Terminator Genisys..Official Trailer

[Guy Gardener]

(Assuming that her cancer is constant/consistent.)

If it's 1993 and she has 4 years left to live, she will die in 1997.

If you take her forward in time from 1993 to 2007, she still have four years left to live and will die in 2011.

The new date for Judgement Day is April 21, 2011, so a cure to cancer would have been moot.

Barely a life worth living.

What an asshole though.

Imagine the sense of humour that Skynet must have, if it found the cure to cancer while trying to destroy humanity entirely?

HA!

In older timelines where Judgement Day happened much earlier, either Sarah had not been yet effected by Cancer or the higher radiation levels on the planet from the bombings, acted as a naturally occurring chemotherapy regime.

Then again it was probably proximity tot he T-800 that did give her cancer. Either while killing the first one,or while replacing the power core in the second one. You would think that Skynet would want it's Terminators to be randomly blasting X-rays at the last remaining humans to increase cancer clusters and reduce fertility, so therefore have negligent to zero shielding on the Terminators power cores.

 

[RoJoHen]

This trailer looks neat. It's clearly not ignoring previous movies; it's actively telling us that things are different due to crazy time travel shenanigans. I'm actually pretty excited.

 

[drasche]

I prefer this trailer.

 

[Relayer1]

(Assuming that her cancer is constant/consistent.)

If it's 1993 and she has 4 years left to live, she will die in 1997.

If you take her forward in time from 1993 to 2007, she still have four years left to live and will die in 2011.

The new date for Judgement Day is April 21, 2011, so a cure to cancer would have been moot.

Barely a life worth living.

What an asshole though.

Imagine the sense of humour that Skynet must have, if it found the cure to cancer while trying to destroy humanity entirely?

HA!

In older timelines where Judgement Day happened much earlier, either Sarah had not been yet effected by Cancer or the higher radiation levels on the planet from the bombings, acted as a naturally occurring chemotherapy regime.

Then again it was probably proximity tot he T-800 that did give her cancer. Either while killing the first one,or while replacing the power core in the second one. You would think that Skynet would want it's Terminators to be randomly blasting X-rays at the last remaining humans to increase cancer clusters and reduce fertility, so therefore have negligent to zero shielding on the Terminators power cores.

Maybe her cancer was caused by exposure to something else entirely, and she inadvertantly avoided it in the altered timeline.

Or maybe she had to fake her death in the original timeline for some reason ?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well, her coffin didn't exactly have a corpse in it.

 

[Bisz]

First I heard of this movie is when I saw the JeremyJahns YouTube review of the trailer. He made some excellent points about how what is shown in the trailer could link closely to the other Terminator movies and how awesome the potential is. Overall, I'm mildly excited for this movie now.

 

[Enterprise1701]

The past portions of Genisys are supposed to be 1984, correct? I can't tell from the trailer if the scenery is accurately 1984 or not.

 

[JoeZhang]

The past portions of Genisys are supposed to be 1984, correct? I can't tell from the trailer if the scenery is accurately 1984 or not.

That's not actually clear - some of them are - like when Reece arrives but I have a sneaking idea there are other time-jumps nearer to the present.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The past portions of Genisys are supposed to be 1984, correct? I can't tell from the trailer if the scenery is accurately 1984 or not.

That's not actually clear - some of them are - like when Reece arrives but I have a sneaking idea there are other time-jumps nearer to the present.

I have more of a feeling that time-jumps happened in the past, way before 1984, that a T-800 was sent to protect her from the time when she was child (which is why he aged and why she knows so much) but the scenes in 1984 are pretty close to how they looked from the original film.. natch

 

[Turtletrekker]

I have fun imagining that at some point, in order to ensure the conception of John Conner, Old Arnold will turn to Sarah and Reece and say in his Austrian monotone, "You two must procreate now".

Yeah, no pressure...

 

[Guy Gardener]

For John to remain constantly John, I've assumed that Sarah is artificially inseminated a week before the first Terminator turns up without her being aware of it.

Of course that would require collecting Kyle's sperm with or without Kyle's knowledge?

(They really could have used anyones. If they wanted a magic time baby, they should have been curious what would happen if John Connor was his own father? Science demands answers to this question!)

Playing a deeper game regarding the original paradox, Skynet cannot exist as specifically the Skynet it is without John Fighting back, or before that Sarah fighting back and the Terminator misplacing it's cpu like it did, so it's entirely possible that the original Terminator kept missing it's targets on purpose because Skynet was sacrificing a pawn to win.

 

[Ithekro]

Or perhaps both John and Kyle look different because the insemination took place differently (a different day. John is the product of not only a different sperm/egg, Kyle might be the result of a ripple effect, causing him to also be from a different sperm/egg, thus this Kyle is different because John was different, because Kyle was different....)

 

[DWF]

I saw the trailer before The Hobbit and it does look pretty good and I loved the use of the original music, I just hope they explain the existance of the old T800.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or perhaps both John and Kyle look different because the insemination took place differently (a different day. John is the product of not only a different sperm/egg, Kyle might be the result of a ripple effect, causing him to also be from a different sperm/egg, thus this Kyle is different because John was different, because Kyle was different....)

Michael Biehn was 28 in Terminator, which doesn't mean a lot.

Reese was sent back in 2029.

Judgment day was (originally?) in 1997.

It is likely that Kyle was born after Judgement day.

Judgement Day would have ironed out any wrinkles on a personal human level, as long as Skynet kept tossing it's toys on the same day, even if a lot of people had been knocked off course by the effects generated by time travellers, because they were either dead, or falling back to preordained panic stations since there are only so many many reactions possible to a nuclear war, the timeline post judgement day would have been very similar.

 

[Tosk]

It is likely that Kyle was born after Judgement day.

Correct. Kyle specifically says so in T1.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Even though we saw him playing football prejudgement day with his brother Derek in the Sarah Connor Chronicles.



Judgement day moves to first 2003 and then 2011, but when the time machine is built remains almost static. Why the time machine exists seems independent of the State of Skynets personal development. That sounds like the technology is a present from an outside force. Which either really means Aliens or a message/messenger sent back from further up time.

If John chooses not to send Kyle back. The Terminator kills Sarah and doesn't leave technology behind that is essential to Skynet's birth. No Skynet, no Judgement Day. What would a Terminator lost in the past do if it began to notice history unfolding wrong?

 

[Magellan]

Even though we saw him playing football prejudgement day with his brother Derek in the Sarah Connor Chronicles.



Judgement day moves to first 2003 and then 2011, but when the time machine is built remains almost static. Why the time machine exists seems independent of the State of Skynets personal development. That sounds like the technology is a present from an outside force. Which either really Aliens or a message/mesenger sent back from further up time.

If John chooses not to send Kyle back. The Terminator kills Sarah and doesn't leave technology behind that is essential to Skynet's birth. No Skynet, no Judgement Day. What would a Terminator lost in the past do if it began to notice history unfolding wrong?

Now this would actually be an interesting twist. The only way to beat skynet is to let it win. That would be a movie I'd watch.

 

[Ryan8bit]

I just hope they explain the existance of the old T800.

I think the general idea is that he is sent back to protect Sarah as a child from perhaps another terminator. It explains why she is more aware of things than Kyle. While he is dispatching the young T-800, Sarah is rescuing Kyle from a T-1000. What I wonder is why that T-1000 is now there. It sounds like the time travel waters are being muddied a bit.

 

[JoeZhang]

The past portions of Genisys are supposed to be 1984, correct? I can't tell from the trailer if the scenery is accurately 1984 or not.

That's not actually clear - some of them are - like when Reece arrives but I have a sneaking idea there are other time-jumps nearer to the present.

I have more of a feeling that time-jumps happened in the past, way before 1984, that a T-800 was sent to protect her from the time when she was child (which is why he aged and why she knows so much) but the scenes in 1984 are pretty close to how they looked from the original film.. natch

Oh that's a given - but at one stage, I think 1990s Arnie appears (on a bike).

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Asian T-1000 could have been chasing/fighting Arnie since the early 1970s.

Taking racism into account, in 1970s America, why the hell on Earth would Skynet make that T-1000's default setting Asian?

Does Skynet like old Jackie Chan movies?