepare for war...
To take the joy out of everything...
To seek and destroy new life; new cardassians...
To boldly get it done where no one has got it done before!

 

[ThankYouGeneR]

 

[kirkfan]

This is a good idea but I'd want the wording changed a bit...

Space... The final frontier...
These are the voyages of the four shift rotation Enterprise.
Its continuing mission:
To prepare for war...
To take the joy out of everything...
To seek and destroy new life; new cardassians...
To boldly get it done where no one has got it done before!

"And btw, Riker is a stupid shit!"

 

[Darren Mooney]

I like the idea, both the Jellico and Riker ones
kind of like how the Enterprise mirror universe episode had an awesome custom opening

I always thought the DS9 episodes when the Dominion occupied the station should have done the same thing. Had the opening titles show Dominion ships at the station and the mined wormhole staying closed.

I do understand why they never did those kind of things outside of Enterprise though. It's easier to justify the expense of creating a one-off opening titles when it's just a montage of photographs, old video, and cheap/quick CGI.

I can't find a source, but I remember reading that Behr wanted to do it, but - as you suggested - the money wasn't in the budget.

 

[kirkfan]

I like the idea, both the Jellico and Riker ones
kind of like how the Enterprise mirror universe episode had an awesome custom opening

I always thought the DS9 episodes when the Dominion occupied the station should have done the same thing. Had the opening titles show Dominion ships at the station and the mined wormhole staying closed.

I do understand why they never did those kind of things outside of Enterprise though. It's easier to justify the expense of creating a one-off opening titles when it's just a montage of photographs, old video, and cheap/quick CGI.

I can't find a source, but I remember reading that Behr wanted to do it, but - as you suggested - the money wasn't in the budget.

I think for the Best Of Both Worlds II, they should have made Riker say the monologue. People would have wondered what the hell was going on...

 

[Darren Mooney]

I think for the Best Of Both Worlds II, they should have made Riker say the monologue. People would have wondered what the hell was going on...

It's interesting how nobody on the production seems sure about whether there was any real chance of writing Stewart out at the time. I think the consensus is that there wasn't really, but Piller's unpublished book seems to suggest there was at least a possibility.

 

[kirkfan]

I think for the Best Of Both Worlds II, they should have made Riker say the monologue. People would have wondered what the hell was going on...

It's interesting how nobody on the production seems sure about whether there was any real chance of writing Stewart out at the time. I think the consensus is that there wasn't really, but Piller's unpublished book seems to suggest there was at least a possibility.

I think that Picard wanted out, or said he did. But I think it was a tactic to increase his salary, they all do that when they get the occasion. Even the ones that aren't that good try that, sometimes to their detriment.

 

[ThankYouGeneR]

I think that Picard wanted out, or said he did.

Hunh. I am unsuccessfully looking for something to corroborate Stewart might have wanted out at that time. Do you have information you can point me to?

But I think it was a tactic to increase his salary, they all do that when they get the occasion.

So far I am unsuccessful at finding anything to corroborate this too. Any suggestions?