Alien to Alien Crossbreeding Examples?

[Mojochi]

There've been countless examples of humans crossbreeding with aliens of many varieties, (Apparently, Humans will sex up anybody) but I'm racking my brain to come up with some examples of two alien races crossbreeding.

So far, I've only got one, the Romulan/Klingon girl in Birthright 2. Although, I guess the never seen Parallel universe kids of Troi & Worf would count.

I imagine there's some examples on DS9 & VOY that I'm missing, because I'm not as knowledgeable about those shows' details

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Tora Ziyal was half-Bajoran and half-Cardassian.

 

[Christopher]

Tora Ziyal was Cardassian/Bajoran, as were a few abandoned kids we saw in "Cardassians" and Dukat's child with the cultist Mika in "Covenant."

Lwaxana's young son with Jeyal from "The Muse" (named Barin Troi in the books) is Betazoid/Tavnian.

Neelix himself is bispecies; his great-grandfather was Mylean.

Saavik is Vulcan/Romulan, but those are technically the same species.

There have been a other alien/alien hybrids in Trek literature and comics, including Jena Noi in my Department of Temporal Investigations series (a blend of at least half a dozen species, not including human) and Teilani and the people of Chal from the Shatnerverse novels (Klingon/Romulan).

 

[Mojochi]

I wouldn't know anything about Trek novelizations, but Tora Ziyal I totally forgot about!

Never really knew that about Neelix

 

[JirinPanthosa]

There has to be a universe where there exists a hideous Worf Dax baby. Any universe where Jadzia decided to go to the bathroom before going to the temple.

Non human alien hybrids is something we can probably assume is pretty common but we don't see a lot because the producers thought we were too dumb to understand it.

 

[tafkats]

Seska's baby is half Cardassian, half Kazon.

In one of the alternate realities Worf jumps to, his children with Troi are half Klingon, one-quarter Betazoid and one-quarter human.

And then I suppose there's Tuvix, though he's not a result of interbreeding.

 

[HIjol]

Could you say that Shinzon is part Reman? I know he is supposed to be a Human clone, but maybe there is a little Reman juice and patè thrown in?

 

[Enterprise1701]

There has to be a universe where there exists a hideous Worf Dax baby. Any universe where Jadzia decided to go to the bathroom before going to the temple.

Weren't several of the colonists on Gaia descended from Worf and Jadzia?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Brota

 

[Nerys Myk]

Could you say that Shinzon is part Reman? I know he is supposed to be a Human clone, but maybe there is a little Reman juice and patè thrown in?

He might be a cultural Reman, but I don't think he has any Reman genetics.

 

[TheSubCommander]

Saavik is Vulcan/Romulan, but those are technically the same species.

That is up for debate, though. That is assuming that the ancestors of the Romulans didn't crossbreed with other species during their exodus to Romulus, or even the indigenous inhabitants of Romulus, for that matter. If they did, then that would make them a hybrid species at the very least, or perhaps would qualify as their own species.

And if we are going to count Saavik, we should count T'Pol, since it has been said that had Enterprise continued, it may have been revealed her father was Romulan.

 

[Christopher]

Could you say that Shinzon is part Reman? I know he is supposed to be a Human clone, but maybe there is a little Reman juice and patè thrown in?

He might be a cultural Reman, but I don't think he has any Reman genetics.

Of course not. He was created as part of a plan to replace Picard (and probably other Starfleet officers) with an exact double. If he couldn't pass as Picard in a medical exam, it would've defeated the purpose. So his genome must have been identical to Picard's, i.e. entirely human.

 

[T'Girl]

But Federation medical science can (iirc) differentiate beteen a "original" and a clone, plus the accelerated growth to Picard's age also likely would have left markers.

It's unlikely that Shinzon would have been able to pass any but the most cursory medical scans.

 

[UssGlenn]

There has to be a universe where there exists a hideous Worf Dax baby. Any universe where Jadzia decided to go to the bathroom before going to the temple.

Weren't several of the colonists on Gaia descended from Worf and Jadzia?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Brota

None of them showed signs of being descended from both. It's probable that the limited medical facilities prevented them from having kids together so they both had children via human partners to maximize the genetic diversity of the population.

 

[Christopher]

But Federation medical science can (iirc) differentiate beteen a "original" and a clone, plus the accelerated growth to Picard's age also likely would have left markers.

It's unlikely that Shinzon would have been able to pass any but the most cursory medical scans.

Even so, there was no reason why the Romulans' cloning plan would've involved creating a human-Reman hybrid. The film made it clear that Shinzon identified with the Remans because he was exiled to live among them and because the Viceroy took care of him.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Ba'el and the other children of Klingon/Romulan relationships that the OP mentions seem to be the only unusual ones that Star Trek ever depicted. The resentment of the Klingons towards the Romulans and the stigma attached to what went on in village let Birthright thread into more uncomfortable territory, and explore a harder topic. I should watch that again.

The Human/Vulcan and Human/Klingon relationships would have much less stigma attached in ENT and TOS times respectively – though it is a shame Scotty didn't meet K'Ehleyr or B'Elanna. Particularly B'Elanna – too bad he didn't tour her engineering section. Even Simon Tarses in the Drumhead gained the sympathy of everyone, including Worf, within the course of an episode. I doubt anyone from Birthright would be that lucky – they feared others just knowing about them, which was a pretty large dose of injustice that's difficult to match.

The other alien/alien hybrids, rare as they were, were done on the "everything goes" principle – no background or exploration of the attitudes in their societies, so I never even noticed them. Even though the rarity implied they were not exactly welcome everywhere.

And Neelix shouldn't even count.

 

[f14peter]

Ba'el and the other children of Klingon/Romulan relationships that the OP mentions seem to be the only unusual ones that Star Trek ever depicted. The resentment of the Klingons towards the Romulans and the stigma attached to what went on in village let Birthright thread into more uncomfortable territory, and explore a harder topic. I should watch that again.

Watched BIRTHRIGHT just last night. Near as I can tell, of the children shown in the episode, and more specifically those who stood with Worf at his execution, Ba'el was the only hybrid. Thus she stayed behind when Worf left as she felt she would find no acceptance anywhere else. Although, could be argued that she could live somewhere in the Federation besides Kron'os or Romulus.

There may have been more hybrid children as it was stated there were 70-something Klingons present yet less than 20 appear in the episode.

 

[FormerLurker]

Please watch it again to confirm something for me. I remember Ba'el being among those that beamed aboard the Enterprise with Worf. She deliberately hung back to go unnoticed. If it was some other girl, then I'm wrong, but I thought for sure that was her.

 

[Christopher]

Please watch it again to confirm something for me. I remember Ba'el being among those that beamed aboard the Enterprise with Worf. She deliberately hung back to go unnoticed. If it was some other girl, then I'm wrong, but I thought for sure that was her.

No. The last we see of Ba'el is on the planet, where she moves away from Worf and Toq to stand arm-in-arm with her parents, making it clear that she's staying on Carraya with them. We then cut to several days later as the Enterprise rendezvouses with a Romulan Warbird that's transferring the rescuees across, and the only ones we actually see beam aboard are Worf and Toq, although Crusher mentions that the others are already getting seen to in sickbay.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Watched BIRTHRIGHT just last night. Near as I can tell, of the children shown in the episode, and more specifically those who stood with Worf at his execution, Ba'el was the only hybrid. Thus she stayed behind when Worf left as she felt she would find no acceptance anywhere else. Although, could be argued that she could live somewhere in the Federation besides Kron'os or Romulus.

There may have been more hybrid children as it was stated there were 70-something Klingons present yet less than 20 appear in the episode.

Yeah. I also rewatched it two days ago. That ending is really a downer. Spending the rest of your life in that small jungle compound, without ever visiting a place in the rest of the universe, because you fear you wouldn't be accepted anywhere. Especially when everyone outside of Qo'noS and Romulus doesn't care, and Worf himself rarely stays on the Klingon homeworld. That didn't feel right, and TNG could use another Romulan character to appear at least once more.

Actually, the episode didn't outright state that she was staying behind, it was just implied.

 

[FormerLurker]

Please watch it again to confirm something for me. I remember Ba'el being among those that beamed aboard the Enterprise with Worf. She deliberately hung back to go unnoticed. If it was some other girl, then I'm wrong, but I thought for sure that was her.

No. The last we see of Ba'el is on the planet, where she moves away from Worf and Toq to stand arm-in-arm with her parents, making it clear that she's staying on Carraya with them. We then cut to several days later as the Enterprise rendezvouses with a Romulan Warbird that's transferring the rescuees across, and the only ones we actually see beam aboard are Worf and Toq, although Crusher mentions that the others are already getting seen to in sickbay.

Thank you. I haven't seen the episode since it first aired, so my memory of it is faded.