The Lorelei Signal

[Maurice]

Not much variation in their skin color/faces, is there?

Fixed that for ya.

 

[Christopher]

Aside from VOY did any human female take command in ENT or TNG or DS9. I think I can remember Crusher doing night duty in TNG once. And I know there were female captains of other ships.

Crusher commanded the bridge in "Descent" and "Thine Own Self." Troi also stood a bridge watch at the end of "Thine Own Self," though this was only described, not shown. (She's half-human, so I'm counting her.)

Hoshi Sato commanded the bridge in "Terra Prime."

Limiting it to human females is rather unfair in DS9's case, since it never had a human female as a regular. Kira and Dax were both repeatedly shown in command positions.

 

[Silvercrest]

If it is expensive to store such a vast data set, there would be companies selling this service to the rich, much like the ones that currently sell cryogenic freezer services to the wildly optimistic rich of today.

But... but... they don't use money!

So selectively editing one part of the pattern while leaving the rest unaltered should be easy for a transporter.

For the transporter, perhaps. For the transporter operator, not quite that easy: the more "advanced" modifications listed above were accidents beyond the control of the heroes.

Rendering a gun inert can be done pretty violently; for all we know, the gun will then never fire again.

If the timing is right, it might be easier for the operator to simply omit the part of the envelope that contains the projectile, disruptor ray, or whatever.

 

[Timo]

"It's science patches for the lot of ya!"

That's internal consistency, I guess: the ship never had female security personnel in evidence previously, so these were probably drafted from Scotty's or Spock's department rather than Giotto's.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[CrazyMatt]

All four of those faces resemble Nurse Chapel in her animated form. The details are different, jawlines and freckles and so forth, but the eyes nose and mouth are almost identical, as if drawn from a single model or template. Probably made it easier to animate, as they just have to switch out mouth movements.

Oooooooh! I know how it happened!

CHAPEL: We don't have enough female crew members on board to attack.

UHURA: Just go clone yourself 100 times, Christine. Then we'll attack!

.... well, it's just a plausible as anything else from TAS, isn't it?????

 

[Mytran]

The could probably use the Transporter to clone her. That damn machine does just about everything else in TAS!

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Oooooooh! I know how it happened!

CHAPEL: We don't have enough female crew members on board to attack.

UHURA: Just go clone yourself 100 times, Christine. Then we'll attack!

.... well, it's just a plausible as anything else from TAS, isn't it?????

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

 

[F. King Daniel]

Oooooooh! I know how it happened!

CHAPEL: We don't have enough female crew members on board to attack.

UHURA: Just go clone yourself 100 times, Christine. Then we'll attack!

.... well, it's just a plausible as anything else from TAS, isn't it?????

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

 

[GSchnitzer]

Oooooooh! I know how it happened!

CHAPEL: We don't have enough female crew members on board to attack.

UHURA: Just go clone yourself 100 times, Christine. Then we'll attack!

.... well, it's just a plausible as anything else from TAS, isn't it?????

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

I am reminded of Clarke's Third Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

That is to say, from your limited vantage point if the 21st century, the transporter technology probably does appear magical.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Oooooooh! I know how it happened!

CHAPEL: We don't have enough female crew members on board to attack.

UHURA: Just go clone yourself 100 times, Christine. Then we'll attack!

.... well, it's just a plausible as anything else from TAS, isn't it?????

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

I WANNNNNNNNNAAAA LLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE!

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I WANNNNNNNNNAAAA LLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE!

I've always thought that a sound clip of "I don't wanna go back. I wanna live!" would be a great shut-down sound for my computer. But I never set it up.

 

[F. King Daniel]

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

I am reminded of Clarke's Third Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

That is to say, from your limited vantage point if the 21st century, the transporter technology probably does appear magical.

The whole splitting-into-good-and-evil halves thing, though? Come on!

 

[Mytran]

Well sure! The yellow ore that contaminated the Transporter did have "highly unusual properties"

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

I am reminded of Clarke's Third Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

That is to say, from your limited vantage point if the 21st century, the transporter technology probably does appear magical.

The whole splitting-into-good-and-evil halves thing, though? Come on!

You say "come on" to that? The idea of the transporter turning adults into children was patently absurd. The grating part was the usual TNG techno-babble created to justify any of it. I've seen 1940s cartoons with a greater sense of realism than the "Rascals" transported plot.

 

[Mytran]

Looking at the transcript, some weird unknown energy field appears to have selectively prevented the Transporter from beaming in the full genetic code of the Transportees. I don't care for the explanation myself, but the Transporter does have a precedent as an aging or de-aging machine at least.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I am reminded of Clarke's Third Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

That is to say, from your limited vantage point if the 21st century, the transporter technology probably does appear magical.

The whole splitting-into-good-and-evil halves thing, though? Come on!

You say "come on" to that? The idea of the transporter turning adults into children was patently absurd. The grating part was the usual TNG techno-babble created to justify any of it. I've seen 1940s cartoons with a greater sense of realism than the "Rascals" transported plot.

I only mentioned that as the first instance. The transporter has been doing magic ever since.

 

[f14peter]

Aside from VOY did any human female take command in ENT or TNG or DS9. I think I can remember Crusher doing night duty in TNG once. And I know there were female captains of other ships.

Crusher commanded the bridge in "Descent" and "Thine Own Self." Troi also stood a bridge watch at the end of "Thine Own Self," though this was only described, not shown. (She's half-human, so I'm counting her.)

Hoshi Sato commanded the bridge in "Terra Prime."

Limiting it to human females is rather unfair in DS9's case, since it never had a human female as a regular. Kira and Dax were both repeatedly shown in command positions.

in regard to the primary ship, Enterprise: Cmdr Shelby commanded either the saucer section or battle section, can't remember which in BoBW ... Troi commanded during Disaster ... and I believe Dr Crusher was in command for short stints while Picard was off the bridge in FC. Different Enterprise but Rachel Garrett in Yesterday's Enterprise.

Other ships ... Beverly Picard commanded her own medical ship ... Erika Benteen commanded the USS Lakota in Paradise Lost.

must be more

 

[JonnyQuest037]

The whole splitting-into-good-and-evil halves thing, though? Come on!

Geez, Scotty forgets to hit the "Keep Good and Evil Halves Merged Together" Lever ONE time...

 

[Lance]

While Uhura taking command is indisputably a real 'punch the air' moment, it must be noted that the circumstances under which she does so are exceptional. It isn't like she assumes command as part of a regular shift... the entire male crew compliment has been incapacitated, and Uhura is simply the ranking female bridge officer.

I remember an urban myth sprung up in the late eighties that Uhura was the fourth in line behind Scotty, based presumably on this episode. But that rather ignores the fact that in more regular circumstances, we've seen Sulu and Chekov take the chair ahead of her. Not to mention the likes of DeSalle and Leslie.

Aside from VOY did any human female take command in ENT or TNG or DS9. I think I can remember Crusher doing night duty in TNG once. And I know there were female captains of other ships.

Limiting it to human females is rather unfair in DS9's case, since it never had a human female as a regular. Kira and Dax were both repeatedly shown in command positions.

Extend it to non-Starfleet ships and semi-regular characters (because DS9 was more fluid in it's depiction of things anyway, and because SantaSpock/CommishSleer never actually asked for only regular characters specifically ), and we can probably count Kassidy Yates as a strong female character in a command role. Though we didn't really see her do it much.

 

[BillJ]

That is as plausible as TNG's "Rascals" with the transporter turning people into children...

...or TOS, splitting someone into "good" and "evil" halves. The transporter's been magic since the get-go.

I am reminded of Clarke's Third Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

That is to say, from your limited vantage point if the 21st century, the transporter technology probably does appear magical.

I think the biggest hurdle for me with the good and evil Kirk, or turning adults into kids or the creation of Tuvix is the mass? Where does the extra mass come from or go to?

It isn't so big a hurdle to keep me from enjoying the drama (the scripts from "Rascals" and "Tuvix" do that), but it is a head scratcher.