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The Flash - Season 1

So are we just going to have to accept then move on that every single time the Flash confronts anybody, he has to blast in there in the blink of an eye, stop to talk to them, let them get the advantage because he stopped to talk to them, then save the day after remembering he's the flash and faster than everybody?

Why didn't Barry take the gun from Cold right away in the train and THEN have his dramatic stand there and talk moment? I know there would be no show if it was this easy, but then that's something the writers should probably be figuring out before they constantly make him appear this dumb. Stop showing him moving at impossibly crazy high speeds for comedy bits would probably be a good start so that we wouldn't be comparing to how slow he does everything else when it matters.
 
^You're just going to have to get used to it. Super speed is a game breaking power that removes all tension from a story if used as it could be.
 
Well Barry is still inexperienced enough that I think they can still get away with that for the time being. But by season two or three it might be a lot harder to buy.

At least with normal human beings like Captain Cold. For the metahumans I think you could argue that they might have faster reflexes to go along with their other supernatural abilities, and so Barry can't quite get the upper hand as easily with them.
 
The discussion reminds me of this:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGR06dlPf0[/yt]

:lol:

If a real speedster existed somehow, I guess the most realistic way to use his powers on his environment would be to manipulate everything a little bit in his favor instead of killing people by accelerating them instantly to "save" them.

The Quicksilver scene in the prison break in DoFP comes to mind.

And even that ignores the problem with the heros own vulnerability to heat, kinetic impacts of dust and molecules and the air currents he would cause... :)
 
All this talk about the Producer's saying that Wells isn't an existing character... um, they could be LYING, you know. Or at the very least, being misleading...

Again, another excellent episode. AND, I like that Barry and Felicity didn't get together... and I like the reason why-- their hearts are for someone else. Sure, they have good chemistry, but... frankly, I don't want Barry being happy now. Happy is not exactly dramatically interesting. And if they get together... then there will be a lot of Barry saving Felicity episodes.

Also: no one has mentioned the Martian Manhunter reference? NO ONE? Wow. I thought it would be all over this board. Though... it IS very subtle.
 
I love how the set design of the Central City Police Station -- the Art Deco styling and typeface, the prominent wall mural -- evokes the design sensibilities of the '90 Flash series. I think that's got to be deliberate.

Over on Blastr.com, they have a piece about the designer of this set and his influences.

That giant wall mural, it turns out, is the Justice League thinly disguised as the Greek Pantheon! The article features a pretty nice photo of the mural and it's incredible.
 
Given the pattern already established by the PtBs of showing the origins of the characters they use, I'd be real surprised if Eddie turns out to already be the Reverse Flash (provided, of course, that that's the direction his character goes in).
We've already seen Professor Zoom in full regalia and using his powers openly. He certainly hasn't had an origin told yet, and if Edward Thawne is Professor Zoom (as opposed to becoming him), they can still tell his origin story at a later time. Especially since if he's even remotely related to the comic book character, he's from the future to begin with -- which, thanks to time travel being a part of the show already, is definitely viable.

I mean, he's here, he managed to become Barry's surrogate father's partner, and he hit on and has started dating his future love interest. The chances of that just being coincidence far exceeds the chances of him actually already being Professor Zoom. Doubly so since Zoom's already showed an interest in manipulating Barry's life (by killing his mother).
 
Given the pattern already established by the PtBs of showing the origins of the characters they use, I'd be real surprised if Eddie turns out to already be the Reverse Flash (provided, of course, that that's the direction his character goes in).
We've already seen Professor Zoom in full regalia and using his powers openly. He certainly hasn't had an origin told yet, and if Edward Thawne is Professor Zoom (as opposed to becoming him), they can still tell his origin story at a later time. Especially since if he's even remotely related to the comic book character, he's from the future to begin with -- which, thanks to time travel being a part of the show already, is definitely viable.

I mean, he's here, he managed to become Barry's surrogate father's partner, and he hit on and has started dating his future love interest. The chances of that just being coincidence far exceeds the chances of him actually already being Professor Zoom. Doubly so since Zoom's already showed an interest in manipulating Barry's life (by killing his mother).

I think the Eddie we are seeing on the show as West's partner, if anything, is a pre-villian version of the character. Nothing in the way he has been presented so far indicates that he is living a lie to put himself in Barry's life. In fact, the way it plays now, Eddie has it pretty good, but Barry is going to take it all away from him. Not that it will be a malignant thing on Barry's part, but Eddie will see it that way and earn his enmity.
 
If Wells was willing to kill Stagg to "protect" Barry. Why hasn't he done anything about Eddie? Eddie would be a greater threat, wouldn't he?
 
Well presumably Wells could have put a stop to most of the villains they've encountered so far, thanks to his knowledge of the future. So it could be that he wants Barry to be put to the test and challenged by all these guys.
 
If Wells was willing to kill Stagg to "protect" Barry. Why hasn't he done anything about Eddie? Eddie would be a greater threat, wouldn't he?
Have the two even met yet? Thawne could be from a further future/different timeline than Wells for all we know, or his impact on Barry's life is part of what causes him to become who he is. Plus if Wells was busy taking out every threat to Barry, then there'd be no reason for Barry to be a superhero to begin with.
 
Well presumably Wells could have put a stop to most of the villains they've encountered so far, thanks to his knowledge of the future. So it could be that he wants Barry to be put to the test and challenged by all these guys.

Or maybe his knowledge is not comprehensive. After all, we've seen that at least one of his sources of knowledge about the Flash is a newspaper from ten years hence. None of the Flash's current exploits are making the papers; it's all still underground at this point. So maybe Wells just doesn't know the specifics of the events of the Flash's early career. After all, his attack on Stagg (I still have a hard time believing they'd kill off such a major DC archvillain) seemed to be provoked by the things Stagg was saying to him in the here and now, not by something Wells had foreknowledge of.
 
Well presumably Wells could have put a stop to most of the villains they've encountered so far, thanks to his knowledge of the future. So it could be that he wants Barry to be put to the test and challenged by all these guys.

Or maybe his knowledge is not comprehensive. After all, we've seen that at least one of his sources of knowledge about the Flash is a newspaper from ten years hence. None of the Flash's current exploits are making the papers; it's all still underground at this point. So maybe Wells just doesn't know the specifics of the events of the Flash's early career. After all, his attack on Stagg (I still have a hard time believing they'd kill off such a major DC archvillain) seemed to be provoked by the things Stagg was saying to him in the here and now, not by something Wells had foreknowledge of.

I don't think we have actually received clear indication that he is from the future, yet. All we know is that he can walk and he has a newspaper from the future. If he is HG Wells then he is actually from the past anyway.
 
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