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The Walking Dead Season 5

Passed by the episode. It was such a different series at the time. The established world felt dangerous.
 
So, rewatching the very first episode tonight. To bring up an old conversation about how long Rick was in the hospital, there is one definite data point. When they go to the police station and make Rick is testing for hot water, Morgan mentions to him that propane service has been down for "about a month".

IIRC one of the web episodes cleaned up this problem by placing a nurse still in the hospital for quite sometime after the world had gone to shit and the ZA?
 
So, rewatching the very first episode tonight. To bring up an old conversation about how long Rick was in the hospital, there is one definite data point. When they go to the police station and make Rick is testing for hot water, Morgan mentions to him that propane service has been down for "about a month".

IIRC one of the web episodes cleaned up this problem by placing a nurse still in the hospital for quite sometime after the world had gone to shit and the ZA?
Yeah, I saw that webisode, but still, some people debated how much time had passed, insisting that it could only have been 3 weeks.
 
Yeah, I saw that webisode, but still, some people debated how much time had passed, insisting that it could only have been 3 weeks.


Yea. There are several things about the early timeline that make zero sense. Not only the length of time he was in the hospital, how fast the world went to shit, but also notably, how quickly Lori fell into bed with Shane after the ZA and Ricks presumed death. Sure didn't take her long if you even believe 3 weeks or so.

Then again - Carl's quick recovery from a nearly fatal gunshot wound on the farm doesn't make sense either.



I wonder if they did this to lock in actors pay in advance of season 5 results? If they do as well in season 5 as they did in 4 - no doubt several people would be asking for a hefty pay raise.
 
The Walking Dead must be the safest show from cancellation on television right now! ;)
 
I wonder if they did this to lock in actors pay in advance of season 5 results? If they do as well in season 5 as they did in 4 - no doubt several people would be asking for a hefty pay raise.

I imagine anyone that asks for too much money the writers will kill off, so the actors won't be too loud about it. One of the advantages of a show like this with a high mortality rate. Only five actors from the first season are still around, the rest are dead.

At the moment, I think the only actors that can get away with asking for pay raise is the actors that play Rick and Daryl, with the first being the lead and the second being the breakout character of the series. I also think Carl is safe from death, but I don't think that actor is paid all that much since he is still a minor.
 
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At the moment, I think the only actors that can get away with asking for pay raise is the actors that play Rick and Daryl, with the first being the lead and the second being the breakout character of the series. I also think Carl is safe from death, but I don't think that actor is paid all that much since he is still a minor.

The adult guardians of child actors can be greedy on their behalf - Just ask Justin Beibers father. ;) I was just taking a guess why they'd renew in advance of season 5 for 6. But you're right the ratings have been so fantastic thus far, it was a guarantee to renew. We shall see this fall if it holds.

Regarding timeline, according to the Walking Dead Wiki Rick woke up after 60 days
 
I wonder if they did this to lock in actors pay in advance of season 5 results? If they do as well in season 5 as they did in 4 - no doubt several people would be asking for a hefty pay raise.

I imagine anyone that asks for too much money the writers will kill off, so the actors won't be too loud about it. One of the advantages of a show like this with a high morality rate. Only five actors from the first season are still around, the rest are dead.

At the moment, I think the only actors that can get away with asking for pay raise is the actors that play Rick and Daryl, with the first being the lead and the second being the breakout character of the series. I also think Carl is safe from death, but I don't think that actor is paid all that much since he is still a minor.


I think the morality rate is pretty low, with all that they've done. And the morale-ity rate might just be picking up, with Rick's quick speech.

But the mortality rate-- great point. Now, if they really want to shake things up, if they kill Rick, then audiences will be slapped with the fact that no one is safe at that point, and Darryl fans will be freaking out.

And if Rick dies, that could open it up for Carl to move on with another group (since he's getting too old to play a boy; killing him off wouldn't be necessary, and not predictable).
 
I think the morality rate is pretty low, with all that they've done. And the morale-ity rate might just be picking up, with Rick's quick speech.

But the mortality rate-- great point. Now, if they really want to shake things up, if they kill Rick, then audiences will be slapped with the fact that no one is safe at that point, and Darryl fans will be freaking out.

And if Rick dies, that could open it up for Carl to move on with another group (since he's getting too old to play a boy; killing him off wouldn't be necessary, and not predictable).

Geez, you make one typo and someone has to rub that mistake in your face three times! Once would have been enough. :p
 

That's hard to buy into. One can allow for a lot for Rick's survival on the hospital bed without nutrition or water while in an unpowered hospital room in the south in the late summer.

I'd be willing to grant a week or two, and that's really stretching things when it comes to dehydration and what the body has to resort to for nutrition without any incoming calories.

But two months? Way too long for Rick to be lying on that bed.
 
That's hard to buy into. One can allow for a lot for Rick's survival on the hospital bed without nutrition or water while in an unpowered hospital room in the south in the late summer.

I'd be willing to grant a week or two, and that's really stretching things when it comes to dehydration and what the body has to resort to for nutrition without any incoming calories.

But two months? Way too long for Rick to be lying on that bed.

Once again, a web episode tries to clean this part of the storyline up by having a nurse at the hospital who stayed behind and allegedly cared for the critical patients. Now where she was when Rick woke up kind of ruins that explanation but the web episode was done after Episode 1 was filmed.
 
At the moment, I think the only actors that can get away with asking for pay raise is the actors that play Rick and Daryl, with the first being the lead and the second being the breakout character of the series. I also think Carl is safe from death, but I don't think that actor is paid all that much since he is still a minor.

Still, if the producers do not want to be too predictable (disliked and/or marginal and/or development-challenged characters die), they will kill one of the leads. It is the only way to make Rick's S5 trailer line "you're not safe" mean anything.

Right now, almost all WD fans go back to the deaths predicted since S2: Carol, Beth, and after a couple of leading scenes in season 4, Glenn or Maggie. But no one expects Rick, Daryl or Carl to meet their maker--just their emotional suffering from losing friends. If one of this trio dies, suddenly, the danger seen in the first couple of seasons returns, where the audience is forced to lose its sense of comfort.

Let's see if the producers have the guts to "get real" on WD.
 
Yeah, I saw that webisode, but still, some people debated how much time had passed, insisting that it could only have been 3 weeks.


Yea. There are several things about the early timeline that make zero sense. Not only the length of time he was in the hospital, how fast the world went to shit, but also notably, how quickly Lori fell into bed with Shane after the ZA and Ricks presumed death. Sure didn't take her long if you even believe 3 weeks or so.

Then again - Carl's quick recovery from a nearly fatal gunshot wound on the farm doesn't make sense either.



I wonder if they did this to lock in actors pay in advance of season 5 results? If they do as well in season 5 as they did in 4 - no doubt several people would be asking for a hefty pay raise.
Don't we get the sense in the flashback, that Lori is at least considering bedding Shane, if not already doing it before the ZA? So, she and Shane may have been close, her and Rick weren't, so the months she's already felt distant from Rick, and close to Shane, could've made the coma for Rick, simply a sign to proceed with that developing relationship?
 
I don't remember any pre-ZA flashbacks involving Lori and Shane.

There was the flashback with Shane telling Lori that Rick had been shot in season 2's "Bloodletting".

I wouldn't be surprised if Shane and Lori were already sleeping together before the ZA. Lori was already fighting with Rick back then, mad that Rick was being too "nice". Did she feel guilty about something?
 
I don't remember any pre-ZA flashbacks involving Lori and Shane.
I was going more with the Flashback(s) showing Lori/Rick having issues, and the flashback(s) of Shane and Rick. Between those two, sides, plus Shane telling Lori about Rick getting shot (As well as how soon they were taking care of each other's needs in the first camp) I got the impression Shane and Lori were already hiding a developing relationship when the ZA hit.

It's not really common that someone in a marriage of at least 10 years, is going to start sleeping with anyone else, let alone their spouse's best friend almost immediately after that spouse becomes incapacitated, unless there is already something going on.
 
I don't remember any pre-ZA flashbacks involving Lori and Shane.

As noted there was one when Shane tells her Rick was shot and is in the hospital, there's also another one (though not strictly pre-ZA) of Shane and Lori on a highway outside Atlanta once it seems like things reach a breaking point, Atlanta is bombed, and they meat up with Carol and her family. Possibly the beginnings of the quarry camp.
 
As noted there was one when Shane tells her Rick was shot and is in the hospital, there's also another one (though not strictly pre-ZA) of Shane and Lori on a highway outside Atlanta once it seems like things reach a breaking point, Atlanta is bombed, and they meat up with Carol and her family. Possibly the beginnings of the quarry camp.

The only thing I remember specifically is when Rick and Shane are in the Patrol car in episode 1 when they discuss over a burger that their marriage was going through difficult times.

I still maintain that after a ZA and only after ~ 60 days of her husbands death - that's a short amount of time to be hopping back in the sack with another man. But - some people are different.
 
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