The Walking Dead Season 5
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Yeah, I'd take Shane at his word that there was nothing going on between him and Lori before Rick was left behind in the hospital and that their first sexual encounter was the woods around the quarry in the second episode.
Perhaps the sex didn't start until then, but, I still have a gut feeling that there was already something there, earlier, and contributed to Rick and Lori's marital problems. If there wasn't already at least an "Almost relationship" between Shane and Lori, she and Shane were really, really slutty hopping into the sack so soon after Rick's "death" (Shane's best friend, Lori's Husband)
And, I have to watch it again, but, I recall that I felt like Shane was acting guilty in that flashback to Rick and Shane in the Squad car having the discussion about the rocky marriage.
I dunno, like I said, I take Shane at his word that nothing happened between him and Lori before the ZA/when they left Atlanta. I know that's a level of trust that Shane doesn't quite earn but, somehow, I believe him as it seemed like he honestly loved Rick as a brother and wouldn't do that to Rick. For all Shane knew Rick was as good as dead when he left that hospital, if not in actuality, wouldn't likely survive long without the machinery and the walkers around.
As for the relationship between him and Lori, it was born out of the desperate situation they were in and out of Lori wanting to return to "something" of normalcy in her life and her and Shane were close, but not romantic, up uintil then. Things just sort of happened. It was very desperate times so *anything* would have felt normal no matter how out of line it seemed.
What happened between Lori and Shane I feel was purely in the post-ZA, before that any feelings between them were purely platonic. Maybe flirty, maybe a bit "in a different life things could have gone this way..." but nothing more than that.
The relationship troubles between Lori and Rick likely came from Rick's dedication to his job and how Rick felt Lori acted around/towards Carl.
Hell, Rick even pretty much said he knew more or less right away that Lori and Shane had something going on, he's not stupid, but came to terms with it and was more or less okay with it. If there's anyone his wife should move on with it'd be with someone Rick trusted as a brother. He realized the dire situation they were in and that the relationship was born from that.
Yeah, Rick was angry at first -by his own word- but overall he seemed to be okay with it.
As for the relationship between him and Lori, it was born out of the desperate situation they were in and out of Lori wanting to return to "something" of normalcy in her life and her and Shane were close, but not romantic, up uintil then. Things just sort of happened. It was very desperate times so *anything* would have felt normal no matter how out of line it seemed.
What happened between Lori and Shane I feel was purely in the post-ZA, before that any feelings between them were purely platonic. Maybe flirty, maybe a bit "in a different life things could have gone this way..." but nothing more than that.
The relationship troubles between Lori and Rick likely came from Rick's dedication to his job and how Rick felt Lori acted around/towards Carl.
Hell, Rick even pretty much said he knew more or less right away that Lori and Shane had something going on, he's not stupid, but came to terms with it and was more or less okay with it. If there's anyone his wife should move on with it'd be with someone Rick trusted as a brother. He realized the dire situation they were in and that the relationship was born from that.
Yeah, Rick was angry at first -by his own word- but overall he seemed to be okay with it.
Well, he did dip his chip in Rick's ketchup.
There you go, that's pretty damning right there
I saw it again this week. There's no hint in the scene that he's feeling guilty about anything. It's just 2 guys talking smack about their relationships with women.
Actually, his world means nothing. In season two's "Triggerfinger," Shane (after rescuing Lori from the car accident) presses the fantasy that their fling was "A long time coming."
He's a plain speaking man, so that means he believes there was something inevitable about the affair, which we should assume means before the ZA, otherwise the line makes no sense, as they were already involved when introduced (post flashback) in season 1.
Whether he thought Rick was dead or not, any moral person would not snake his way through any tragedy (as packaged and sold by Shane) to prey on another man's wife. In the same position, the last kind of comfort I would provide is from my pants.
Actually,, he was not okay with it, as Rick (in the following episode "18 Miles Out") said when he believed he uncovered what had happened, he want to make Shane "swallow his own teeth."
--A thought of swinging the hammer of retribution down on Shane, not being okay with any of it. By the time of "18 Miles Out," Rick is merely burying the betrayal temporarily (for the sake of some kind of functional peace), but he's still angry over it, as his spitting accusation at Shane ("screw my wife")in the final conflict of "Better Angels" revealed.
Peace was not possible between the two, and once Shane thought the baby was his, notice how his possessive fantasies shot through the roof about Lori, the child--everything.
It would not be long before he discusses insurrection with Andrea, and there would only be one way (from Shane's POV) to accomplish that on the farm.
Lori was to blame for Shane's actions. She encouraged Shane to think he would be with her if Rick was out of the way, so he decided to make it happen. I can kind of understand her turning to Shane during an "end of the world" situation when she thought her husband was gone, but she practically told Shane to eliminate Rick, so no sympathy for her anymore. I got the impression that, like Andrea, she thought Shane could protect them better than Rick could so she made a coldhearted decision.
When did that happen? Lori went from being repeatedly pissed at Shane for telling her Rick was dead, to telling him their fling was a mistake. Arguing with Rick about taking off after others (where she has some sort of agreement with Shane) is not (to a sane person) saying, "Lori wants me to kill Rick, so we will be together!"
Remember, in "Triggerfinger," Shane claimed their fling was "A long time coming." He created that idea, not Lori. A long time coming cannot be the moment the ZA happened, but long before the ZA.
In the Better Angels episode Lori goes out to the windmill where Shane is working on a lookout point halfway up the structure. She tries to tell him that she is sorry for putting Rick and him at odds with one another. However, her apology goes too far. Shane feels that there is still chance for Lori to be his, because that is what he has wanted all along, but she was instrumental in stirring up his hopes again.
AMC cancels all their reality shows
Only Talking Dead and Comic Book Men will continue.
With Breaking Bad over and Mad Men done next year, AMC will now be desperate to find another hit outside of TWD.
Only Talking Dead and Comic Book Men will continue.
With Breaking Bad over and Mad Men done next year, AMC will now be desperate to find another hit outside of TWD.
When this series began I don't think I ever thought I'd find myself fist-pumping over badass(!) Carol.
Carol's so badass the zombie groo just disappears off her when her mission is done. 
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