Star Wars Rebels Season One (spoilers)
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Have we ever seen Stormtrooper armor actually resist a blast? Every time I know of that we see a Stormtrooper hit by a blaster, they fall instantly. Heck, that armor doesn't even resist arrows fired by tiny little Ewok bows. A good silk shirt could repel arrows like that. The only thing Stormtrooper armor is actually good for is dehumanizing the troopers so that it's easier for audiences to accept the good guys killing them en masse.
Not entirely nothing, but very little.
http://starwarsrebels.wikia.com/wiki/Empire_Day
"A refugee of the Empire seeks the Rebels’ help to get off the planet with important information."
http://starwarsrebels.wikia.com/wiki/Gathering_Forces
"To protect the Imp deserter, Kanan & Ezra attempt to distract the pursuing Imperial forces, resulting in a confrontation."
Well to be fair, the Stormtroopers did manage to take over the Tantive IV pretty quickly, and kill quite a few rebels in the process. And they had no problem shooting Luke's parents and a bunch of Jawas. And taking over the base on Hoth, and Bespin...
It's only when they come in direct contact with our heroes that they suddenly forget how to shoot straight and become completely useless.
It's only when they come in direct contact with our heroes that they suddenly forget how to shoot straight and become completely useless.
Wow, thanks, that info wasn't on that page last night!
Sounds like a bit of a two-parter, no? Sounds very Lothal-centric.
The deserter can't be Jai, can it? I assumed that 'returning him to his mother' off the grid from the Empire took place off screen.
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I think a lot of the lack of discussion stems from people seeing episodes at wildly different times. One person will watch an episode on iTunes the week before it airs, another will see it On Demand two days later, and someone else will only be able to see it Monday nights at 9 on DisneyXD for its "premiere" broadcast. And taking DVR viewing into account, others won't see an episode until long after that.
With Clone Wars, I think all of us were limited to the same initial exposure (Saturday mornings/Friday nights) to an episode and so most of us were generally on the same page. If we hadn't seen that week's show, we knew to avoid threads like this if we wanted to stay "spoiler-free."
With Rebels, a casual viewer can enter this thread and find that we've already talked for pages about an episode that doesn't air until tonight at 9pm. I'd say this discourages many posters from joining/reading this and other threads about Rebels simply due to confusion.
Until Disney tightens up their distribution of this show to a more narrow release window, discussion of this series will continue to be scattershot and unfocused for this thread and others like it.
Well to be fair, the Stormtroopers did manage to take over the Tantive IV pretty quickly, and kill quite a few rebels in the process. And they had no problem shooting Luke's parents and a bunch of Jawas. And taking over the base on Hoth, and Bespin...
It's only when they come in direct contact with our heroes that they suddenly forget how to shoot straight and become completely useless.
The troopers stationed on the Star Destroyer Devastator were Vader's troops (now considered to be the 501st), thus these were the only really good stormtroopers due to them having experiance. Sometimes considered to be the last unit that used Jango-based clone troopers over drafted people and other clones.
The ones stationed on the Death Star? Maybe 501st, but probably not all of them. The ones on Hoth were probably some 501st with Vader. The remainder on Endor? IF the 501st was there as the Emperor's best legion, than they have gotten worse as the last of the old Clones aged out (or the losses on the first Death Star were never recoverable in terms of skilled troopers lost).
Well to be fair, the Stormtroopers did manage to take over the Tantive IV pretty quickly, and kill quite a few rebels in the process. And they had no problem shooting Luke's parents and a bunch of Jawas. And taking over the base on Hoth, and Bespin...
It's only when they come in direct contact with our heroes that they suddenly forget how to shoot straight and become completely useless.
It might be on most planets only bullets can be found--and the armor is only good for those.
I like the retro approach.
I wonder if anyone has ever classified and compared laser swords. Thundarr's sun sword against a light sabre...
<<I loved how the scissor effect of Star Destroyers conjured up an image of the meditation chamber Vader used in ESB. >>
They showed Star Destroyers scissoring and it was rated G?
The Star Destroyers here look to make simpler toys. They almost have the Enterprise refit type of paneling..I wonder if they are a bit smaller...
That was supposed to be David Niven right?
Well, yes and no. To go cross genre I can see Dr. McCoy hating it and the causual amputations as being in contrast to what Jedi stand for. The small squares we saw that simply blinded opponents from Ark II are more Jedi-like to my sensibilities...
If I had to do Star Wars from the start, only Sith would use them, until the Jedi were forced to pick them up.
Armor that's useless against Ewok arrows would be even more useless against bullets.
I think so, yes. Although it was Brent Spiner doing the voice.
Kind of. We've seen Stormtroopers shrugging off shots from Ezra's goofy wrist slingshot.
I doubt Ezra's "slingshot" is meant to be any more lethal than the genuine article (although those things can be dangerous).
At least their armor is good for something.
Speaking of armor, it was interesting to discover in tonight's episode that at least some forms of Stormtrooper helmet have retractable visors -- but contrived that the only cadets who ever took their helmets off were the three main speaking characters. Well, there was one other speaking cadet, the rival to the main three, but his face was never seen. I was wondering if it would turn out he was someone significant whose face was hidden for a reason, but as I suspected, the only reason was evidently that they couldn't afford to render more faces.
Nice continuity with the effects of the Kyber/Kaiburr crystal from the unfinished Clone Wars episodes. How many of these big, really powerful crystals are there, though? We can infer from the TCW episodes that the Death Star planet-killer laser was powered by one, and the one found in those episodes was supposed to be incredibly rare. But here they had and lost another one just five years before the Death Star went online? It is five years, right?
Also, if Ezra enrolled in a military academy, why the heck didn't they make him cut his hair?
Nice continuity with the effects of the Kyber/Kaiburr crystal from the unfinished Clone Wars episodes. How many of these big, really powerful crystals are there, though? We can infer from the TCW episodes that the Death Star planet-killer laser was powered by one, and the one found in those episodes was supposed to be incredibly rare. But here they had and lost another one just five years before the Death Star went online? It is five years, right?
Also, if Ezra enrolled in a military academy, why the heck didn't they make him cut his hair?
Gotta admit I'm quite fond of the new Gozanti-class cruisers. Nice to have a new medium sized Imperial combat ship in universe. And having a TIE escort slung underneath is a neat touch.
He was certainly a dead ringer. Not someone most of the shows young audience would recognize.
He was certainly a dead ringer. Not someone most of the shows young audience would recognize.
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So am I the only one who was kinda hoping, when the officer promised they would get a ride on an "Imperial Walker", that he was referring to an actual AT-AT? I've never really associated the term with the chicken walker AT-STs before, so I was a little bummed that it simply ended up being one of those instead.
Maybe the AT-AT isn't in service yet. It is about eight years before the Battle on Hoth.
As for arrows in stormtrooper armor. Was there any actually penetrating the plastoid parts? I seem to recall only a few scout troopers with arrows in them, or arrows in the black body glove parts (neck for instance) during Endor.
As for arrows in stormtrooper armor. Was there any actually penetrating the plastoid parts? I seem to recall only a few scout troopers with arrows in them, or arrows in the black body glove parts (neck for instance) during Endor.
It was strongly implied in the unfinished TCW episodes that were released online a month or two ago. Anakin and Obi-Wan stopped the Separatists from getting their hands on a really huge crystal that they were planning to use in a superweapon, and I think we were shown at the end that Count Dooku had been planning to use it for the Death Star. So presumably they delayed the construction of that weapon by a number of years. (Ironic, given Anakin's future identity as Darth Vader.)
5 years Before the Battle of Yavin (5 BBY) as they say.
As to the giant crystals, I'd read a few days ago somewhere that the big slabs were the result of a technique known to generate artificial kaiburr crystals. It was also supposedly the way Luke was able to generate a green one to build a new lightsaber between ESB and ROTJ (having found instructions in Obi Wan's hut on Tattooine). The new green lightsaber generated a different sounding hiss from the blue one when activated, which I have never noticed. Anyone, for the giant crystal I guess the empire cooks them up, they must have a galactic Walter White on staff somewhere.
My guess is that the mysterious contact is
Ahsoka.
These unfinished TCW eps are excellent. I highly recommend for anyone who hasn't checked them out yet, especially in light of the crystals and their recent inclusion in Star Wars Rebels. I'm gonna go ahead and slap these links down right here and now in the hopes that people check them right out.
Crystal Crisis on Utapau (story reels)
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4FoXJQE08&list=PL9aoYKdAk-INtLXRhppxuY_Q1Qp6c0ng-
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCcYMNC4wQ&list=PL9aoYKdAk-INtLXRhppxuY_Q1Qp6c0ng-
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZrsVx1dpEQ&index=3&list=PL9aoYKdAk-INtLXRhppxuY_Q1Qp6c0ng-
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAe5Ogs6a-c&index=4&list=PL9aoYKdAk-INtLXRhppxuY_Q1Qp6c0ng-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4FoXJQE08&list=PL9aoYKdAk-INtLXRhppxuY_Q1Qp6c0ng-
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