You mean, "Blink of an Eye."
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You mean, "Blink of an Eye."
Strictly speaking neither of those episodes dealt with strict "time dilation" dealing with the warping of time due to gravitational fields but with some other MacGuffin (usually sub-space) causing the time-distortion.
If humans were to move to that planet and colonize it, the universe (and the star that the planet and black hole were orbiting) would age over 6 million years while humans only experienced 100 years of life on the planet. How further beyond 6 million years would that solar system and planet even be stable?
If there is literally no other planet in the galaxy capable of supporting humanity, maybe you would consider that one. But you really shouldn't, as just a ragtag fleet of colony ships floating among the stars would be a far better option.
I think a planet like that would be used more as a temporary staging ground for humanity. Basically, you would keep the humans down there for a few relative days while ships full of scientists work on building-up human technology and finding a better planet for long-term settlement.
You could also keep a decent-size population down there as a long-term as safety valve against human society destroying itself. Ideally, you would send a bunch of humans outward in colony-ships every few relative years.
Outside of Miller's planet being a water planet, I had to wonder how they landed on it and what they were walking on after landing. The floating frozen cloud on Mann's world didn't make much sense either. Truthfully for me a romance between Brand and Coopermakes sense to me, he not only willingly sacifices himself to save but he goes back to her in the end, although the movie really does head in that direction
Emotionally the movie is pretty powerful, but in the end for all Cooper goes though in the movie he's pretty forgotten about by the end. The fact that they recreated his house and we saw a similar scene of Cooper sitiing on his porch drinking a beer was surreal to say the least. Although seeing the baseball player hitting the ball in that window was a nice callback to Inception and the earlier baseball scene.
Emotionally the movie is pretty powerful, but in the end for all Cooper goes though in the movie he's pretty forgotten about by the end. The fact that they recreated his house and we saw a similar scene of Cooper sitiing on his porch drinking a beer was surreal to say the least. Although seeing the baseball player hitting the ball in that window was a nice callback to Inception and the earlier baseball scene.
They were essentially walking on a beach that never gets dry. If there wasn't the higher gravity creating the giant waves, the "land" would probably be a seafloor twenty or thirty feet deep. But since the giant waves constantly keep pulling in the water out to build up the wave (like how water recedes on a beach ahead of a tsunami) it remains a shallow two feet or so between waves.
The ice planet was in the original script, but it's one of the few parts Kip Thorne expressed misgivings about, saying that he didn't think the ice clouds would hold up structurally.
In the original script, the ice planet and the water planet were one in the same, and they were the only planet in the system. There were giant underground bubbles in the ice that were pockets of oxygen generated by some fractal-based lifeforms, where it was revealed that a Chinese expedition with their own TARS/CASE type robots had already set up shop and were killed by radiation 30 years earlier. Instead of Dr. Mann freaking out and attacking, the team gets attacked by Chinese military robots that built the habitat.
I thought it was a little odd how much time was devoted to the father/daughter relationship and then when he finally gets back to her, he talks to her for like five minutes and then takes off. I get that she was dying and that she wanted to say goodbye to her family and that the movie was already really long and they wanted to wrap it up without 900 LotR endings, but that felt a little rushed to me. He spent more time having a beer with his robot.
That whole Earth side part of Cooper reminded me of a scene from a Tim Robbins comedy, IQ, where he tell Einstein and his friends about a SciFi story of two brothers and relativity asking which is happier. Analogously, Murphy is as she has her family and history but for Cooper time has just passed. He has no place on Earth apart from Murphy and Brand is still out there not knowing what happened to Earth, Cooper, or even if what she is doing is completely futile. Even without the romance, it made sense for Cooper to go back and see through the mission there. That's where his life is more than Earth.
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Oh, I totally agree. I have no problem with him going off to find Brand. It was just how rapidly it happened. I get that there was no place for him in the solar system anymore and that he was an explorer and Brand's the only one who can relate to him now, but I don't think spending some more time with your daughter before she dies is going to make a huge difference after you tried so hard to get back to her.
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I suppose so, his response was a rather anticlimactic agreement with her in the end, but since he was relating more to the youngster he left than the old woman he saw perhaps it's a reasonable bit of scene. Both know they should be feeling something but they are both ghosts to each other now.
Man, if the effect of time dilation caused such a huge issue just in this two hour movie, imagine how much of a complicated mess it would make the Trek universe if they tried to address it realistically.
With all the different planets being visited and all the warping about through the galaxy, people would be aging at all kinds of different rates in that universe.
But shouldn't we have actually seen the solid surface? Considering how huge those waves were, they should have sucked out all the water, right?
There's nothing to suck it out from, since there's no dry land with a finite supply off water crashing against it, there's just a global shallow seafloor that's been pounded flat by endless waves. There's just more water in a shallow globe-spanning ocean that keeps feeding the waves, so the depth can alter a little, but it never gets dry. I bet the waves continue on around the world in a continuous loop of giant waves spaced twenty or thirty minutes apart.
What makes us think the water/wave planet was 100% covered in a shallow ocean? Sure, maybe the whole planet was covered in water, but maybe they just happened to land in a shallow area? Maybe the, like all beaches and oceans do here, the land sloped down to a rougher terrain at some point and made for a vastly deeper ocean? Heck, with tidal waves that high seems to me there'd almost have to far deeper areas. (Though if I understand tidal waves correctly they get shorter as they enter shallower waters.)
The behavior of the wave and as it tossed the ship around suggests there must have been a very, very, deep ocean somewhere. Hell, maybe gravity was so screwed up from the proximity to Gargantua that it made it possible for one to "walk on water."
The behavior of the wave and as it tossed the ship around suggests there must have been a very, very, deep ocean somewhere. Hell, maybe gravity was so screwed up from the proximity to Gargantua that it made it possible for one to "walk on water."
I wrote a review on comicbooked.com, but in my opinion the weakest part of the film was the actual mission (not getting there, not the visuals). Even now, we can see with reasonable certainty which planets could support life in a goldilox zone from thousands of light years. Yes the system they went to is much further away, but once they left the wormhole, going to the planets' surfaces might not be necessary to determine if a planet was habitable. Even a low orbit would tell them (hey this place is drenched in water, and it's too close to the black hole), things like that.
The movie is so strong, but I think Nolan underestimates our ability to survey a planet.
The movie is so strong, but I think Nolan underestimates our ability to survey a planet.
I'm not sure we've yet got telescopes that can *see* planets in the "Goldilocks Zone" we just know they're there due to the effects they have on their parent star or by seeing their "eclipse" as they pass in front of a star. But we're a long, long way off from physically seeing a planet enough to be able to tell what is on it and how it is made up. All we can tell is "there's something there in the Goldilocks Zone so, eh, maybe." And even if we can/could see planets we certainly wouldn't be able to see ones in other galaxies, which is where we're told the Garganutan System was.
I understand that we can't see a planet surrounding Gargantua due to it being in another galaxy. I also understand that texoplanets we have seen that might be in that zone.. well we don't know for sure if they can support life. However, there is more to science than just seeing them, and I believe that even today we can make educated guesses based on a myriad of data that will tell us if those planets are likely to support life. Hell, Nasa even hires artists to draw what they think the planets look like, and they aren't inteded to be fantasiy illustrations, but illustrations that are instead based all that evidence and data that we have. Surely when the Endurance crossed over the wormhole, theyd be able (even with todays' technology) make a survey of thee planets. If they can't they can send probles down from orbit, without risking down there. Surely once they saw how inhospitable Miller and Mann's planets were they wouldn't risk the "time" to go down there to simply retrieve some data recorders.
On a separate note: did anyone else catch the little joke in the baseball scene about hot dogs? I think this scene was meant to be a little tip of the hat to a scene Lithgow had in 2010 about having hot dogs at Yankee stadium.
You can (if conditions are right) observe the spectrum shift as an exoplanet passes in front of its host star and analyze the atmosphere content that way.
http://www.universetoday.com/92962/how-well-can-astronomers-study-exoplanet-atmospheres/
Obviously this situation is quite different in that the system may or may not be fully visible through the wormhole aperture (the view through the sphere seemed to show more open space rather than recognizable features of the Gargantua system itself). They seemed to have some vague understanding of the system and Gargantua, but few details about the other side of the looking glass, as it were. Of course, that was for the dramatic purpose of giving them a mystery to explore and solve.
I think the mission wasn't really the point. I think the mission was just an anecdote for the idiom "shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land among the stars". The whole thing with retrocausality, mcconaughey saying humans need to explore, and cain saying we are meant to leave this earth, all just goes with the theme of the film. And in the end, humans essentially did just that. They didn't find a new earth, but they did colonize space. That's typically where the science failed, when they wanted to hammer home the metaphysics.