5 Things We Want to See in the next Movie according to PopMech

[Commishsleer]

If they can't think of a way to write cameos properly in the movie, why not have an extended credits with all the Star Trek alumni who want to be there. They could say be scanning through the Starfleet Cafeteria at the end of the movie and you could see Janeway eating lunch with Q, Worf and T'Pol etc while credits are rolling.
A 50th anniversary special treat.

 

[bbjeg]

^Though I like the bunch, I wouldn't want to see that (well, maybe Q). I feel if Janeway went to the past, she'd try to fix what she could anyway (similar to Spock).

 

[Sector 7]

It also answered a question fans had about Spock's future knowledge. Now we know he's taken a vow not to reveal anything - unless it's especially huge.

Or he had a hooker off screen and just wanted to get Spock the hell off the phone.

How horrible of you, BillJ!! The proper term is "Pon Farr Counselor".

 

[bbjeg]

I wouldn't be surprised if Spock was developing the Vulcan equivalent of viagra. He's now part of an endangered species that needs repopulation.

 

[Spockkirk]

1.Seeing Strange new worlds and new creatures would be totally awesome to me.

2.More sweet romance moments for Spock and his girlfriend.

3.More devolpment of Kirk and Spock's friendship and saving each others lifes

4.More Dr.Mccoy

 

[CaptainMurdock]

1. Strange new world, no interactions or contact with Earth.
2. No villains or war with the Klingons. I wanna see the Enterprise encounter an alien entity.
3. Less Spock and Uhura and more Kirk, Spock and Bones.
4. More Bones.
5. More use of the Alexander Courage Trek theme besides in the ending credits.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Here is my five:

1. A good story that elevates Trek to a new level.

2. No cameos by previous Trek alumni. Let this Abramsverse crew stand on their own.

3. Uhura being a character not only defined by her relationship with Spock.

4. A villain/entity that isn't the Klingons or someone (or something) trying to destroy Earth.

This is a huge universe. Give us something other than the damn Klingons!

5. 'New life forms and new civilizations.' We need to see that in these new films.

 

[T'Girl]

2.More sweet romance moments for Spock and his girlfriend.

And absolutely no scenes involving nagging and whining about their "relationship."

If the next movie includes a featured character from a alien species, it will be a new one. And by "new one" I don't mean Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or others we've endlessly seen before.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

I wanna see Strange New Worlds and that's it. I'm sick of cameos and fan-service. I'm tired of women treated as little more than eye-candy. Klingons are tired (and are Romulans, etc., etc.). Space battles are less interesting than seeing the characters in physical action, and we're already seen the Enterprise get blown apart. It's already yawn inducing.

Haw many times must it be told to you-this is a space opera/action adventure franchise. It's not 2001 or Gravity, and making it that would just bore the audience to tears.

Because it bears repeating:

TMP) Somewhat cerebral. Mostly a 2001 knockoff. Illia in a ridiculously short skirt.
TWOK) Revenge. Explosions. Getting old. KHAAAAAAAN! A FUCK TON of Pew!Pew!
TSFS) GE-NE-SIS?! Kirk's son killed. Get out! Get out of there! Lots of Pew!Pew!
TVH) They are not the hell your whales. One damn minute, Admiral.
TFF) Three boobed cat stripper. Sha-ka-ree. Lots of Pew!Pew!
TUC) Racism. Cold War. Shakespeare. Lots of Pew!Pew!
GEN) Fantasy land. Duras Sisters. Enterprise go Boom. Lots of Pew!Pew!
FC) BOOM! Sweaty Borg. Sexual healing. Drunks. A METRIC FUCK TON of Pew!Pew!
INS) Face lift. Forced relocation. F. Murray Abraham on a couch. Lots of poorly paced Pew!Pew!
NEM) Dune buggy. Mentally deficient android. Slowly moving doom device. Lots of random Pew!Pew!

I have highlighted two of the most popular pre-JJ Trek movies in the fandom.
Trek was an action franchise from the second movie installment onward. To suggest otherwise is to completely ignore everything beyond The Motion Picture.

IF we can have a story with exploration in it that can be told within the bounds of a 2-hour movie, cool beans, But we have to balance that with the action-adventure part (and oh yeah, before I forget, many of the novels were [and are] like the movies, too.)

 

[M'Sharak]

I wanna see Strange New Worlds and that's it. I'm sick of cameos and fan-service. I'm tired of women treated as little more than eye-candy. Klingons are tired (and are Romulans, etc., etc.). Space battles are less interesting than seeing the characters in physical action, and we're already seen the Enterprise get blown apart. It's already yawn inducing.

Haw many times must it be told to you-this is a space opera/action adventure franchise. It's not 2001 or Gravity, and making it that would just bore the audience to tears.

Because it bears repeating:<snip>

Enough, Shaka.

Maurice is well aware of what kind of franchise Trek is and is not, has and has not been, and he doesn't require you 'Haw[sic] many times must it be told to you'-ing at him.

That sort of lecture/harangue is bad form, it's not your job, and besides I've asked you on more than one occasion to refrain from taking swipes at other posters. Now cut it out.

 

[robau]

I just want to see a financial transaction on earth. And no, a line like "her shot's on me" doesn't count. I want to see one person hand another person a card/microchip/iPhone 300/space bucks/WHATEVER.

 

[xavier]

2.More sweet romance moments for Spock and his girlfriend.

And absolutely no scenes involving nagging and whining about their "relationship."

If the next movie includes a featured character from a alien species, it will be a new one. And by "new one" I don't mean Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or others we've endlessly seen before.

Kirk nags a lot. why use nagging to defined the girl.in fact kirk nags so much that spock threw him of the enterprise for it. I find it kind of sexist that the term nagging is used to describe the men....not cool to me.

 

[Commishsleer]

2.More sweet romance moments for Spock and his girlfriend.

And absolutely no scenes involving nagging and whining about their "relationship."

If the next movie includes a featured character from a alien species, it will be a new one. And by "new one" I don't mean Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or others we've endlessly seen before.

Kirk nags a lot. why use nagging to defined the girl.in fact kirk nags so much that spock threw him of the enterprise for it. I find it kind of sexist that the term nagging is used to describe the men....not cool to me.

No nagging by either Kirk or Uhura.

 

[xavier]

And absolutely no scenes involving nagging and whining about their "relationship."

If the next movie includes a featured character from a alien species, it will be a new one. And by "new one" I don't mean Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, or others we've endlessly seen before.

Kirk nags a lot. why use nagging to defined the girl.in fact kirk nags so much that spock threw him of the enterprise for it. I find it kind of sexist that the term nagging is used to describe the men....not cool to me.

No nagging by either Kirk or Uhura.

they dont nag to me, they loose their temper because they are human who have to deal with a cool vulcan.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

I wanna see Strange New Worlds and that's it. I'm sick of cameos and fan-service. I'm tired of women treated as little more than eye-candy. Klingons are tired (and are Romulans, etc., etc.). Space battles are less interesting than seeing the characters in physical action, and we're already seen the Enterprise get blown apart. It's already yawn inducing.

Haw many times must it be told to you-this is a space opera/action adventure franchise. It's not 2001 or Gravity, and making it that would just bore the audience to tears.

Because it bears repeating:<snip>

Enough, Shaka.

Maurice is well aware of what kind of franchise Trek is and is not, has and has not been, and he doesn't require you 'Haw[sic] many times must it be told to you'-ing at him.

That sort of lecture/harangue is bad form, it's not your job, and besides I've asked you on more than one occasion to refrain from taking swipes at other posters. Now cut it out.

I apologize, but at the same time, I'm getting tired of this from him and others. It's been a while since 2009 (and a year after Into Darkness) and yet, people are going to keep saying the same thing? And wanting the same thing? There are fan productions that they can watch.

 

[fireproof78]

Kirk nags a lot. why use nagging to defined the girl.in fact kirk nags so much that spock threw him of the enterprise for it. I find it kind of sexist that the term nagging is used to describe the men....not cool to me.

No nagging by either Kirk or Uhura.

they dont nag to me, they loose their temper because they are human who have to deal with a cool vulcan.

I feel the same way. I like the unfolding relationship drama because it feels like a relationship to me. Its emotions and connections spilling out because some things need to be said.

I don't find it nagging, because I see human relationships unfolding. Kirk is very impulsive and emotional and loyal, all of these things to a fault, and it can come gushing out if he isn't being heard. With Spock, I think Kirk feels the need to prove himself, starting with the KM simulation. I think that interaction, how Spock goads Kirk, sets the tone for the beginning of their relationship, and moves on in to a mutual sort of respect, with a lot of teasing.

 

[Commishsleer]

No nagging by either Kirk or Uhura.

they dont nag to me, they loose their temper because they are human who have to deal with a cool vulcan.

I feel the same way. I like the unfolding relationship drama because it feels like a relationship to me. Its emotions and connections spilling out because some things need to be said.

I don't find it nagging, because I see human relationships unfolding. Kirk is very impulsive and emotional and loyal, all of these things to a fault, and it can come gushing out if he isn't being heard. With Spock, I think Kirk feels the need to prove himself, starting with the KM simulation. I think that interaction, how Spock goads Kirk, sets the tone for the beginning of their relationship, and moves on in to a mutual sort of respect, with a lot of teasing.

Seems to me like Kirk and Uhura feel like they need to say that Spock should be more human for them to like him.
So really how different are they from the bullies on Vulcan tormenting Spock because he isn't Vulcan enough?

I never get Uhura's problem with Spock. If she doesn't like him then she should get another boyfriend.

If Kirk wants a First Officer who lies on reports then he should get someone else. I don't think 'teasing' involves Kirk making racist remarks to Spock. Spock could just go to New Vulcan to live if he wanted to be 'teased' with racist remarks.

 

[fireproof78]

they dont nag to me, they loose their temper because they are human who have to deal with a cool vulcan.

I feel the same way. I like the unfolding relationship drama because it feels like a relationship to me. Its emotions and connections spilling out because some things need to be said.

I don't find it nagging, because I see human relationships unfolding. Kirk is very impulsive and emotional and loyal, all of these things to a fault, and it can come gushing out if he isn't being heard. With Spock, I think Kirk feels the need to prove himself, starting with the KM simulation. I think that interaction, how Spock goads Kirk, sets the tone for the beginning of their relationship, and moves on in to a mutual sort of respect, with a lot of teasing.

Seems to me like Kirk and Uhura feel like they need to say that Spock should be more human for them to like him.
So really how different are they from the bullies on Vulcan tormenting Spock because he isn't Vulcan enough?

I never get Uhura's problem with Spock. If she doesn't like him then she should get another boyfriend.

If Kirk wants a First Officer who lies on reports then he should get someone else. I don't think 'teasing' involves Kirk making racist remarks to Spock. Spock could just go to New Vulcan to live if he wanted to be 'teased' with racist remarks.

Uhura has concerns that her boyfriend would rather die and doesn't want to talk to her about it. That is a point of discussion in any relationship. I don't see it as unreasonable to not discuss the possibility of death on a Starfleet episode, but Spock is reporting a desire to die. Um, that is concerning regardless of racial tensions. It isn't that they want him to be more human, but they want to understand him. That isn't always easy, and can make relationships far more tenuous if there is someone who looks at things from a strictly logical point of view.

Kirk doesn't want Spock to lie, on the face of it. Kirk wants Spock to be loyal to him first, because that is how Kirk is loyal to Spock. Kirk is loyal to a fault, putting friendship before duty, while Spock is the opposite, putting his duty to Starfleet above all else. It's a conflict, and to me, is what makes the relationship interesting.

Also, how are the racial remarks, and you'll forgive if I don't remember all of them, different from McCoy's teasing in TOS?

 

[Malaika]

they dont nag to me, they loose their temper because they are human who have to deal with a cool vulcan.

I feel the same way. I like the unfolding relationship drama because it feels like a relationship to me. Its emotions and connections spilling out because some things need to be said.

I don't find it nagging, because I see human relationships unfolding. Kirk is very impulsive and emotional and loyal, all of these things to a fault, and it can come gushing out if he isn't being heard. With Spock, I think Kirk feels the need to prove himself, starting with the KM simulation. I think that interaction, how Spock goads Kirk, sets the tone for the beginning of their relationship, and moves on in to a mutual sort of respect, with a lot of teasing.

Seems to me like Kirk and Uhura feel like they need to say that Spock should be more human for them to like him.
So really how different are they from the bullies on Vulcan tormenting Spock because he isn't Vulcan enough?

I never get Uhura's problem with Spock. If she doesn't like him then she should get another boyfriend.

If Kirk wants a First Officer who lies on reports then he should get someone else. I don't think 'teasing' involves Kirk making racist remarks to Spock. Spock could just go to New Vulcan to live if he wanted to be 'teased' with racist remarks.

So I guess you never argue with your significant other? And that you like every little thing about them in every moment and the moment they do something 'wrong', you leave them and just get another 'perfect' SO, right?
Now if life could actually be that simple....

Uhura wouldn't be with him it she wanted a conventional human boyfriend and if you watch the first movie you can see how understanding and accepting of his vulcan side she is with one simple line : what YOU need?
And her consequent 'ok' in the end when he replied.
But they are an interspecies couple and he isn't more alien than her. If she thinks he's being suicidal and doesn't care for his life and even less how his death would affect the person he loves and who loves him, she needs to express her feelings and her human side no less than when he expressed his vulcan side. And he needs to understand to not take her for granted, or that she will always get things from his pov, because she's still a human not a vulcan. And he did.
A relationship is a never ending work in progress. Besides, what happened to them in the first movie was a new thing. When they started dating he didn't lose his mom and planet and he didn't have PTSD as a consequence of that. Uhura knows him better than anyone there and even to her he obviously wasn't acting himself, even for a vulcan. That's not about being more human. If anything, Spock's behavior *was* pretty human, actually.

 

[Commishsleer]

I feel the same way. I like the unfolding relationship drama because it feels like a relationship to me. Its emotions and connections spilling out because some things need to be said.

I don't find it nagging, because I see human relationships unfolding. Kirk is very impulsive and emotional and loyal, all of these things to a fault, and it can come gushing out if he isn't being heard. With Spock, I think Kirk feels the need to prove himself, starting with the KM simulation. I think that interaction, how Spock goads Kirk, sets the tone for the beginning of their relationship, and moves on in to a mutual sort of respect, with a lot of teasing.

Seems to me like Kirk and Uhura feel like they need to say that Spock should be more human for them to like him.
So really how different are they from the bullies on Vulcan tormenting Spock because he isn't Vulcan enough?

I never get Uhura's problem with Spock. If she doesn't like him then she should get another boyfriend.

If Kirk wants a First Officer who lies on reports then he should get someone else. I don't think 'teasing' involves Kirk making racist remarks to Spock. Spock could just go to New Vulcan to live if he wanted to be 'teased' with racist remarks.

Uhura has concerns that her boyfriend would rather die and doesn't want to talk to her about it. That is a point of discussion in any relationship. I don't see it as unreasonable to not discuss the possibility of death on a Starfleet episode, but Spock is reporting a desire to die. Um, that is concerning regardless of racial tensions. It isn't that they want him to be more human, but they want to understand him. That isn't always easy, and can make relationships far more tenuous if there is someone who looks at things from a strictly logical point of view.

Kirk doesn't want Spock to lie, on the face of it. Kirk wants Spock to be loyal to him first, because that is how Kirk is loyal to Spock. Kirk is loyal to a fault, putting friendship before duty, while Spock is the opposite, putting his duty to Starfleet above all else. It's a conflict, and to me, is what makes the relationship interesting.

Also, how are the racial remarks, and you'll forgive if I don't remember all of them, different from McCoy's teasing in TOS?

I don't see where Spock was showing a death risk. Were was he reporting a desire to die? He was risking his life to save 'the many'. That's what Starfleet Officers do.
Was Kirk showing a death wish when he zoomed between the Enterprise and the Vengeance, when he went into the Warp Core, were Carol Marcus and McCoy showing death wishes by disarming a missile?

Is Star Trek 3 going to have Kirk asking Uhura if Spock can go on risky missions? I mean he has a girlfriend to think of. Perhaps Kirk can send a less loved officer on those important missions even if Spock is the best person for the job.

And it seemed to be OK if Uhura approved the dangerous mission. She actually sent Spock to track down Khan. Perhaps she should be First Officer and decide if the mission is important enough to risk her boyfriend.

I don't mind Kirk's frustration with Spock. I just don't want to see him gossiping about it with his girlfriend or making racist comments. This isn't some high school teenage flick. How old is Kirk anyway?

And I thought this is the 21st century. I thought racist remarks are not acceptable nowadays but I see that this movie (and ST09) shows I'm wrong. I would have thought if TOS were made now McCoy wouldn't be making those racist remarks. Perhaps I'm too PC but I don't think they were McCoys finest lines but like nuKirk they don't indicate true racism but frustration.