Nemesis was bad but nothing like as awful as Into Darkness was.
Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII
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Nemesis was bad but nothing like as awful as Into Darkness was.
Make a legitimate and compelling argument, and maybe I'll take you seriously.
On the contrary, Lin is responsible for shifting the direction of the Fast & Furious franchise from being about two cars racing for no reason at all to being some really cleverly put-together heist / thriller films.
what wasn't legitimate about what I said before?
Into Darkness was just plain awful all round imo, redoing Wrath of Kahn? awful idea, reversing Spock & Kirk's roles? awful idea, the whole point was that it's Spock's character that made him do that ffs. the Kahn blood? that's the kind of nonsense I expect from a film for toddlers not Trek. Spock & Uhura? urghhhhh seriously? no no no. it was nothing like Trek is.
YES!!!!
I'm so glad the board is taking it as well as I am, because I think this is fucking EXCELLENT news.
Lin knows how to make an exciting film and knows how to handle an all-star cast and multiple characters, should be a HUGE plus for Star Trek, which has at least 7 established regular characters.
Further, Lin took the fledgling Fast & Furious series that was all but done with the third installment and brought it roaring back to life as a relevant and huge boxoffice franchise. F & F is bigger under his eye than it ever was prior.
I had a sinking feeling when Orci, a novice, was tapped to direct. I could practically see the new Enterprise going down in flames.
NOT ANYMORE!!!!
The Star Trek franchise is revving up again.
I'm stoked.
I'm so glad the board is taking it as well as I am, because I think this is fucking EXCELLENT news.
Lin knows how to make an exciting film and knows how to handle an all-star cast and multiple characters, should be a HUGE plus for Star Trek, which has at least 7 established regular characters.
Further, Lin took the fledgling Fast & Furious series that was all but done with the third installment and brought it roaring back to life as a relevant and huge boxoffice franchise. F & F is bigger under his eye than it ever was prior.
I had a sinking feeling when Orci, a novice, was tapped to direct. I could practically see the new Enterprise going down in flames.
NOT ANYMORE!!!!
The Star Trek franchise is revving up again.
I'm stoked.
Isn't that more of a criticism of ST09? I don't see the point of faulting STID for it.
I guess, but it just adds to how it's gone awry since then.
Not to derail the thread but you should go do some googling and read about current blood stem cell research & what scientists hope to achieve in the years to come.
You might find that Khan's so called magic blood is an infinitely more plausible technology to achieve than transporters or warp drive, to name just a couple.
Humans will be using genetically-altered blood to reanimate the recently deceased long before they're traveling to distant stars.
I know a lot of the weight sits on the script but I enjoyed the plots of the last two films a great deal so I am fairly confident on paper for this story panning out as well.
I was more or less looking at it from the standpoint of the guy who is tweaking the performances to better fit his vision of the script. Obviously he will be calling shots with the actors when it comes to the type of performance they give. That's why I was asking is he has any eye for the things that (to me) separate Trek from something like the F&F franchise.
No, but he does get to tweak how that story is portrayed by the actors.
I am almost positive I have seen a few bad movies in my time where the script wasn't really to blame.
This pleases me. Make us an awesome movie, Justin Lin!
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Just the same non-sense that gets shot down over and over.
They have hired a guy who is used to working with both an ensemble cast and technically heavy shoots.
To me this is an incredible hire. I can't think of anyone that I'd rather have taking on the third film. Including Abrams and Orci.
Abso-fuckin-lutely.
Abrams did his job getting the reboot off to a good start, time to hand it over to someone else that will bring their own ideas into the mix. Star Trek has always been a work in progress with creators coming and going.
I have no strong feelings other than I never was comfortable with Orci at the helm. And that when the director of the first two films leaves, the third film seems to take a nosedive (X-Men, Batman Forever, Superman III), but at the same time, often "third films" with the same director crap out too (Godfather III, Dark Knight Rises, anything by Michael Bay). So who the hell knows? I can only hope the script is better and less lazy than Into Darkness (even though I enjoyed the film on a purely visceral level) and that Lin gives us a good, fast, exciting movie with fine character moments.
Honestly, my only real issue with the last two Trek films was Kirk came off as a really immature frat boy on a kegger. Bring the humor and character to something smarter and less "ladies!!! Jim Kirk!!!," "Spock!!! That's deep SPACE!!!!!" and pranking the natives and I'll be just dandy. If they follow Kirk's maturity arc, I think I'll be satisfied.
That's a roundabout way of saying "I hope I like it. Let's see what happens."
Honestly, my only real issue with the last two Trek films was Kirk came off as a really immature frat boy on a kegger. Bring the humor and character to something smarter and less "ladies!!! Jim Kirk!!!," "Spock!!! That's deep SPACE!!!!!" and pranking the natives and I'll be just dandy. If they follow Kirk's maturity arc, I think I'll be satisfied.
That's a roundabout way of saying "I hope I like it. Let's see what happens."
Your complaints about Kirk in the JJ films is exactly something I really like about the films. The young Kirk was exactly the kind of person I thought he would be before maturing. A ladies man, daring, reckless, etc. Now if we were talking Captain Picard I would have expected him to have been the Captain of the Starfleet Academy debate team complete with horn rim glasses!