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INTERSTELLAR - Grading & Discussion

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I thought it was just beautiful. I became teary eyed multiple times. Probably the best "blockbuster" I've seen in a long time.

Oh, yeah. When he was watching the videos from his kids after being gone 23 years, when he separated from the Endurance...

:wah:

Absolutely. And his facial expression as he drove away from the farm the last time, all twisted, dear God. What an actor.

Agreed. Another moving scene.

So was the scene in Murphy's bedroom before he left.

I love the combo of heart and sci-fi. I thought this was just a wonderful movie.

Try explaining the Pre-Destination Paradox to a 12 year old!!

:lol:
 
I've heard it said that Nolan's films are cold, but I've never seen it. After this film, I can't possibly imagine people saying that.
 
The biggest distinction between Interstellar and 2001 is the emotional element. We care about the characters of Interstellar. The events depicted onscreen are painted with very human colour that underpins why the characters do what they do. The principles driving the characters are easily graspable and relatable rather than pure abtracts.
It's very tough to mix hard sci fi with weepy mellow drama of a family member leaving. It's not like peanut butter and jelly where you can slop them together and it's gonna work. If the combination (and amount of each of these elements) pleased you, that is good to hear. But 2001 shalln't be surpassed, because Kubric dedicated himself to making a hard sci fi, to film the entire movie as if we are looking at humans as if in a fishbowl, and treat the subject with some detachment. Deliberately so, the most emotional part of the movie was the change in Bowman's rate of breathing as he deals with the crisis involving HaL (and this is a brilliant bit of acting). Indeed, even in a early scene where Floyd's speaks to his daughter on a video telephone from the space station, we never feel an emotion form this. It comes across as generic and flat, and I have no doubt it was intended to come across that ways despite a good performance from the cute little girl.

I do agree that Interstellar's "love conquers all" or "love is quantifiable" will burden the movie down and keep it from being a classic. It's a weepy affair. It also has just as much bad science as good science, just as many thrills as it does lapses in common sense. I admire Nolan's ambition, but in this case, he was too ambitious, and there are a lot of misses here.
 
I disagree, I think science and fiction DO go together like peanut butter and jelly, hence the genre. Some people prefer more peanut butter, some more jelly, but no matter how you use those elements in combination, it's still a pretty darn good sandwich. You need the hard science as well as the emotional human element to really tell a great sci fi story. Otherwise, you might as well pick up a text book.
 
One thing I did really enjoy about the movie was the robots. They were the most bizarre looking contraptions I've ever seen but looked completely real. And they had human like personalities but didn't go crazy or betray the crew or anything and were completely willing to sacrifice themselves to save humans. The crew treated them like friends but also didn't blink at tossing them away if needed.

Was I the only one that thought Matt Damon voiced the main robot? I was shocked when I read the credits. I'm starting to think my theater had a really bad focus AND sound because I often had trouble understanding dialogue and half the shots were blurry...
 
The absence of Wally Pfister made Interstellar feel not quite like a Nolan movie. Don't get me wrong, it was pretty to look at, but Pfister had this unique aesthetic that made Van Hoytema's cinematography feel a bit generic in comparison.

Also, the resolution was a disappointment, unimaginative and quite frankly lazy. Humans from the future meddling with humans from the present whilst initially being mistaken for aliens has already been done. In some really bad movies and tv shows too.

All in all, Interstellar was OK, but by Nolan's standards definitely sub-par.
 
I've heard it said that Nolan's films are cold, but I've never seen it. After this film, I can't possibly imagine people saying that.

This was utterly soulless. Very very cold, which was a shame as it tried so hard to be emotional and failed. Utterly.

Also, the resolution was a disappointment, unimaginative and quite frankly lazy. Humans from the future meddling with humans from the present whilst initially being mistaken for aliens has already been done. In some really bad movies and tv shows too.

All in all, Interstellar was OK, but by Nolan's standards definitely sub-par.

All true, except that for me, most Nolan films fall short.

Well, I saw it, and the fairest review I can give it is a decent film I didn't really like.

Yes, it owes a debt to 2001, but it probably owes more to a lot of good scifi stories I've read decades ago which have all jumbled together in my memory. It felt familiar.

The film was a pretty hard take on scifi, which is nice. That sort of thing doesn't make it onto screen very often (I really don't count Gravity) and the (pleasingly non CG) effects were pretty good apart from one establishing shot of Saturn.

I didn't particularly like the plot or the cast. I'm not fond of Caine although he wasn't bad in this. I don't like John Lithgow in anything I've seen him in and I know Matthew McConaughey is supposed to be good, but I didn't enjoy his performance.

My biggest problem was, however, that for a film that was supposed to be themed around the sacrifice of love and family, it was a vastly cold and unemotional experience failing completely to engage or resonate.

I gave a B- and that was probably a little generous.

I've had 24 hours to digest it. It was generous - it's actually more like a 'C', but I've already voted...
 
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I disagree, I think science and fiction DO go together like peanut butter and jelly, hence the genre. Some people prefer more peanut butter, some more jelly, but no matter how you use those elements in combination, it's still a pretty darn good sandwich. You need the hard science as well as the emotional human element to really tell a great sci fi story. Otherwise, you might as well pick up a text book.
No, you don't need both. And if you do use both in your story, you can't just slop them together. They have to be in must the right combination. That's why 2001 is considered a classic. That's why you'll find more people scratching their heads or just plain hating on the "love transcends time and space" ending of Interstellar when they were ready to enjoy the film. Even a true story like Apollo 13, - a movie for which I would not cut a single frame - I found myself far more interested (and I'm just talking me personally here) in what was happening on the spacecraft and at mission control than I was following Lovell's wife as she cried at home. Again this is the internet, and someone is going to say "but her scenes are the point of the movie," so let me say again that I would never cut a single frame from the film and I feel that the emotional aspects of her story were balanced as well as they could be with the other stuff, I just found that the reason I would watch the film again is the other stuff, and (only on repeat viewings) much of her story isn't quite as interesting.

2010 did a relatively good job of mixing these things together. I think Nolan had definitely considered that film at least as much as its predecessor when making Interstellar (I mentioned Lithgow seemed to have a scene in Interstellar that was a callback to a moment in 2010) but if that film had gone into "Love not only transcends time and space but it will get me home" then no one would be liking it.
 
Isn't it funny how the main topic in media outlets is the accuracy (or lack of) of the science in the movie!? What other movie is held to this standard? Inspect anything closely enough you'll find problems with it.
 
Agreeing with David Brin!

David Brin


1 min ·

Just watched INTERSTELLAR in an IMAX theater. I am so glad I did not read any of the cynical snarks offered by so may of you fellows. You are s-o-o-o-o sick. Tis was by far the best work of cinema I have seen in the 21st Century. Could I have found excuses to quibble and snipe and cynically cavil? Sure. I know the science better and also the art… and maybe I would have made a few helpful suggestions…
… and I told that inner reflex to "Shut The Heck Up!" Christopher Nolan is the best thing to happen to cinema since Steven Spielberg, only Nolan cares even MORE about science and consistency than even Spielberg ever did. And I would have to be a churlish idiot to turn down his offer of a spectacularly moving and wondrous and utterly inspiring experience.
Seriously you guys out there with your snark reflex. Get… some… help. You are part of what's gone wrong with us all.
The rest of you, get out there and get folks to watch this fantastic film. We need this. Be proud of what we can be.

My top 15 SF movies of the decade so far:

2010s:

1. Interstellar(2014)
2. Transcendence(2014)
3. Inception(2010)
4. Edge of Tomorrow(2014)
5. Pacific Rim(2013)
6. Star Trek: Into Darkness(2013)
7. Europa Report(2013)
8. Man of Steel(2013)
9. Oblivion(2013)f
10. Her(2013)
11. X-Men: Days of Future Past(2014)
12. Guardians of the Galaxy(2014)
13. Looper(2012)
14. Tron:Legacy(2010)
15. The Adjustment Bureau(2011)

A disclaimer, I have yet to see a few SF movies from this year... Lucy and Zero Theorem are next on my list. Just saw the Signal, thought it was OK. Interstellar will be hard to beat.

RAMA
 
Can anyone please explain how that rocket can take off from NASA without, like, destroying the conference room where they spoke about Wormholes and Saturn? I mean the rocket was not on the vehicle to be moved anywhere, and it was right next to that conference room (note when Michael Cain opened the door)
 
yeah that confused me as well. they opened the wall to the conference room and the rocket was RIGHT THERE :lol:

also it was sure was convenient that Cooper lived in the middle of nowhere yet was about an hour's drive away from the super secret NASA base...
 
Can anyone please explain how that rocket can take off from NASA without, like, destroying the conference room where they spoke about Wormholes and Saturn? I mean the rocket was not on the vehicle to be moved anywhere, and it was right next to that conference room (note when Michael Cain opened the door)

I had assumed they were assembling it there, not launching it from there...??

I think a lot of those interior scenes were filmed at the Bonaventure Hotel in Los Angeles. I've stayed there many times, and recognize the circular walkways and the oval pods which stick out from the inner frame.
 
I thought they were saying that the big circular structure we saw them working in was the space station they were going to launch into orbit if they could only solve the gravity equation.
 
yeah that confused me as well. they opened the wall to the conference room and the rocket was RIGHT THERE :lol:

also it was sure was convenient that Cooper lived in the middle of nowhere yet was about an hour's drive away from the super secret NASA base...
Star Trek First Contact did this well. Sure, the rocket was right near the settlement, but it was in the silo underground. Sure, under most circumstances it's not a good idea to live near a missile silo but this was the desperate future. The director also inserted a few shots before liftoff of them preparing for the launch and it showed a few large doors being closed.

I recently watched the first trailer for Interstellar, the teaser a year before release. I find it oddly disconnected from the film thematically. The trailer, on its own, seems to be making the point about where we are now, that we lost our drive to venture into the unknown, but the film is set in the future, where it would be utterly impractical to go off into the unknown - and if there hadn't been a worm hole it would have been. Maybe some would say that it's impractical now to venture into space, but the trailer seems to somehow hit these themes differently from the film. I actually think that above-mentioned First Contact hits these themes even better. There is an efficiency with the scenes regarding Cochran in that movie, and it makes me feel that Nolan should be more ruthless when writing and editing (not film editing but script editing) his characters.. because you can have a lot of emotion, but you can still give the script a bit more punch with more focused writing.
 
I do agree that Interstellar's "love conquers all" or "love is quantifiable" will burden the movie down and keep it from being a classic. It's a weepy affair. It also has just as much bad science as good science, just as many thrills as it does lapses in common sense. I admire Nolan's ambition, but in this case, he was too ambitious, and there are a lot of misses here.

I don't have a problem with Nolan's "ambition" so much. It's just the fact that he packed the movie full of so many contrivances and high-concept scifi gimmicks that it just strained the credibility to the breaking point.

It would have been enough just to have the wormhole that mysteriously appeared by Saturn, or the strange time dimension at the end. But no, he's also got gravity equations in there, and inter-dimensional ghost aliens and psychotic astronauts and circular space station farms and love as an actual force of nature...

It almost felt more like a mashup of crazy Brannon Braga storylines from VOY than a look at a real, believable human future.

As I said before, I still found the movie entertaining as hell from start to finish. I'm just not sure I believed a minute of what was actually happening.
 
Agreeing with David Brin!

David Brin


1 min ·

Just watched INTERSTELLAR in an IMAX theater. I am so glad I did not read any of the cynical snarks offered by so may of you fellows. You are s-o-o-o-o sick. Tis was by far the best work of cinema I have seen in the 21st Century. Could I have found excuses to quibble and snipe and cynically cavil? Sure. I know the science better and also the art… and maybe I would have made a few helpful suggestions…
… and I told that inner reflex to "Shut The Heck Up!" Christopher Nolan is the best thing to happen to cinema since Steven Spielberg, only Nolan cares even MORE about science and consistency than even Spielberg ever did. And I would have to be a churlish idiot to turn down his offer of a spectacularly moving and wondrous and utterly inspiring experience.
Seriously you guys out there with your snark reflex. Get… some… help. You are part of what's gone wrong with us all.
The rest of you, get out there and get folks to watch this fantastic film. We need this. Be proud of what we can be.
RAMA
I can't agree with Brin.

I'm not fond of most of Nolan's films and I'm not fond of most of Spielberg's either...
 
Isn't it funny how the main topic in media outlets is the accuracy (or lack of) of the science in the movie!? What other movie is held to this standard?

Gravity, last year.

For a film's science to be discussed and critiqued seriously is a compliment, whether that's how the critic intended it or not. Few bother to go out of their way to point out the scientific inaccuracies in most genre movies because they're expected. The fact that the scientific in/accuracies of this film are getting so much attention is a testament to that fact that audiences, critics, and scientists recognize and appreciate that the film strove to be more than the average genre film. It might not have achieved the (unrealistically) complete accuracy some demand, but it at least made a major effort. The fact that it can be used to broaden understanding and encourage further study of relativity/time dilation and wormholes/black holes through using it as a teaching tool or pointing out its mistakes is a good thing, not a bad one.

People who get upset at Neil DeGrasse Tyson's tweets about this (which he's been very positive about) and Gravity, for instance, should keep in mind that he's trying to use popular culture to increase the layman's understanding of physics and to make complex scientific issues relatable to the general audience. Teacher frequently use scifi movies as teaching tools for students as a gateway to gain their interest before hitting the harder subject matter.

Can anyone please explain how that rocket can take off from NASA without, like, destroying the conference room where they spoke about Wormholes and Saturn? I mean the rocket was not on the vehicle to be moved anywhere, and it was right next to that conference room (note when Michael Cain opened the door)

The remnant of NASA in the film was based out of the nuclear bunker of the former NORAD command center under Cheyenne Mountain (it's still maintained as an alternate command center), so the conference room door would be a hardened steel door anchored into the surrounding rock roughly similar to the one below and the entire room would be on shock absorbing springs. It was designed to survive several hits from multi-megaton nuclear warheads, so the rocket blast would be child's play by comparison, especially with vents directing the bulk of the thrust away from the room. I just figured Nolan was a fan of Hugo Drax's killer conference room under a launchpad from Moonraker (see bottom). NORAD makes sense as a base of operations for NASA once the military collapses due to its being the home of US Space Command and already set up to monitor spacecraft and incursions into North American airspace (which could be used to pick up the gravitational anomalies).

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Also it was sure was convenient that Cooper lived in the middle of nowhere yet was about an hour's drive away from the super secret NASA base...

Convenient or by design? The future humans were using the gravity waves in the atmosphere to communicate with NASA, and likely directed them to NORAD in Colorado Springs which is within a day of where Coop and Murph --who they knew solved the gravity equation that allowed for the mass evacuation of Earth if you believe in a bootstrap paradox-- lived.

There were cornfields and dust bowls, which implies a midwest setting, Coop's farm was within a day's drive of Colorado Springs, which suggests eastern Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, or Northern New Mexico. There were also mountains in the background of the farm, probably the foothills of the Rockies.

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I thought they were saying that the big circular structure we saw them working in was the space station they were going to launch into orbit if they could only solve the gravity equation.

It was.

My guess is they started building it in the existing hollowed out portions of Cheyenne Mountain and then excavated the rest of the mountain as they went on to provide aggregate for use in the concrete forming the interior superstructure of the station, and to eventually leave a hole in the roof for the ship/station to launch out of.
 
I gave it an A-. Good mix of hard science and very human characters. Definitely the best Nolan film. I rate it with Fury and Zero Dark Thirty as the best films of the last ten years.
 
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