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Could Interstellar influence Trek 3?

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Both the JJ Treks were heavily influenced by nolans first 2 bat films. Maybe Orci is looking to Interstellar for Trek 3

ST09 already dealt with black holes, space time differentiations, alternate realities etc but maybe in light of Interstellar Trek3 will go back to that stuff (albeit in an even more SciFiy way) - maybe even tying in with that end black hole/Narada debris (which like TDKR would tie stuff back to the first film)- where/when did it emerge? what if it turned up in the delta quadrant.. or near vger.. or had a hand in creating them (Borg/vger at last!)

plus theres already rumours of Shatner playing an older version of Pine Kirk so again that could be something like Interstellar ... allowing for pine/quinto to interact with Shat Nimoy (either as older versions of pine/Quinto or Prime K/S)
 
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I doubt it will be an influence, since the first draft script was finished prior to the release of Interstellar.
 
Yeah but filmmakers will be in the know about what's being made by who, got hold of earlier drafts, seen early cuts, get a feel of what's going to be the next big thing etc way before release
 
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I've not seen Interstellar, word is that it's a solid sci-fi flick, I'd like to see Trek 3 embrace a more sci-fi oriented story, with plenty of action still but not have the action totally dominate like the first two.

We've got to know these new versions of the characters, let's have a bit of wonder or mystery. Return the series to it's roots for it's biggest anniversary.
 
I doubt it, and I don't really want them to either. Even ignoring the fact that Interstellar is not that good a movie and is really derivative of better sci-fi done elsewhere, Star Trek is not hard science and shouldn't try to be. The last time a Trek movie tried to be hard science was TMP, and that had mixed results to say the least

maybe even tying in with that end black hole/Narada debris (which like TDKR would tie stuff back to the first film)- where/when did it emerge? what if it turned up in the delta quadrant.. or near vger.. or had a hand in creating them (Borg/vger at last!)

Actually, if anything it probably ended up in the 22nd century and Nero should now be giving Captain Archer a hard time.

plus theres already rumours of Shatner playing an older version of Pine Kirk so again that could be something like Interstellar ... allowing for pine/quinto to interact with Shat Nimoy (either as older versions of pine/Quinto or Prime K/S)

So, wait, are you suggesting they should copy plot elements from Interstellar? Wouldn't that just be sloppier, lazier?

I don't know, hearing some of these ideas for what people want in Trek XIII is making be wish they do go with the Borg. It might be cheap and lazy, but at least it'll be fun.
 
may be. its hard to tell but I guess whenever a film has space time laws, wormholes, black wholes ,space travel they all get compared to star trek. Gene Rodenberry would be proud.

I did love the visual style of Nolan's wormhole it was stunning more stunning that JJ's red matter black whole style but that is were it ends. I founds star trek 2009 to be a far better film and a more balanced film than interstellar.

Nolan needs to stop taking everything way too seriously. his directing style is one note and one dimensional in compression to JJ Abrams who is not afraid to have a little fun without taking away the seriousness and mature themes of his films.
 
whenever a film has space time laws, wormholes, black wholes ,space travel they all get compared to star trek. Gene Rodenberry would be proud.
Yes I noticed the IS Empire review was titled 'Star Trek into Greatness'
 
whenever a film has space time laws, wormholes, black wholes ,space travel they all get compared to star trek. Gene Rodenberry would be proud.
Yes I noticed the IS Empire review was titled 'Star Trek into Greatness'


Empire?

not surprised. they are nothing more but part of the nolan fanclub machine pretending to be professional critics. notice how they gave interstellar 5 stars when many critics gave the film mixed to favorite reviews. Empire also spent the last months viciously promoting the film. many people have accused empire of having a nolan bias and I an beginning to see it.

funny I think star trek 2009 is a superior film to interstellar and into darkness is as well a better film as well even with the reharsh.
 
Well they gave the JJ Treks great reviews so everything ok :) anyway IS was quite amazing at times, I've seen worse films get the illustrious 5 stars
 
Star Trek (particularly the movies) would be going too far out of its box to stick to hard science. I think the most fascinating thing about Interstellar was how they tried to depict the visuals as scientifically accurate. I don't think you could ever expect that from a series of movies where a black hole is basically just a 2D literal black hole. In these movies we're stuck with "cold fusion" and the like, so it would be a stretch to ask for something like Interstellar.
 
I hope so. Interstellar was fantastic and its handling of time dilation and black holes were very much in the Trek tradition. That is to say: it was utter nonsense, but it was internally consistent with itself.
 
I imagine the next Star Trek movie would be more influenced by Guardians Of The Galaxy than by Interstellar. I think the next Star Trek movie will more an action/adveture movie than anything else.
 
I read that they grossly overrated the effects of time dilation with black holes in the movie.

I think that's actually explained by Gargantua spinning at an incredible speed. I don't know how consistent the dilation is throughout the whole film though.

And make no mistake, it's absurd to even call the levels of science between Star Trek and Interstellar as being remotely the same. Star Trek is basically something made as a story first, with jargon made to support it that has no real scientific basis. Some of that in the next gen series was made by a guy who had a bachelor's degree in physics, which is at least something, but he had no real authority. If something in a script was contradicted by science, the script would always win. As such, there was very much that was preposterously unscientific throughout.

On the other hand, Interstellar was made with the physics first (or at least parallel), and the story was shaped to support it. If a story element contradicted science, it had to be reworked until it fit. And that was because of the position of Kip Thorne, who wasn't just some guy with a bachelor's degree making up stuff. He's the real deal where it comes to this kind of thing, and his uncompromising attitude is pretty much the exact opposite of what you'd see on Trek. Sure, there are some elements in the movie that are questionable or fantastical, but that's why it's still called science fiction.

So yeah, the Bad Robot team isn't ever going to take this kind of approach to Star Trek, and they arguably shouldn't.
 
I imagine the next Star Trek movie would be more influenced by Guardians Of The Galaxy than by Interstellar. I think the next Star Trek movie will more an action/adveture movie than anything else.

God I hope not. I thought that film sucked balls.
 
Both the JJ Treks were heavily influenced by nolans first 2 bat films. Maybe Orci is looking to Interstellar for Trek 3

ST09 already dealt with black holes, space time differentiations, alternate realities etc but maybe in light of Interstellar Trek3 will go back to that stuff (albeit in an even more SciFiy way) - maybe even tying in with that end black hole/Narada debris (which like TDKR would tie stuff back to the first film)- where/when did it emerge? what if it turned up in the delta quadrant.. or near vger.. or had a hand in creating them (Borg/vger at last!)

plus theres already rumours of Shatner playing an older version of Pine Kirk so again that could be something like Interstellar ... allowing for pine/quinto to interact with Shat Nimoy (either as older versions of pine/Quinto or Prime K/S)

I'd be surprised if it did. Older incarnations already tried doing a lot things in Interstellar does already (in varying degrees), and that is uniformly dismissed as Treknobabble. For good or bad, we are now in an era of the fast-paced blockbuster, shaky cam Trek. Not deep Sci fi Trek.

If there is any kind of influence on the next Star Trek film, it will likely come from the next Star Wars film, both because Abrams is doing that one, and the fact that if they find a formula that works with those films (IE visual queues, cinematography, plot elements), they will try to replicate it in the next Trek film.

One thing I think is kind of cool that they are doing with the next Star Wars film(s) is they are going back to old McQuarrie concept art, and drawing inspiration from that for ship and set designs. I think it would be kind of cool if the next Trek film did that with McQuarrie and other concept art (IE Matt Jeffries), for new ship designs or even cities on other planets.
 
As said above, I can also see them making a movie more like Guardians of the Galaxy than Interstellar. Guardians was fun and while I still haven't seen Interstellar (but want to), I don't think the general movie viewing public would like the jarring transition from fun movies like '09 and Into Darkness to total serious sci fi like Interstellar. That's not to say I wouldn't want to see Pine, Quinto, Saldana in a sci fi heavy movie, but they would have to make it a slow transition from the fun previous movies to thought provoking or else they end up alienating potential viewers (aka the mouth breathers). And, unfortunately, Star Trek needs mouth breathers to remain successful.

Edit: I'm not saying that anybody who likes Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness are mouth breathers, I love those movies and I breathe through my nose. But, the mouth breathers are more likely to watch the new Trek movies than The Motion Picture, The Undiscovered Country and The Wrath of Khan.
 
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