The Walking Dead Season 5

[Trekker4747]

Well, there's the brake lights.

Well yes, but if you're coming up behind someone they're barely visible.

Eh. better safe than sorry to have them disabled, particularly when they get to the destination in case they're being watched by the person who might see the brake lights. Then, as Mr. Adventure said, the car may have automatic lights on it that cannot be controlled inside of the car. Again, better safe than sorry.

 

[Silvercrest]

And why was he crying – was he bit?

The going theory is that he was bit by the underwater walker.

If it was underwater, would it be a "swimmer" instead of a "walker"? Maybe a "splasher".

 

[Trekker4747]

And regarding Bob – who was left alive that was in the camp in season 1 when Amy (Andrea’s sister) complained about someone walking her to the bathroom? She went alone, and thought she was safe, and wound up bitten. Bob has been at the prison so long, he forgot about such needed paranoia. So that’s why he got captured – not for the “mercy” given to Termites.
And why was he crying – was he bit?

Carol and Carl would be the only ones left who were in the Quarry Camp when Amy was bit after going to the bathroom in the RV.

Everyone else is dead, or otherwise out of the show, and Rick, Glenn and Daryl had gone back to Atlanta to find Merle and get the bag of guns.

But it's sort of a small thing, I doubt anyone is going to say to Bob, "Hey, don't go anywhere alone. We knew this girl two years ago who was killed by a walker after she went to drop the kids off, so beware!"

At this point it should be more-or-less common practice to go out in groups but Bob also spent quite some time by himself and survived not to mention he clearly was upset and went outside to vent his emotions. False sense of security.

I was expecting it when they ran into Gabriel, but it was neat to see Rick do the "three questions" as he was frisking Gabriel.

 

[Velocity]

Well, you knew that Bob and/or Sasha were doomed the moment we saw them all lovey dovey. It's almost as if Whedon was writing this.

 

[Mojochi]

The previous submerged walker got nicknamed a "Floater" didn't he?

Anyway... Bob was outside alone for a reason, either because he's been bitten, or because he has severe emotional issues, and the optimism is a cover. After all, he has commented on more than one occasion that he'd been in 2 different groups where he was the last man standing, and now there's a whole new family suddenly happening, and they don't have the safety of the prison anymore. Maybe he felt the doom that he carries from watching those other groups go down

And besides, at this point, there's been a number of people who've operated in the wild alone. Carol, Michonne, and now Morgan. You just have to be good at it. Bob's actually been on his own before. I assume this time was different because he was distracted by having the weepies

 

[Evil Twin]

Watching Rick walking with Bob, Sasha, Michonne, and Gabriel, I was thinking man, remember back when it was just T-Dog as the Token Black Guy? Oh, how far you've come, show...

 

[auntiehill]

Well, you knew that Bob and/or Sasha were doomed the moment we saw them all lovey dovey. It's almost as if Whedon was writing this.

As soon as Bob kissed Sasha, I turned to hubby and said, "That's it! Bob's dead."

So, I'm assuming that the reason he was all weepy is that he was bitten or scratched; the cannibals eating him are in for a nasty shock, I think.

 

[Velocity]

i was thinking the same thing, but now it looks like those numbers will be dropping...

 

[Mojochi]

I dunno, Glenn sort of had a point in not going back to Terminus. What would there to be gained?

Future safety. Rick wasn't saying to go back in. Work the perimeter. Get them as they run. Eliminate their retaliation from the equation. They'll be wishing they did that soon enough. That's not mercilessness. It's diligence

That's the dangling carrot: in the ZA would, 99% of the living population are about surviving in one way or another, not finding solutions. If that one percent is talking about ending the ZA, you are almost obligated to hear / explore the possibility.

Hear? yes, Consider? Possibly, Risk yourself without good reason? No.

In the bigger picture, they have nothing to lose--other than dealing with the same threats over and over again

They'll still be dealing with the same threats, and having this additional mission hanging over their heads is a distraction and clouds judgment = less preparedness.

Since season 2, Rick has been painted as having somewhat of an atheistic streak in him--even after establishing his relationship with Hershel. He seems to trust others more (like walking into an advertised sanctuary like Terminus--after experiencing Woodbury). That may have something to do with his immediate mistrust of Gabriel more than any obvious behavior not matching up in the man.

Everybody was skeptical of the reverend. They all know it doesn't add up. Rick was the most vocal, and maybe you're right about him having his own issues as to why, but he wasn't alone in giving the side glance to this new cleric dude. Not one of them is even remotely questioning Eugene at all. The only reason Abe had to wait at all was because they've been too busy. It doesn't make sense that they'd be this easy about it. Rick: "The baby thinks we should go! Let's Go!"

A direction of hope is not an excuse. False or misplaced hope is not a solution for hopelessness. Making a reason to have hope is, & this plan is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for finding something to believe in. They should know better

 

[Brent]

I think Bob got bit by the water walker, that's why he wanted a second kiss, and also was outside crying. He knew he was doomed. I was thinking maybe he was going to run off at that point.

 

[JD]

Really enjoyed this episode. The interactions between the characters in the beginning were nice. It was cool seeing everybody back together again.
I always find it interesting to see how they approach new people. There attitude there has definitely changed a lot over the seasons.
I'm curious what Gabriel is hiding, because it's obvious something is going on with him. I think i did read up on his comic book counter part on Wikipedia, but I don't remember what it said.
So I wonder if this is the end of Bob?
How long has it been since Beth was grabbed? I would have expected her captors to be a lot farther away by now. Unless they are staying around a nearby base or camp or something like that.

 

[Trekker4747]

How long has it been since Beth was grabbed? I would have expected her captors to be a lot farther away by now. Unless they are staying around a nearby base or camp or something like that.

It's been maybe a couple of days. Four, tops.

I suspect the person who took her is nearby.

I wonder what the deal was with the car Carol found. The battery was dead (but when she gets in the dome-light comes on, so not completely dead, it seems.) So in the trunk there's a portable charger/jumper for the battery, okay makes sense I have one of those.

Wait, she turned it on. Umm.... So it's in the trunk and hooked up to the battery? So the car battery was dead but not the charger?

So. Either the original owner of the car did something to kill the battery in it and didn't use the charged jumper/charger to restart the car and took off for parts unknown or the battery weakened naturally from the car sitting too long (but not completely as the dome light came on) but the idle time didn't impact the charger-thing.

The charger thing apparently hard-wired to the car's electrical system rather than being a separate device that'd need to be physically taken to the engine compartment and connected to the battery.

 

[sojourner]

The charger thing apparently hard-wired to the car's electrical system rather than being a separate device that'd need to be physically taken to the engine compartment and connected to the battery.

She's putting it back in the trunk after starting the car when Daryl walks up in that last scene.

 

[Trekker4747]

The charger thing apparently hard-wired to the car's electrical system rather than being a separate device that'd need to be physically taken to the engine compartment and connected to the battery.

She's putting it back in the trunk after starting the car when Daryl walks up in that last scene.

Then what did she click on when she found it in the trunk?

 

[sojourner]

The charger thing apparently hard-wired to the car's electrical system rather than being a separate device that'd need to be physically taken to the engine compartment and connected to the battery.

She's putting it back in the trunk after starting the car when Daryl walks up in that last scene.

Then what did she click on when she found it in the trunk?

When they first found the car? She turned the charger on to see if it was any good.

 

[Mojochi]

How long has it been since Beth was grabbed? I would have expected her captors to be a lot farther away by now. Unless they are staying around a nearby base or camp or something like that.

Yeah, probably less than a week. The place where she got grabbed was a set trap, a fairly elaborate one, with stocked food, clean accommodations, the one eyed dog bait and switch. If you make a trap like that, you stick around to see what bites. They're local, and probably got a few other traps set, just like it. Hell, the only reason to use the car and limited fuel, is to spring the traps. They likely had some captives in it when Daryl/Carol see them speed by

 

[Trekker4747]

She's putting it back in the trunk after starting the car when Daryl walks up in that last scene.

Then what did she click on when she found it in the trunk?

When they first found the car? She turned the charger on to see if it was any good.

Okay. I guess it makes "more" sense now... Sort of.

 

[Silvercrest]

And that car wasn't too far discharged, either. Along with the dome, you could hear the relays clicking when she first tried to start it. Even a partially discharged jump-charger would generally be enough.

Now, to re-open the debate about the state of the fuel ....

 

[Trekker4747]

Well, the relays were clicking but the engine wasn't cranking so the battery was pretty heavily depleted.

 

[bbjeg]

I've been off of this thread for awhile. The catch up looked daunting during exam week last week but I'm going for it. The first two episodes were great.

New Walking Dead trailer hints at some major character deaths. I wonder if this is the final season for Glenn?

Glenn and Maggie had an ominous sounding speech in the rail tunnel full of walkers at the end of last season where all of us who were watching unanimously said: "Well, one of them is going to die for sure now." So I wouldn't be surprised to see Glenn bite it at some point.

I felt the same way. After they survived last season, I thought Bob would be fine too after his display of affections in the last episode.

Lori was to blame for Shane's actions.

I disagree with the rest of your post (Lori didn't tell Shane to kill Rick in any way) but she is to blame for keeping him around. Shane had a vehicle gassed up and filled with enough supplies to gather more in time, then Lori told him to stay.

Jesus, that was intense. Carolmmando was awesome. The casual business-like way the Terminus people killed their victims at the trough was chilling as hell, as was the stack of teddy bears and toys. Everyone got a chance to be a badass in this, except for Professor Mullet. After the brutality of the bulk of the episode, the reunion of Daryl and Carol, Rick and Carl and Judith, and Tyrese and his sister was touching. It's great to have everyone back together so soon and moving on to new things.

That's my take on the episode along with excitement to see Morgan.

I saw this preview now - indeed he was allied with Rick's group, but the setting didn't look like Terminus. So, either it's misdirection from the showrunner or Gareth and some of his people get out of Terminus, meet with Rick and for some reason Rick decides not to kill them on the spot.

After the last episode, I don't know what to think about that scene.

... I know she's been using a gun for the better part of a year now and improbable headshots are a trope of this series, but she again shows considerable proficiency with a gun here that she shouldn't yet have...

She missed twice before hitting the large target btw.

Well, there's the brake lights.

Well yes, but if you're coming up behind someone they're barely visible.

At night, they are clearly visible off the road and trees they pass, especially if it's the only other car on the road.

...
Now, to re-open the debate about the state of the fuel ....

That debate crossed my mind when they said they'll get the short-bus to work.