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In universe explanation for Prime Directive violation in Nemesis

The Prime Directive, as it was interpreted in the TOS era, was about protecting other cultures' right to free choice and self-determination. And that meant that the Federation couldn't impose its own values and laws on another society, true, but it also meant that they could intervene to prevent someone else from doing so. If the society was already being interfered with by aliens, then it was justifiable to interfere in order to cancel out that interference. At least, that's how Kirk interpreted it.

No, that was Kirk's interpretation of the PD for that particular episode. Almost every time that the PD was ever brought up in ST was when Kirk was about to violate it based on his own interpretation of it at that particular time.

The PD should be a clear-cut set of rules/guidelines, etc. Kirk shouldn't have to "interpret" them based on whatever situation he happens to be in, especially when his own personal feelings seem to motivate his judgment.

If the Klingons had been left to their own devices, they would've used the villagers to conquer the planet and then get themselves invited in as its rulers, and ultimately the whole species would've been under alien subjugation. The idea was that arming the Hill People created a level playing field and prevented the Klingon sympathizers from conquering the whole planet. Which was the only way Kirk could see to stop the Klingons from subjugating the world, short of open war with the Empire.
And again, I will say: too bad. The Federation isn't supposed to be Team America:World Police (or galaxy police, in this case). Yes, it sucks that other alien powers are subjugating lesser races, but really, what would have been the tactical advantage to arm some primitive people with flintlocks just because the Klingons intend to eventually subjugate them? Why were those people so important that Kirk was willing to "interpret" the PD in his own way? It looks far more like Kirk is doing this only because he seems to feel some personal attachment to Tyree, not because he's trying to uphold Federation law.

Is that realistic?
It was realistic enough in the Star Trek universe that the very same thing happened on another planet under the same circumstances, as my example of Mordan shows.
 
The PD should be a clear-cut set of rules/guidelines, etc. Kirk shouldn't have to "interpret" them based on whatever situation he happens to be in, especially when his own personal feelings seem to motivate his judgment.

The Prime Directive has always been subject to interpretation. It is left to whoever is the senior Starfleet representative "on the scene," so to speak, as to how to carry out the PD and ensure that it is not violated. Or, if interference has already occurred, to ensure that it doesn't get any worse.

If the ultimate goal of the Prime Directive is to make sure that any particular alien world is left to handle its own affairs, then any such world where massive interference has already occurred (such as Tyree's planet) is allowed to receive equal assistance to counteract this.

I mean, it's not like Tyree and his people are illiterate savages - they may be primitive, but they are still intelligent and resourceful. If both sides have an equal amount of technology, which Kirk ensures will occur, then I think they can be trusted not to immediately wipe each other out. That's the best thing that anyone can hope for, in this case: neither side has an advantage.

If Kirk had left that planet alone and allowed the Klingons to run roughshod over it, then the Prime Directive is meaningless.
 
No, that was Kirk's interpretation of the PD for that particular episode. Almost every time that the PD was ever brought up in ST was when Kirk was about to violate it based on his own interpretation of it at that particular time.

And it's your interpretation that he was violating it rather than upholding it. I think you're approaching it through a 24th-century lens, where they've taken it to the cowardly extreme of avoiding any involvement at all even when their inaction leads to massive destruction. That's not how TOS interpreted the PD. It wasn't about Starfleet avoiding responsibility at all costs. It was about respecting self-determination. When Kirk intervened, it was to cancel out other interventions and restrictions on free choice, whether from computers like Vaal or interlopers like the Klingons, John Gill, and Captain Tracey.



And again, I will say: too bad. The Federation isn't supposed to be Team America:World Police (or galaxy police, in this case).
Again, that's a TNG-era perspective you're taking. Maybe you could argue that Kirk's actions would be seen as inappropriate by Picard and his contemporaries. But in the era when he lived, and in the minds of TOS's writers, the Directive was not meant to be that rigid. Preventing alien interference in indigenous cultures meant preventing anyone's interference. It meant that if something had already disrupted a culture, it was allowable to remove that disruption and restore the natural balance.

Of course, "A Private Little War" was not meant to represent an ideal scenario -- that's the whole point of the episode. It was meant to represent a Vietnam-like situation where there was no good answer, just the lesser of evils.


Yes, it sucks that other alien powers are subjugating lesser races, but really, what would have been the tactical advantage to arm some primitive people with flintlocks just because the Klingons intend to eventually subjugate them? Why were those people so important that Kirk was willing to "interpret" the PD in his own way? It looks far more like Kirk is doing this only because he seems to feel some personal attachment to Tyree, not because he's trying to uphold Federation law.
What was the tactical advantage to intervening in Korea or Vietnam? It's about not letting the enemy get a foothold -- a matter of principle as much as a move in the great game. Yes, the local population was reduced to pawns in that game, suffering as a result of the larger-scale struggle between superpowers, but the superpowers saw no choice. This wasn't like "The Apple" or "Return of the Archons" or whatever, because there was more at stake than the Prime Directive. The mindset of the Federation and the Klingons in the era was like that of the US and the USSR in the '60s, a belief that the very survival of their nations depended on not giving ground to the other. And in the context of that mentality, they were willing to compromise other principles like the PD. That's not about Kirk alone. That's about the entire astropolitical situation he was part of. Probably any other commander would've made a similar choice. How many times did America decide its laws and principles could be bent in the name of Cold War survival?

More generally, you have no basis for the opinion that Kirk's interpretation of the PD in other episodes was in any way unusual for the era. If anything, when you look at the other captains and influential figures we saw in the era -- people like Merik, Tracey, and Gill -- Kirk actually seems to be one of the more conscientious observers of the Prime Directive. Others violate it for personal gain or to impose their philosophies, but Kirk only intervenes when he deems it necessary to negate someone else's disruptive interference.

And the very fact that Kirk kept his command and even got promoted to admiral -- twice -- should be proof enough that Starfleet did not consider his actions to be in violation of Federation law. Which is why it seems likely that the 23rd-century Starfleet's interpretation of the Prime Directive was more flexible than the 24th-century version, and that Kirk's approach to it is actually pretty typical for the era in which he lived.


Is that realistic?
It was realistic enough in the Star Trek universe that the very same thing happened on another planet under the same circumstances, as my example of Mordan shows.
I could argue that it's not an identical situation at all, because the conflict was entirely internal and only one person provided weapons to both sides; but "Too Short a Season" is just such a terrible episode that I don't consider it an exemplar of anything "realistic."
 
Kirk knew in A Private Little War that he was violating the PD when he called the rifles he ordered "snakes" as in snakes in the garden of Eden. Kirk got awy with alot because he left things out of his log, like putting Khan on Ceti Alpha V otherwise we never have been up for consideration for the Genesis project. Sulu also kept thigns out of his log as learned in Flashback.
 
The funny thing about "A Private Little War" is that it's really very small-scale. The Klingons managed to teach the art of making flintlocks to a handful of these primitive people only. It should not be difficult to take the art away from them, and to take away the flintlocks already manufactured - a few (again, you can literally count with the fingers of two hands) well-placed assassinations or mindwipes, two or three raids by security teams, and things would be just as they were, which much reduced death and suffering.

"Verily, our ancestors had these powerful firesticks that came to us from the stars!" "Yeah, yeah, granddad, we've all heard the story. But today we go hunt with these bows and arrows here. Tall tales don't bring fubbalo or veaber to the table."

OTOH, protecting the innocent was never Kirk's mandate. He thought Ron Tracey should fry for daring to attempt the very thing, even though Tracey's opponents were demonstrably genocidal while the Village People had been having this friendly war with the Hill People since time immemorial and nobody was the worse for it.

Timo Saloniemi
 
^Again, I still say that it would've been a greater Prime Directive violation if they hadn't fled, if they'd been captured and the Kolarans had ended up with absolute proof of alien life. As it is, they just have a tall tale and a UFO sighting.
Didn't nuKirk get demoted for that?
 
Actually I think Kirk's removal from command in STID was as much due to falsifying his report as anything else.
 
Then again, TOS Kirk also apparently falsified his reports left and right. I guess the point there would be that he never got caught.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Actually I think Kirk's removal from command in STID was as much due to falsifying his report as anything else.

That's how I had read the plot, for what it's worth. He may or may not have broken the prime directive of noninterference as understood in that time and context, but deliberately lying about what happened so his supervisors can't intelligently debate whether he was right is pretty hard to forgive.
 
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