DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)
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Never read 'em... I mean a one-off story like that is fine, but when they pretend like it's going to be something important but it's not is what annoys me. Like the "Age of X" thing they did with the X-Men a couple years ago. Or "House of M" (the consequences came from the ending not from the alternate reality). Or the endless alt-Earths we've been seeing in New Avengers lately.
Most notably, this entire "five years later" thing DC is doing. The entire point of rebooting the continuity was to de-age the characters. They're not going to just add on five years to their age three years after the reboot. And all this stuff with Earth-2... it's all a what-if story. This is not the continuity that Snyder's Batman or Johns' Justice League is in.
The very notable exception, of course, is Age of Apocalypse. That was awesome
Most notably, this entire "five years later" thing DC is doing. The entire point of rebooting the continuity was to de-age the characters. They're not going to just add on five years to their age three years after the reboot. And all this stuff with Earth-2... it's all a what-if story. This is not the continuity that Snyder's Batman or Johns' Justice League is in.
The very notable exception, of course, is Age of Apocalypse. That was awesome
Never read 'em... I mean a one-off story like that is fine, but when they pretend like it's going to be something important but it's not is what annoys me. Like the "Age of X" thing they did with the X-Men a couple years ago. Or "House of M" (the consequences came from the ending not from the alternate reality). Or the endless alt-Earths we've been seeing in New Avengers lately.
Most notably, this entire "five years later" thing DC is doing. The entire point of rebooting the continuity was to de-age the characters. They're not going to just add on five years to their age three years after the reboot. And all this stuff with Earth-2... it's all a what-if story. This is not the continuity that Snyder's Batman or Johns' Justice League is in.
The very notable exception, of course, is Age of Apocalypse. That was awesome
No. Earth 2 isn't a what if story. It's actually happening. In the Multiverse. They are different versions, but it's all in the continuity of the larger DC universe.
I get what you're saying, I disagree about where it is in the mainstream. it's not the "prime" Earth.
It's to bad... Earth 2 was one of the better books of the nu52. I was a little sad they were retiring the WW2 versions of the Flash, Green Lantern, etc, but, man, the new Earth 2 was great because they could truly upset the status quo. Stories could have consequences because they weren't beholden to always have Bruce Wayne be Batman, Clark Kent be Superman.
DC has announced it's moving project for next spring. I'm still not that interested in it.
http://www.newsarama.com/22619-conv...s-april-2015-event-a-crisis-of-champions.html
http://www.newsarama.com/22619-conv...s-april-2015-event-a-crisis-of-champions.html
I long ago stopped getting excited over any events done by the big two cause too many ended up being poorly crafted and/or not being relevant 18months later after being told how "Big and stretching the ramifications would be".
I long for a series to have 2&3 issue story arcs once again that have a simmering subplot with supporting characters and/or villains(re:Hobgoblin for example) and not be unnecessarily interrupted with the alleged next "big thing".
I will say on some level Moon Knight, Punisher, Black Widow and TMNT are successfully filling that niche for me right now.
I long for a series to have 2&3 issue story arcs once again that have a simmering subplot with supporting characters and/or villains(re:Hobgoblin for example) and not be unnecessarily interrupted with the alleged next "big thing".
I will say on some level Moon Knight, Punisher, Black Widow and TMNT are successfully filling that niche for me right now.
Might be fun to see some "old friends" again.
^ You'd think that would be the selling point for me. However, the talent behind this has turned me off. This is nothing more than filler for two months so no real reason for me to check it out. Maybe if it gets good reviews or something...but for now I'm not interested.
This Convergence of Champions takes up 2 months, April & May. A title gets breather for Nov-Mar for an arc then this.
So any ongoing title then has 3 months, June-August, for a story before DC does some huge September gimmick again. A title just can't grow a character, let alone it's support cast with nothing but event, after event after event. It's tiring, from both of the Big 2.
Azzarello's run on WW is one of the few examples, Johns Aquaman another, that had time to be disconnected and grow away from one gimmicky event after the next.
So any ongoing title then has 3 months, June-August, for a story before DC does some huge September gimmick again. A title just can't grow a character, let alone it's support cast with nothing but event, after event after event. It's tiring, from both of the Big 2.
Azzarello's run on WW is one of the few examples, Johns Aquaman another, that had time to be disconnected and grow away from one gimmicky event after the next.
Snyder's Batman run.
Last night I read Swamp Thing Annual #3 and Justice League Dark Annual #2.
I enjoyed both, Swamp Thing perhaps a bit more. Like how Capucine's story seemingly wrapped up. She's had a bit of a redemption arc and now as part of the Green could conceivably come back, even in another form, one day.
As for JLD, I liked how the House of Mystery and House of Secrets were seemingly infected and the supernatural virus manifested as opposing entities actually working together. Who them pitted Zee & Constantine against each other with separate teams all members of former JLD missions. Then the House of Wonder is birthed and destroyed but I'm unclear if in that destruction the original Houses can be reformed or not. Are the HoM and HoS both destroyed for good? That's the only thing I felt that was left hanging.
I enjoyed both, Swamp Thing perhaps a bit more. Like how Capucine's story seemingly wrapped up. She's had a bit of a redemption arc and now as part of the Green could conceivably come back, even in another form, one day.
As for JLD, I liked how the House of Mystery and House of Secrets were seemingly infected and the supernatural virus manifested as opposing entities actually working together. Who them pitted Zee & Constantine against each other with separate teams all members of former JLD missions. Then the House of Wonder is birthed and destroyed but I'm unclear if in that destruction the original Houses can be reformed or not. Are the HoM and HoS both destroyed for good? That's the only thing I felt that was left hanging.
I did a self high five as I realized that Justice League 3000 was crossing over with Camelot 3000.
Batman #36: another perfect issue. I had no recollection of this character that was revealed, did anyone else? Still, great reveal! I dig go dig up Batman Annual 2 and re-read it after I saw this; I recall reading it at the time and being very bored by it; much more interesting now
'Nuff said, really.
There is no doubt about it. We are witnessing one of the greatest runs on the character in his entire 75 year history.
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