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And Star Trek V failed because...

he looked too old by the time View to a Kill came out.
No argument there--easily his weakest outing (and even he says so), and one of my two or three least favorite films in the entire series.

On the balance, he also gave us what I consider to be the best whole-package Bond film, The Spy Who Loved Me.
 
The Spy Who Loved Me is in my opinion, the best Bond movie. It has the best theme tune, best villain in Jaws, best gadget and car, nicely judged humor, great locations, memorable moments, it's a great, fun movie.
 
The interesting thing about TSWLM is that the plot is pretty much a beat-for-beat remake of You Only Live Twice...but nobody cares because they did it even better. Throw in SPECTRE (Stromberg was originally conceived as Blofeld before it was firmly established that they no longer had the right to use him), a volcano base, and a John Barry instrumental score, and TSWLM would have been absolutely perfect.

I say instrumental because I agree that "Nobody Does It Better" is the perfect Bond title song...and I'm saying that as a major Paul McCartney fan...!
 
The whole "God" thing had to go either one of two ways: the film's way ("Maybe he's not out there, Bones. Maybe he's right here - in the heart"… with oboe playing in the background, naturally) . . .

LOL, yeah that pretty much sums it up.
 
Reynolds turned down the role, as did Clint Eastwood and Adam West. Dick Van Dyke was also considered for the role but not chosen.
I personally think James Bond should always be played by a British actor. And when I think of Dick Van Dyke and British in the same sentence, all I hear is the horrible cockney he attempted in Mary Poppins... :lol:
 
It was simply a franchise adjusting itself for the time it was in, and the seventies meant big flowery collars for Moore, great theme tunes, OTT baddies and submersible Lotus's.

Each time the Bond franchise has reinvented itself and remained massively strong though. Star Trek needs to take note...

Very good points. I agree
 
How was calling "Heaven" by the name of "Sha-Ka-Ree" going to be any kind of enticement to Sean Connery to star in this shitty-assed production? That's what no one seems to have an answer for. Were I Connery, I'd have used the STAR TREK V script sent to me as kindling ...
 
Reynolds turned down the role, as did Clint Eastwood and Adam West. Dick Van Dyke was also considered for the role but not chosen.
I personally think James Bond should always be played by a British actor. And when I think of Dick Van Dyke and British in the same sentence, all I hear is the horrible cockney he attempted in Mary Poppins... :lol:
The linked article mentions that the reason he wasn't chosen was that his attempt at an English accent didn't appeal to Albert R. Broccoli.
 
How was calling "Heaven" by the name of "Sha-Ka-Ree" going to be any kind of enticement to Sean Connery to star in this shitty-assed production?

It wasn't an enticement, it was an in-joke because they were writing the Sybok role with Connery in mind, but were fairly sure they wouldn't be able to secure him.
 
Don't give roger too much credit. He essentially just played "the saint " instead of bond. And,besides, England had already developed a habit of replacing the lead insuch shows as Dr who.

Two points...

1. Moore's Saint could be light, but hardly his tongue-in-cheek, occasionally smarmy portrayal in the Bond films, such as Moonraker and Octopussy.

2. Replacement doctors did not always go over too well. Need I remind you of Colin Baker? In some parts, even Sylvester McCoy still generates groaning.
 
Don't give roger too much credit. He essentially just played "the saint " instead of bond. And,besides, England had already developed a habit of replacing the lead insuch shows as Dr who.

But they wanted Moore for the role precisely because of The Saint, who was basically a small-screen Bond. The 70s sillyness wasn't his fault.


While Chris Pine hasn't equalled or replaced Shatner as Kirk in most people's minds, I think it's generally agreed that Quinto makes a great Spock.
 
Spock is difficult.

The fan films don't nail him, Quinto doesn't nail him...other Vulcan characters on other shows don't quite seem to have the same gravitas.

I think out of all the TOS characters, Nimoy gives Spock the most unique presentation that really can't be recaptured, even as wonderful as Zach Quinto is in the role.
 
My problem with Zach Quinto is the voice. He's capable of a deeper tone, with the gravitas that Spock has always had. He just doesn't use it.
 
Don't give roger too much credit. He essentially just played "the saint " instead of bond. And,besides, England had already developed a habit of replacing the lead insuch shows as Dr who.

But they wanted Moore for the role precisely because of The Saint, who was basically a small-screen Bond. The 70s sillyness wasn't his fault.


While Chris Pine hasn't equalled or replaced Shatner as Kirk in most people's minds, I think it's generally agreed that Quinto makes a great Spock.

I think Quinto makes a passable replacement for Spock, which is different from saying he makes a great Spock. Nimoy had a way of sounding logical and calm, but still with a touch of humanity in his voice and actions. Quinto just sounds like a monotone robot to me, except when he's screaming and getting in fistfights.

If you opened up a 007 thread of who was the best I think every actor, except Lazenby, would have a significant group arguing for them. A lot of it would be based on who was Bond when they first saw the films. Like most people who started watching new Bond films today would probably be inclined for Craig, where people who started in the 70's would have a stronger Moore following, even though both are/were good.

I don't there would be hardly anyone arguing for Quinto over Nimoy, even if Quinto was the first one they saw, I think if they were familiar with Nimoy's Spock, regardless of their age and who they saw first, even they'd pick him.
 
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