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Why didn't Voyager head to the Gamma Q?

Douglas Adams would have railed against Twitter if he had another opportunity to rewrite the opening.

I'm sorry but the "It might not be there any more " argument is a winner.

Although, considering the Celestial Temple is a stellar phenomenon on par to a star but Unique, they should be able to tell if it's there or not from Stellar Cartography looking ahead even from Caretaker, if they're able to map most of the galaxy from the one edge of the western spiral arm they usually live in.
 
Is anyone getting the dated vibe watching voyager nowadays?

I think all the Star Trek shows are simply products of their time. Most of it, however, I think is just aesthetics. If these shows were made today, they would probably put more emphasis on making them more "realistic," for lack of a better term. I think we'd definitely see a change in things like lighting and camera work.

I think we'd also see some changes in story elements. For example, I seriously doubt DS9 would be allowed to so casually throw around words like "terrorism" like they do. Kira regularly refers to herself as a terrorist, and we're supposed to take it as a good thing.
 
It was weird in Generations.

The Lights on the bridge were set to half lumination.

I just chalk that up to them being in front of that star for half the movie. "Guys, there's a big star outside. Turn off the lights and open a frickin' window."
 
Okay, "good" may have been the wrong word, but we are supposed to be sympathetic to their cause. I'm just saying that in a post-9/11 world, the word "terrorist" wouldn't have been used to describe one of our heroes. Resistance? Freedom fighter? Sure, those could be used, but I don't think we live in a world anymore where those words could be synonymous with terrorist.
 
I believe Captain Kate also seen it as an opportunity to chart unknown space. If she'd just hopped over to the Gamma Quadrant and hot-tailed it back to the Bajorian Wormhole from there, then Starfleet's knowledge of the Delta Quadrant wouldn't have been expanded in the way it was.

I would have thought that the safety of your ship and crew were more of a priority over exploration. I wouldn't want to make the decision Janeway did when there was no backup or nearby help for your ship and your crew to simply venture off into the unknown as much as they did.

I personally would have headed towards the Gamma Quadrant because at least at that time, some of the area was explored and you had a decent idea what you were heading towards and as there was no indication that the Bajoran Wormhole was unstable or would have vanished by the time they got there, that was a pretty sure-fire solution to getting home at least a little bit sooner than the path they ended up taking.

And they'd still end up exploring a good chunk of unexplored space along the way to the GQ.

The other factor would have been the crew researching what they do know of the area they were heading into.... one of those things would have been the Enterprise-D's encounter with the Borg. Not even being a Galaxy class Starship and just a single Intrepid Class, it sure doesn't seem smart to be heading straight for the Borg.

But meh... I was just thinking.
 
I am embarrassed to admit but I don't remember much of that history to understand the comparison, Guy. Would you mind clarifying?
 
King George III owned America until he didn't.

How many loyal British Subjects did Washington have to murder and how many bridges did he have to blow up until he finished stealing America from the British Crown?

It's all about perspective.

Most Americans don't like to think of the father of their Nation as a terrorist trying to overthrow the appointed by god and legally powered government that were the British Colonies, but that's exactly what he did. The forces in opposition to his rebellion were the US police force and the US Army (Who were of course Redcoats, but that doesn't change the fact that most of them were probably born in America before over seas reserves were called in to deal with the terrorists.).

Luke Skywalker was also a terrorist.

The Evil Galactic Empire (A weird choice there by Palpatine) built schools, hospitals and parks where decent people could walk their dogs.

Point is, that if you are the government, you control the narrative.
 
The other factor would have been the crew researching what they do know of the area they were heading into.... one of those things would have been the Enterprise-D's encounter with the Borg. Not even being a Galaxy class Starship and just a single Intrepid Class, it sure doesn't seem smart to be heading straight for the Borg.

But meh... I was just thinking.

Well, they had no idea WHERE in the DQ the Borg were. For all they knew, they'd fly through Borg space trying to get to the Gamma Terminus of the Wormhole.
 
I'm sorry but the "It might not be there any more " argument is a winner.
Yep. How many times did the wormhole go wrong or close during DS9's run? Add once more (at least) in the post-series novels.

The reaction shots of the aged crew after 50+ years getting to the Gamma end of the wormhole would be hilarious.
 
I was listening to one of the last made radio adaptations of Hitch-hikers Guide to he Galaxy, and the "beginning bit" where the book calls us monkeys for being obsessed with digital watches wasn't there any more, the dialogue had been changed to (this was circa 2004.) we're all idiot monkeys for obsessing on "novelty ringtones" for our cellphones.

:)
That's hilarious, way to date the play even worse :lol:
 
Okay, "good" may have been the wrong word, but we are supposed to be sympathetic to their cause. I'm just saying that in a post-9/11 world, the word "terrorist" wouldn't have been used to describe one of our heroes. Resistance? Freedom fighter? Sure, those could be used, but I don't think we live in a world anymore where those words could be synonymous with terrorist.

Which is just silly and propagandistic. Terrorism is simply a military tactic, not an ideology. Freedom fighters do use terrorism if it's the only method available to them, and it's dishonest to pretend otherwise. DS9 got it right. War may be a necessary evil at times, but that doesn't make it any less evil on either side. Kira was honest enough to admit that she'd done awful things for a necessary goal, rather than trying to sanitize it with propagandistic labels like "freedom-fighting." Yes, she fought for freedom, but she did so using the military tactic of terrorism. Because that word refers to a means to an end, not an end in itself.



I personally would have headed towards the Gamma Quadrant because at least at that time, some of the area was explored...

That's overlooking just how immense the galaxy is. "Some of the area" was an inconsequentially tiny volume around the wormhole, not enough to make any meaningful difference to the majority of their journey.


I think the best reason for heading toward the Federation was the prospect of communication. The closer they got, the better the odds that they could establish some form of communication with Starfleet, at which point Starfleet could've begun working on ways to get them home faster, send ships to rendezvous with them, or at least let them speak to their loved ones again. Going toward the Bajoran Wormhole would've kept them at a nearly constant distance from the Federation and put the Central Bulge of the galaxy between them and it, which would've probably ruled out any prospect of establishing communication with home or arranging for Federation ships to meet them partway.

Not to mention that the Ocampa system was out on the fringes of the galactic disk. The deeper the ship moved into the disk, the more densely populated it would be, and thus the better their chances of finding aliens who could help them or cosmic phenomena that could provide shortcuts. Heading toward the Gamma Quadrant, more or less cutting a chord across the disk, would have kept them mostly in the sparser outskirts of the disk, without those advantages. True, it would've taken decades for this to become a factor, but their whole journey was about thinking long-term.

So I'd say that the path they took was definitely a better option than going for the Bajoran Wormhole. The slightly shorter journey would not have been enough compensation for the drawbacks of that course.
 
It's also a question of certainties vs. uncertainties. The Bajoran wormhole's Gamma end was guarded by an almost rabidly hostile star power with superior armaments; hoping that this star power should withdraw would be futile. The Bajoran wormhole's Alpha end in turn was guarded by an almost rabidly protective officer who had already destroyed the wormhole once, even if only in his dreams, and had sworn to do it again - this would be the hottest news when the Voyager visited DS9.

Nothing the heroes might face on the direct route to Earth would be as certain as those two major threats... There would be the possibility for nice surprises such as shortcuts home, and nasty ones such as meeting the Borg or something worse, no matter which route was chosen, but it doesn't pay to bet against certainties!

Timo Saloniemi
 
At one time the Wormhole was blocked by a self replicating mine field- imagine if Voyager popped through then and was blown up...
 
Kira regularly refers to herself as a terrorist, and we're supposed to take it as a good thing.

Of course we aren't. You really need to watch the show again if you came away thinking that.

Remember, one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter-Kira was a terrorist to the Cardassians, but a freedom fighter to anybody else that knows what the Cardassians were like.
 
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