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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

"The Man Who Made Dreams Come True" was silly because it depended on the con man's mark, the king, being utterly stupid and gullible to the point of self-destruction. It doesn't make the villain very impressive when his target has to be such a complete pushover.
Good lord, that was just ludicrous. "Now that you've signed over the throne to me, I want you to go electrocute yourself. Trust me." Real subtle con there.

Not to mention that the scam rested on the flimsy premise that the king could just sign a piece of paper to make anyone his successor. I doubt it works like that in many countries.

And how did the Dreamer make that document appear right in front of the audience? "Mirrors" I suppose, but it looked like a common camera edit to me.

And who do you call if your king's about to electrocute himself? The police? The fire department? The whitecoats? No, Clark Kent!

The premise of Clark being able to contact Superman gets taken to the silly extreme here. It seems that any Joe Schmoe can walk into Clark's office and get Superman to make an appearance. If I'd been the con man, I might have given myself a bit more time than an hour...what if Clark hadn't been in the office, or hadn't been able to supposedly summon Superman on such short notice?

And why does Clark send Lois to pretend to be customer? Seems like he could have gotten to the bottom of things faster by going himself. And Lois being taken captive, particularly so early on, doesn't seem to serve any purpose in the story.

At least Lois was able to realistically talk through the gag...but why does Clark change to Superman just to untie her?

The only points of interest were a couple of familiar faces -- Cyril Delevanti as the superstitious king and Sgt. Schultz himself, John Banner, as the king's bodyguard.
You neglected to mention the return of...Keith Richards! Apparently he was "The Dreamer".
 
"Tin Hero" was pretty dumb. Perry White berates Jimmy for not being a good reporter by bringing the guy in to tell his story, but then when the guy does tell his story, Perry just hires him on the spot without bothering to verify any of his claims as any competent reporter would do.

Man, Christopher, you are pretty critical of some episodes!

Come on, you know TAoS was calculated to be a broad, simple series to get from story point A to Z, with the usual payoff--the era when most kidvid was astoundingly "one - two" in their bare bones morality plays / thrills.

TAoS is good for a certain amount of nostalgia (season 1 above the rest), but most episodes are so simple, that even bad 1960s "comedy-adventure cartoons" (ex. The Mighty Heroes) seemed like innovations in drama by comparison.
 
"Disappearing Lois"
Hey, this time it really was Lefty and the Boss! And the plot involved Lois convincing Lefty that he should be the Boss! I thought that part was kind of entertaining in a goofy sitcom sort of way.

Arranging her own mysterious disappearance and making Clark fear for her safety just so she could scoop him on a story? That's horrible! These characters have a history of trying to trick each other out of stories, but this crosses a line. And it didn't even turn out being particularly relevant to the story.
It seemed like an awful lot of trouble just to distract Clark a little. And it really shouldn't have tripped him up as much as it did. So he wasn't sure where she lived, it's not like she somehow erased all trace of her existence.

Also, how many times has Clark gotten shot in front of everybody on this show? What with him looking just like Superman and Lois already suspecting, you'd think that his surviving so many shooting incidents with only a flimsy excuse would clinch things for her.

Also, this is another episode that references Clark having been around the Planet for years before the series began...in this case, at least seven years before the episode. Yet on the other hand, they try to pull off that Lois is 26...!
 
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"Money to Burn"

This time Perry gets to play Lois and Jimmy...waltz into the crooks' domain, let them know you're on to them, get easily caught snooping into their affairs, and get taken prisoner.

The Planet stores its payroll in some warehouse? And stockholder or no, why is the editor so involved with the company's money?

It seems odd that crooks' entire gig involves trying to operate in buildings that should be swarming with firemen. They must be really smart--they're taking advantage of the show's low budget! And did I miss something? Why was the one crook wearing a hearing aid only while they were on the job? He didn't seem to be in contact with anyone while he was working.

This episode, Lois does one better than Uhura a decade before Trek...she gets to take over from Clark as substitute Chief!

Perry's that type-A irritable and he doesn't even drink coffee...?


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"Close Shave"

This one seemed a bit sloppily written/executed. What was the deal with the barber anyway? Was he superhuman, a natural hypnotist, or just a gifted motivational speaker? And nothing was made of his gift once he got his friend to turn over new leaf. Also, it seems like this is supposed to be Jimmy's regular barber, but this is the first time that his talent has come to light?

That crook may have made the wrong choice...by the time he gets out of jail, there may not be such a demand for crew-cuts....

There's a really bad audio insert when Superman makes one of the crooks drop his gun with his X-ray vision.
 
Gonna be a full night for me now, since I'm adding Wonder Woman to my roster. But first, Superman:

"Money to Burn" was the first strong episode of the season. The villains had a clever scheme for pulling off seemingly impossible robberies (though it would've been more plausible if they'd had an accomplice setting the fires rather than just relying on luck), and it led to a significant peril for Perry White, when he was accused of embezzlement because of it. It was nice seeing Clark piece together the clues (even if they were pretty obvious), and I loved the way Superman darted from door to window and back to trap the felons at the end. I think that's the first time we've seen a real super-speed gag in the show, even if we didn't actually see him move.

The one weak point was his firefighting in the first act. Why couldn't the firemen use the hose? And Superman's super-breath has been established in the show by this point, so why didn't he use that?

"Close Shave" was kind of a weird one. A barber with the magic power to make people do things by believing in them? I guess it's sort of a hypnotic-voice superpower, sort of like the Purple Man, but used for good. Still, it's weird. And how come the barber never discovered he had this power until Jimmy pointed it out?

Also, it was really corny how Rick's henchmen just conveniently jumped on the going-straight bandwagon when he did. But I did like the bit where Superman had to cool off his hands after muffling an explosion with them. Physics!


On to Batman, which brings us the screen debut of the Mad Hatter in "The Thirteenth Hat"/"Batman Stands Pat." Notably, it's the first time than an established comics villain is referred to in the show by his established real name, with the characters frequently referring to the Hatter as Jervis Tetch -- quite a rarity in this show. The only other villains so far whose real names were used were Mr. Freeze (Dr. Schivel) and Eivol Ekdal, and maybe Zelda the Great if that's her real first name. (Ekdal was a comics character, but he didn't use a nickname the way the other villains did, so he doesn't count.)

It's amusing how everyone is suddenly so preoccupied with hats, as if it were somehow unusual for a person to be kidnapped along with the hat they were wearing. And there just happens to be an exhibit of famous presidential hats for Tetch to covet? You'd think that Gotham's museums would eventually learn never to hold any exhibits pertaining to things like hats, jokes, riddles, cats, or umbrellas.

And we're still getting that thing where characters are using "Boy Wonder" as if it were Robin's actual superhero name. That's strange.

Also kind of surprising to be shown a really elaborate deathtrap in the first half and then have the cliffhanger revolve around a spur-of-the-moment peril. And man, that Lisa is a hardcore moll, really excited by Tetch's descriptions of the ghastly things his machine would do to human flesh. That was a creepy scene.


From '50s Superman to '60s Batman to '70s Wonder Woman! And it's "Fausta, the Nazi Wonder Woman," featuring Mission: Impossible's Lynda Day George. There's some nice WWII-era texture here, with references to things like blood drives and bond rallies and gas coupons. But some weird stuff too, like the whole "Lure Wonder Woman out with a masked impostor" business. Why did the real Wonder Woman go along and wear a mask? Where did she get the matching mask?

And it's made clear that WW's weakness in this show is different than in the comics. Rather than being bound by a man, she's made helpless by the removal of her belt. And she's vulnerable to chloroform -- and her lasso works on her, which I wasn't expecting. All of which adds up to let Steve be more than a hostage for once, although he started out and ended up as one. I wonder how many times he (and his lookalike son in later seasons) will get kidnapped over the course of the series. Probably about as often as Lois and Jimmy did.

I kind of sympathized with Fausta, this ultracompetent female operative whose insights were constantly dismissed by a sexist, narrow-minded authority figure. Reminds me of Agent Carter. And it let Wonder Woman use the power of feminism to win her over. As I said before, it's interesting that the show embraces the emphatic feminism of the original comics, given how much it was downplayed in the comics after Marston left. But I guess it had become part of the comic again by the '70s, on and off.

Man, General Blankenship runs a really loose operation, doesn't he? Lots of superheroes have trouble arranging to get away from their work commitments or their coworkers' scrutiny, but Blankenship is practically shoving people out the door so they can go on missions behind his back.
 
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And did I miss something? Why was the one crook wearing a hearing aid only while they were on the job? He didn't seem to be in contact with anyone while he was working.

He used the hearing aid as a safecracking tool, to hear the tumblers. There was a line about the other guy modifying it to be more sensitive. And since it was rather big, he had to pretend to wear it as a hearing aid before the heist, for camouflage.


This episode, Lois does one better than Uhura a decade before Trek...she gets to take over from Clark as substitute Chief!

Yeah, that struck me too. Although that's only because the Planet only has four employees and Jimmy wasn't there.


Perry's that type-A irritable and he doesn't even drink coffee...?

He probably had to give it up because of his stress levels. On radio, he was constantly on the brink of a heart attack, or at least talked as though he were.

I noted, though, that lately (particularly in "Close Shave") John Hamilton has been giving a more subdued performance. It's a reminder that he was 70 years old at this point and just a year or so from the end of his life.


What was the deal with the barber anyway? Was he superhuman, a natural hypnotist, or just a gifted motivational speaker? And nothing was made of his gift once he got his friend to turn over new leaf.

Come to think of it, I liked the way that, after establishing that Tony could change people's minds with his voice, he ended up changing Rick's mind by what he didn't say, by just staring silently at his old friend. That was a nice touch.
 
Close Shave was just weird. This is the second time now, after the guy who was effected by Kryptonite, where we've had someone with a special power that was not explained. Did they just assume people would just accept it? I wouldn't think it would have been that hard to have just a quick explanation to both episodes.

I definitely prefer the '70s set Wonder Woman episodes to the WWII ones. For one thing, I swear the writing and acting seemed to get better, and we got more interesting stories than just another Nazi plot.
 
^Well, I haven't gotten to the '70s Wonder Woman episodes yet, but I'm liking the WWII episodes so far.

One thing I wasn't quite expecting, but probably should've been, is that so far WW seems to be the kind of series where the superhero spends more time in superhero mode than in civilian mode, like Batman, rather than the more common TV pattern of staying mostly in civilian mode and only donning the costume (or losing most of the costume, in the case of The Incredible Hulk) a couple of times per episode. But it makes sense that they'd rather show off Lynda Carter in a star-spangled bathing suit than keep her in frumpy Diana Prince mode (although she's actually pretty cute as Diana). And its showrunner was a Batman veteran, which could be a factor.
 
I hadn't been watching very closely, but I think that pattern changes by the time they get to the 70s...it becomes more "Diana Prince, government agent", who winds up changing to WW only when it becomes dramatically appropriate.
 
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Not sure, but I think WW was always a show where she was in costume more, even in the "present-day" episodes-- or at least they would both open and close the show with the hero in costume.

So it turns out that I did know Weird Woman after all (well, to be honest, I've known a few)-- it's one of the movies on the Inner Sanctum DVD set.
 
Wonder Woman season one tonight.

I held off on this until I could get the pilot movie from Netflix. It's actually a surprisingly faithful adaptation of the first couple of Wonder Woman comics. The Paradise Island sequence follows her debut in All-Star Comics #8 quite closely, and the following stuff in the US shares the broad outlines of the story's continuation in Sensation Comics #1, right down to having Diana pose as a nurse before becoming Steve Trevor's assistant (although they wisely dropped the part about her just happening to run into a real Nurse Diana Prince who looked just like her and bribing her into letting Wonder Woman take her place).

And it's a pretty effective pilot aside from that. Lynda Carter is, let's face it, a mediocre actress, but that kinda worked for Wonder Woman's guileless and wholesome personality. And since I was seven when this show began, I don't think I ever really appreciated just how beautiful she was. She certainly has a radiant smile, and fantastic legs (though not quite as fantastic as Joanna Cameron/Isis). And whaddaya know, she really did wear satin tights!

I would disagree -- Lynda Carter is a good actress (albeit a newbie then...a "cub" actor if you will :techman:) -- she believably projects goodness/kindness and strong smarts at the same time. It's the writing that's mediocre, particularly the dialogue,and the cheezy jokes that remind us that people don't know Diana is WOnder WOman, despite the hint.

I know we haven't had much to compare Carter by...but i think she has solidly made herself the measure by which we judge future Wonder Women.
 
Sorry, no -- Lynda Carter was in Sky High as the principal of the superhero school, cast as an homage to her Wonder Woman role, and even decades later, her acting ability hadn't improved, and if anything had gotten worse.

Don't get me wrong, she certainly had the charisma and warmth and looks for the role; but in terms of actual acting ability she strikes me as more Lee Majors than Lindsay Wagner, more Burt Ward than Adam West.
 
"The Phony Alibi"

OK, I just got the title.... :brickwall: :lol:

Holy let's reuse he sequence of Superman stopping the car from a couple of episodes ago!

So they're kinda sorta doing the Atom's telephone gimmick a few years before that version of the character came along. In this version, it seems like it would make a lot more sense if there were a chamber on the opposite end, though that wouldn't be nearly as convenient for the crooks.

This schtick of benevolent scientists inventing things that get put to corrupt use by crooks gets kind of old...it's too bad they didn't just have a regular scientist who was also a crook...why, he could be Superman's arch-foe....

The context in which Clark said that San Francisco was hours away made it seem like he meant by car in that instance. I've been wondering if the intent of the show was for Metropolis to be analogous to L.A. rather than New York. This would seem to point in that direction (along with other features like cliffside roads just out of town).

That phone call to Alaska sure traveled slowly...slow enough for the Professor to wake up from his nap, and Clark to come over, figure things out, and intercept it as Superman. Lois and Jimmy must have been stuck in the pattern buffer....


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"The Prince Albert Coat"

Sounds like the title of a Seinfeld episode--What's the plot? A scheme to sell people's old clothes for profit? Sounds like the plot of a Seinfeld episode. Throw in the old man saving Confederate money thinking it still had value...sounds like something Kramer might do....

That sounded like Robert Shayne as the radio announcer.

Gee whiz, a dog whistle....Better bring that along, kid...considering who you're traveling with, it's likely to come in handy.

Saving a town from a dam bursting is exactly the sort of Superman feat that the show should have had more of...except that in this case, the "dam" looked like a TV-scale castle gate. I know the show was on a budget, but that was dam cheap.

The actor was wearing the coat and he couldn't tell that it was laden with something?

The thug knocking his partner out and then fainting...that definitely counts as one ding on the "thug knocks himself out" counter, but might be seen to count for two in spirit....


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ETA: Hey, look, it's Danny Bonaduce as a nunchuk-weilding gang leader on ChiPs. Yes, I'd like to order an Estrada-Burger with extra cheese....


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ETA: And who's that Korean War soldier being treated by the 4077? Patrick Swayze!
 
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I'm thinking the admins should break out TAoS into its own thread. Especially since it's strip syndicated now.
 
I'm thinking the admins should break out TAoS into its own thread. Especially since it's strip syndicated now.

Except it's only got nine days left before it runs out of episodes. We've already covered 85% of the series in this thread, so why not just finish out the run?
 
On that note, I think the episode with the Kryptonite in the robot is coming up a week from tonight. Who was looking for that one, RJDiogenes?
 
Yes, it was me, thank you! I'll keep an eye on it so I can record it. I usually get off work in time to catch the last half of the second episode, at best.

Finally, I'll be able to confront my childhood trauma! :rommie:
 
"The Phony Alibi"
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So they're kinda sorta doing the Atom's telephone gimmick a few years before that version of the character came along. In this version, it seems like it would make a lot more sense if there were a chamber on the opposite end, though that wouldn't be nearly as convenient for the crooks.

I dunno, it kinda makes sense, within its own nonsensical parameters. Presumably being "de-atmosphere-ized" or whatever is an unnatural state, and the body would tend to revert to normal density automatically on exposure to air. So the chamber would be needed to remove the air, but the body would naturally restore itself once it came out the other end. Sorta like a squeezed sponge when you let it go.


This schtick of benevolent scientists inventing things that get put to corrupt use by crooks gets kind of old...it's too bad they didn't just have a regular scientist who was also a crook...why, he could be Superman's arch-foe....
Yeah, but the crooks on this show are always shifty-looking people with lower-class accents and not much edgamacation. Surely they'd never get accepted into a scientific institute, because you can tell they're crooks just by looking at them. ;) Lois certainly could with the hoods in the next episode.

I dunno, maybe there was some kind of note from the studio about not portraying the sciences in a bad light, lest children be discouraged from pursuing technical careers. Although, wait, that doesn't really work, since the dimwitted old mad scientists in this show aren't exactly aspirational figures. So I dunno. I agree that I'm getting a little sick of the eccentric scientists.

The radio series had a number of evil scientists, usually with Nazi affiliations. But it also had plenty of friendly absent-minded geniuses whose inventions caused trouble, though generally more by accident than by criminal intervention.


The context in which Clark said that San Francisco was hours away made it seem like he meant by car in that instance. I've been wondering if the intent of the show was for Metropolis to be analogous to L.A. rather than New York. This would seem to point in that direction (along with other features like cliffside roads just out of town).
Well, as I've mentioned before, the Daily Planet building is LA City Hall.

Metropolis has usually been portrayed as being in or near New York, going as far back as the second issue of Superman's solo title in 1939; one of the Fleischer cartoons explicitly put it on Manhattan Island. It's sometimes been treated as New York City by another name, not only in the Christopher Reeve movies, but as far back as a 1950 comics issue which mentioned the Statue of Liberty being in Metropolis Harbor. Some later comics sources put it in Delaware. But it's occasionally been placed elsewhere, for instance in Smallville, where it was placed in Kansas so as to be adjacent to the title locale.


That phone call to Alaska sure traveled slowly...slow enough for the Professor to wake up from his nap, and Clark to come over, figure things out, and intercept it as Superman. Lois and Jimmy must have been stuck in the pattern buffer....
Yeah, that was kind of sloppy. The whole premise of the episode was that the tele(phone)portation was near-instantaneous, allowing for perfect alibis; but Lois and Jimmy had been traveling for at least two hours (since Pepperwinkle's nap was from 3 to 5) and yet were still within local bus range, evidently.

I was wondering if there was some way for the crooks to send them somewhere that would kill them. I guess there aren't a lot of phones placed in unsurvivable locations. But what if you dialed a disconnected number? Would they not be transmitted at all, or would they get stuck in limbo?



"The Prince Albert Coat"
Another one where Superman's foes are really penny-ante operators, hardly worth his attention. We got a bit of Superman-worthy action with the dam disaster, but they didn't have the budget to make it all that impressive.


Throw in the old man saving Confederate money thinking it still had value...
Yeah, that's kind of weird. Let's run some numbers... This was a 1957 episode, and the Confederacy was dissolved in 1865. So that money had been worthless for 92 years. And yet the great-grandfather said that he himself, not his father, had owned that coat and placed his life savings in its lining. Meaning he must have done so as an adult, late enough in life to have accumulated $10,000 dollars. How could he have saved up 10 grand in Confederate money decades after the Confederacy dissolved? Or are we supposed to believe he was 130 years old or more? (The actor, Raymond Hatton, wasn't even born until 1887.) For that matter, if Confederate currency was only valid for 4-5 years, how high an income would he have needed to save up that much money? That would've been a fortune back then.


Gee whiz, a dog whistle....Better bring that along, kid...considering who you're traveling with, it's likely to come in handy.
Hard to believe that Jimmy didn't know what a dog whistle was. But as soon as they had the kid explain it, it was obvious that he'd end up using it to summon Superman.

And I love it how Superman willfully inflicts unnecessary property damage just because he finds it spectacular. I guess it's true what they say!


The actor was wearing the coat and he couldn't tell that it was laden with something?
I wondered that too, but it turned out that there wasn't that large a wad of bills (must've been in large denominations), and it is possible to lose track of things in the lining of a heavy coat, as I've found from time to time.
 
Yeah, that's kind of weird. Let's run some numbers... This was a 1957 episode, and the Confederacy was dissolved in 1865. So that money had been worthless for 92 years. And yet the great-grandfather said that he himself, not his father, had owned that coat and placed his life savings in its lining. Meaning he must have done so as an adult, late enough in life to have accumulated $10,000 dollars. How could he have saved up 10 grand in Confederate money decades after the Confederacy dissolved? Or are we supposed to believe he was 130 years old or more? (The actor, Raymond Hatton, wasn't even born until 1887.) For that matter, if Confederate currency was only valid for 4-5 years, how high an income would he have needed to save up that much money? That would've been a fortune back then.

This discussion is reminding me of the Land of the Lost episode "Downstream". The family meets Jefferson Davis Collie III, a Confederate artilleryman. The episode seems confused as to how much time has passed for Collie. Among other things, it's obviously implied he's named for the CSA President — but there's no way he could be named after the guy and also old enough to fight in the same war. Plus he's the third in his line. JD Collie #1 would have been born long before the original Jefferson Davis was.

Maybe JD Collie III is from a time several generations after the Civil War — but then he should know who won.

Or maybe "Jefferson Davis" was just a very common name in those days and it's a coincidence that he shares the President's name.

Or JD Collie III is from an alternate timeline where the Civil War is still going on generations later. That's a cop-out, but at least it would explain it.
 
^He should get together with Boss J.D. Hogg of Hazzard County. They could start a club of people who are named after both Jefferson Davis and a quadrupedal mammal.
 
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