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Adam Baldwin and Conventions

Could you please tell me where I defended the rage filled rants and hatred spewed at Sarkeesian over the Internet?

Recycling defamatory lies makes you part of the rage filled rants and hatred. If you don't like the effect that's having on your credibility (and you shouldn't), you should change your behaviour.
 
Your posts are disgusting, filled with lies, and misogyny. From an outside perspective, they are also desperate, disconnected from reality, and downright hateful. From here, you do not appear balanced or reasonable. It's sickening, to be honest.

Says the person who thinks they can profess judgement on others based on a handful of Internet posts! :lol:

Point out where I am being a misogynist? No, disagreeing with you does not equal misogyny. In case you don't have access to a dictionary:

Definition of MISOGYNY

: a hatred of women

Nowhere in there is there "disagreeing with a woman", "making fun of a woman", or "making a woman feel unconformable".

Could we at least agree to stop using misogony as code for "someone who dares disagree with me".

Recycling defamatory lies makes you part of the rage filled rants and hatred.
Bullshit.

If you don't like the effect that's having on your credibility (and you shouldn't), you should change your behaviour.
I've not exhibited any behavior worth getting up in arms about, so no. As for my credibility here, why should I care?
 
And you've acted like a vitriolic harpy plenty of times. We all have our faults.

Vitriolic Harpy would make a good band name, but not so much a good forum comment. It's a heated subject so there's going to be some shade thrown back and forth, but this crosses the line from criticisms of argument and behavior to pure insults. Infraction for flaming. Comments to PM.
 
Could we at least agree to stop using misogony as code for "someone who dares disagree with me".

And you can stop playing the free-speech martyr. You have knowingly repeated defamatory lies that were and are part of a campaign of harassment and vitriolic hatred against a group of women, Quinn and Sarkeesian included. You don't get to do that and then turn around and pretend you're not part of the hate.
 
If anyone is emotionally invested, it's you. Because if you're trying to prove a point this isn't just about attacking women, you are not doing yourself any favors by obsessing over a woman.

Keep telling yourself that.

I am more interested in Sarkeesian than obsessed, the same way I'd be interested in any other scam artist who manages to convince people to send them money while offering a worthless product - and even then, only delivering on half the promised amount of product.
Whether or not it's worthless is (of course) a subjective question, but people are willing to contribute toward its production, and contribute in excess of the amount requested. I'd say that's an indication that it's not seen as worthless by everyone.

As far as delivering on half the promised amount of product goes: it's an ongoing series, produced in installments, with more content yet to come:

"In addition to producing new episodes of Tropes vs. Women in Video Games, Feminist Frequency is planning to begin two new video series..."
 
And you can stop playing the free-speech martyr. You have knowingly repeated defamatory lies that were and are part of a campaign of harassment and vitriolic hatred against a group of women, Quinn and Sarkeesian included. You don't get to do that and then turn around and pretend you're not part of the hate.

Well, no. Hate is an emotion. I feel no hatred toward any of these people, and think any and all harassment they received needs to be investigated and punished in the swiftest manner possible.

My saying "gamergate is apparently about..." makes me no more a part of the hatred than Google is part of the hatred because it allows people to find inflammatory articles and blogs.

Whether or not it's worthless is (of course) a subjective question, but people are willing to contribute toward its production, and contribute in excess of the amount requested. I'd say that's an indication that it's not seen as worthless by everyone.
Exactly. Saying "worthless" is my opinion, clearly. People certainly value what she has to say, and are willing to pay her for it. Whether she offers anything substantive or worthy of thought or discussion is another matter entirely, and from what I have seen so far, the odds aren't looking too good. I hope people get their money's worth, though.
 
'i may just have said a bunch of easily refuted hateful lies, but i'm not part of the hate.'

yeah. ok.
 
Well, no. Hate is an emotion. I feel no hatred toward any of these people, and think any and all harassment they received needs to be investigated and punished in the swiftest manner possible.

This does not fit with your insistence on unrepentantly trucking in falsehoods which were created and disseminated by the harassers, and are part and parcel of the harassment. (And you can forget about trying to pretend that you were just describing the falsehoods without subscribing to them. Your posts are right there.)
 
'i may just have said a bunch of easily refuted hateful lies, but i'm not part of the hate.'

yeah. ok.
So if I said "apparently the Nazis hated the Jews because they thought the Jews were ethnically and genetically inferior" makes me compliant with the Nazis.

Gotcha!

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but you weren't going 'apparently...' your comments, to continue your metaphor, were 'this is why the jews are bad'. repeatedly.

then completely ignoring everyone when they showed you proof to the contrary.
 
So if I said "apparently the Nazis hated the Jews because they thought the Jews were ethnically and genetically inferior" makes me compliant with the Nazis.

That's not how you framed your comments. You did not say
'Gamergaters apparently claim x' you said:

No. She apparently was cheating on the guy with said journalist, who during the time they were sleeping together wrote a favorable review of the game, and pushed the game in several articles

You were not expressing the views of others, you were expressing your own views and sprinkling in comments that are easily refutable.
So while your personal views are, at the very least, influenced by those with improper motives, the fact that you are repeating things PROVEN to be untrue and using them as a basis for your personal opinion calls into question the integrity of your argument. The fact that you have repeatedly maintained an untenable position based on easily refutable arguments and colored by an inexplicable refusal to modify ANY of your thought processes is really inexcusable. If you wish to be wrong, why not be silent?
 
Not much I can add. Take some time for introspection TBS, consider the comments here.

Cute kitty. I love cats.
 
Nathan Grayson, the Kotaku writer in question gave Quinn plenty of positive press. That is irrefutable.
Ripetita iuvant

GamerGate's original claims are that Zoe Quinn slept around for coverage favors. This was debunked literally months ago. And yet it persists.

Other bullshit about Zoe Quinn

  • Zoe Quinn was and still is today regularly accused of doxxing herself.
  • Zoe Quinn was and still is today accused of faking death, rape, and other threats.
  • Zoe Quinn doesn't actually sell the game she's accused of sleeping around to get coverage of. It's a free game about Depression, called Depression Quest, created to help others learn to live and deal with the disease. She does take donations, and was accused of lying about giving those donations to charity. However, the charity confirmed the donations were actually received
  • When accusations of those lies first arose, GamerGate started donating to that charity in her place. After the charity confirmed receiving the donations, GamerGate started harassing the charity and threatening it with legal action because they claim they "didn't disclose publicly" they had received donations from her (even though that is not actuall illegal). This is a charity is made up of volunteers and a part-time paid intern, helping people deal with depression
  • Zoe Quinn is frequently accused of winning an award (instead of Papers Please) for Depression Quest because she slept with someone. In actuality, her game didn't receive an award, but just an honorable mention. Papers Please did indeed win the award. No evidence backs up the claim she slept with someone to get the....honorable mention.
  • Zoe Quinn was accused to have "deliberately sabotaged, DDOSed, doxxed, and shut down" TFYC ("The Fine Young Capitalists") because they were "competition" for Rebel Game Jam. The reality is that it's yet another bunch of bullshit accusations against her.
 
^ Exactly, but gamergate sites keep pushing that bullshit, and people like TBS keep eating it up.
 
GamerGators are like the kooky conservatives, they get all their info from blogs and new sources that only back up their worldview. Any outside information is dismissed because it doesn't come from within their bubble.

They were harassing some YouTuber and claiming that his wife wasn't real, then started stalking his brother demanding proof that his sister-in-law existed through video or photos. So it's all about ethical journalism and not an angry mob that chases anyone who shows a hint of disapproval at their narrow-minded beliefs.
 
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