It's not really a systemic problem if literally every team in the league doctors their balls (and I would bet money that they do). If the league cared about it, they'd just use the K-balls for the entire game.
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It's not really a systemic problem if literally every team in the league doctors their balls (and I would bet money that they do). If the league cared about it, they'd just use the K-balls for the entire game.
It's not a problem. It never has been. And what I find most troubling is how much coverage "legitimate" TV news is committing to this. I didn't think the modern news could ever get any lower.
It has.
With all the shit going on in the world, they have to devote time to Tom Brady's balls.
It has.
With all the shit going on in the world, they have to devote time to Tom Brady's balls.
Yea, "problem" is too strong a word. Still systemic, in that it seems the attitude is geared toward making the refs spot the personalized footballs. Kind of like the attitude of tugging on a wideout's shirt in the hope that the ref is looking elsewhere.
I terms of seriousness, it ranks right there with a driving couple mph over the limit.
I will say that I really love that Goodell has been forced more and more to perform Dadaist corporate kabuki theater this year. It's like God is trolling him in increasingly obvious ways.
Like, he start off mishandling legit crises:
- Settles a huge concussion lawsuit, has to deal with a scathing new expose.
- Ray Rice knocks out his wife and everybody bungles the response.
Then they start getting weirder. Still actual issues, but definitely weird.
- 50 million fantasy football dudes go apeshit when Josh Gordon isn't reinstated under the new drug policy.
- Adrian Peterson did what to a child's scrotum?
Then things go full Kafka.
- Colin Kaepernick is fined nearly the same amount for wearing incorrectly branded headphones as when he called a defensive end a rather impolite term for a person of color.
- Travis Kelce jacks off at a ref.
- Nobody can get Marshawn Lynch to stop grabbing his nuts.
- Pats get to the playoffs, NFL is forced to concede that Shane Vereen is also a right tackle.
- The weeks leading up to the Super Bowl are consumed with a massive controversy about ball shrinkage. Media hops on board to write ALL THE PUNS. Former quarterbacks come out of the woodworks to describe how they, too, cheated like crazy.
This is either going to end like a Black Mirror episode or Goodell going all Budd Dwyer, isn't it?
Like, he start off mishandling legit crises:
- Settles a huge concussion lawsuit, has to deal with a scathing new expose.
- Ray Rice knocks out his wife and everybody bungles the response.
Then they start getting weirder. Still actual issues, but definitely weird.
- 50 million fantasy football dudes go apeshit when Josh Gordon isn't reinstated under the new drug policy.
- Adrian Peterson did what to a child's scrotum?
Then things go full Kafka.
- Colin Kaepernick is fined nearly the same amount for wearing incorrectly branded headphones as when he called a defensive end a rather impolite term for a person of color.
- Travis Kelce jacks off at a ref.
- Nobody can get Marshawn Lynch to stop grabbing his nuts.
- Pats get to the playoffs, NFL is forced to concede that Shane Vereen is also a right tackle.
- The weeks leading up to the Super Bowl are consumed with a massive controversy about ball shrinkage. Media hops on board to write ALL THE PUNS. Former quarterbacks come out of the woodworks to describe how they, too, cheated like crazy.
This is either going to end like a Black Mirror episode or Goodell going all Budd Dwyer, isn't it?
Considering the amount of attention the story is getting in this thread alone, it sounds to me like TV news has a pretty decent handle on what people find interesting prior to the SB.
People are latching onto anything even remotely interesting in the void between the conference championships and the Super Bowl?
I am shocked, shocked.
(But it is astounding that this is making national news and was NBC's lead story the other night. Terrell Suggs is known to have dragged his wife by her hair from a moving car, threatened to pour bleach on his son, and has multiple firearms violations, and he's a six-time Pro Bowler. Where's the news coverage of that?)
I mean, c'mon. Michael Sam being gay caught weeks of news coverage; what people find interesting is not in any way remotely connected to what is actually relevant.
No, but the news reporting on things people are interested in hearing about is not new or necessarily problematic.
Honestly, that press conference yesterday brought-out the 12-year-old in me. With Brady talking about his perfect balls and not wanting anyone else to touch them. SNL is going to have a field-day with this.
But this whole scandal is "stupid." If they were under-inflating the balls then why not just come out and say it? What's the worse that can happen? A slight sanction? Losing a draft pick? Admit it and take your licks.
But this whole scandal is "stupid." If they were under-inflating the balls then why not just come out and say it? What's the worse that can happen? A slight sanction? Losing a draft pick? Admit it and take your licks.
Let's be honest, though: Answering the question of "Is Tom Brady a cheater?" with "I don't believe so" is a comically inept answer from Brady and does not exactly make him look good.
At least they won't have to call their doctor, cause their balls don't last anywhere near 4 hours.
Damn, my scumbag Ravens are at it again. Terrence Cody let the air out of some animal, now he's looking for work. At least he won't have to suffer the embarrassment of a galaxy sized asterisk hung on his career accomplishments.
At least they won't have to call their doctor, cause their balls don't last anywhere near 4 hours.
Damn, my scumbag Ravens are at it again. Terrence Cody let the air out of some animal, now he's looking for work. At least he won't have to suffer the embarrassment of a galaxy sized asterisk hung on his career accomplishments.
Hey if you want to compare animal cruelty to some under inflated footballs, thats your problem.
He should have asked the guy that asked that question...
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
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But that's a loaded question. The question asked isn't a loaded question and could easily have been answered no. Now I personally would normally think that question is a waste of time because why wouldn't he answer no (although, weirdly enough, he didn't).
I just didn't buy Brady's explanation at all. It was riddled with holes and a nonchalance that I found off-putting. I'm wondering if it would not have been more believable to say, "It was a timing issue. We didn't think the balls had been inspected yet and it turned out that they had been. Our bad." IDK. Either way, this is a senseless distraction, and when Brady came out like he did, arrogant and nonchalant, he didn't think people would just start digging even more? A lot of the people in the press want it for the narrative!
Belichick now implies that the atmospheric conditions deflated the balls, or at least that's what I took from it. So . . . Why did it not affect the other balls, why did it affect those balls uniformly, and what was special about it in this case?
Belichick now implies that the atmospheric conditions deflated the balls, or at least that's what I took from it. So . . . Why did it not affect the other balls, why did it affect those balls uniformly, and what was special about it in this case?
It is a loaded question. All athletes "cheat". Every offensive lineman holds etc. If he says no and something ever comes out, now he's a liar. It blows up.... we all know the drill. When asked that, even if it's true in some way, does anyone expect him to say "yes"? It's just a jerk question.
My cut on this thing? Brady didn't deflate any ball and most likely didn't tell anyone to do it. Some ball boy knows what Tom likes and let some air out. Tom doesn't want to cost that guy his job.
How was Brady arrogant in that press conference? He was asked every stupid question imaginable and answered all of them.
And that Belichick press conference today was performance art...it was just beautiful. He essentially just told the whole media world to F off. At this point it's all on the NFL to provide evidence, which they haven't done to this point at all. I believe the team at this point, because say what you want about spygate, but after that whole situation came out Belichick owned up to it right away.
The fact that the team has to deal with this crap going to the Superbowl is infuriating. Get your shit together NFL. Accuse them of something, or come out publicly and say that they didn't do a damn thing outside the regs.
Hell at this point Robert Kraft should bring every magazine and media outlet who have called the Patriots cheaters, and called for them to be taken out of the Superbowl, (with no evidence mind you) to court.
Well, I think there's a difference between a hold in a game and premeditated tampering with the equipment (I'm not saying Tom Brady did that, I'm saying that it's not the same thing and I'm skeptical that someone would call someone a liar if that's what they actually did).
But let's assume you're right. Let's assume that all that conduct, even in-game penalties, constitute cheating. And let's agree that all athletes cheat. In what ways is Tom Brady a cheater, in your opinion?
You are absolutely right.
What should have happened was that at half-time the officials should have walked out on the field and said the game has been forfeited by the Patriots, the Colts are going to the Superbowl. That is when an investigation could get started on who was responsible (even if it turns out to be the lowest paid member of their staff) without the distraction of preparing for a game which they shouldn't be taking part in. The who did/knew what part shouldn't be the first part, it should be secondary to the team being eliminated from the playoffs.
If we want to stop cheating, make it so no team would want to cheat... at any level. Monetary fines for the ultra rich are pointless, but pull then from the Superbowl and you'll start seeing them cry uncle.
As Tom said: Get your shit together NFL.
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