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Whosever idea it was to have the Q continuum manifest as a civil war reenactment deserves to be in the 'Penalty box'.
So did I miss something? When was it decided Kes and Neelix weren't together anymore? First we have the episode Darkling where Kes is just seeing another guy and no one mentions or asks about Neelix's feelings about it. Then I just watched Before and After in which Kes lives her life backward, from death to birth in a strange temporal anomaly (jeezus, how many of those are the writer's going to abuse?) In that eipsode, Kes has children with Tom Paris (and Harry got with their daughter... that just seems weird.)
Did something happen between Kes and Neelix and I completely missed it or did the show get bored with itself and decide to make things up?
Did something happen between Kes and Neelix and I completely missed it or did the show get bored with itself and decide to make things up?
Remember Warlord when the alien took over Kes' body and broke up with Neelix?
"Apparently" that stuck.
I'm told that something was filmed at some point, but it got lost on the cutting room floor.
"Apparently" that stuck.
I'm told that something was filmed at some point, but it got lost on the cutting room floor.
Yeah, I just realized that and wow, that's a terrible way to break two characters up. I really want to know more about why they chose to do it that way. I'm going to feel sad for Neelix now every time I see him.
Okay, it's been like 13 days since I ordered S6! Going through withdrawals again.
Yeah I don't know what the heck the writers were thinking in season 3, it's a pretty big mess of a season with absolutely *zero* direction. It's like there was a gas leak during the time they were writing that season.
Seasons of Star Trek were not written as a soapy ongoing story.
There was no plan.
The Producer(s) would be allowed to make X number of episodes for a season.
Each character would be assigned/drafted a number of vehicle episodes, until the season runs out of episodes (26 usually.).
3 Full cast ensembles, maybe one of them is a two parter, Janeway gets 4 episodes to herself, chakoaty gets three episodes to himself, Tom gets 5 episodes to himself, Neelix gets... Etc, etc, etc.
The Producer then looks through hir rolladex and asks 10 to 15 writers off site to write once or two of those Character vehicles. Nothing more than that. Hey "X" send me a Neelix story, and "Y" I need a B'Elanna story from you.
Buddies giving buddies work.
The Producer has no idea what the #### is going to be mailed back to hir when the work is completed off site.
They might chose to scrap it entirely because it's all bollocks.
If what they have bought seems worthwhile, Voyager's inhouse writers room takes a polish.
Maybe creates a little continuity between what they have and other incoming scripts from other outside talent unaware of the larger (near nonexisteat) direction for the season.
Then the Producer reads it, makes notes, either fixes it hirself or sends it back to the writers room, but after that back and forth has finally finished, they have a finished product ready to film, unless they have to make changes because of other incoming scripts that has whacky shit in them that they are not prepared for.
Seska.
Seska was wacky shit.
They read the story with Seska being a Cardassian and then they went back to the older scripts and added Seska into those episodes which before had random crewmen or probably Carey... Chakotay and Carey were lovers?
Why the #### not?
There was no plan.
The Producer(s) would be allowed to make X number of episodes for a season.
Each character would be assigned/drafted a number of vehicle episodes, until the season runs out of episodes (26 usually.).
3 Full cast ensembles, maybe one of them is a two parter, Janeway gets 4 episodes to herself, chakoaty gets three episodes to himself, Tom gets 5 episodes to himself, Neelix gets... Etc, etc, etc.
The Producer then looks through hir rolladex and asks 10 to 15 writers off site to write once or two of those Character vehicles. Nothing more than that. Hey "X" send me a Neelix story, and "Y" I need a B'Elanna story from you.
Buddies giving buddies work.
The Producer has no idea what the #### is going to be mailed back to hir when the work is completed off site.
They might chose to scrap it entirely because it's all bollocks.
If what they have bought seems worthwhile, Voyager's inhouse writers room takes a polish.
Maybe creates a little continuity between what they have and other incoming scripts from other outside talent unaware of the larger (near nonexisteat) direction for the season.
Then the Producer reads it, makes notes, either fixes it hirself or sends it back to the writers room, but after that back and forth has finally finished, they have a finished product ready to film, unless they have to make changes because of other incoming scripts that has whacky shit in them that they are not prepared for.
Seska.
Seska was wacky shit.
They read the story with Seska being a Cardassian and then they went back to the older scripts and added Seska into those episodes which before had random crewmen or probably Carey... Chakotay and Carey were lovers?
Why the #### not?
I'm not a fan of each episode revolving around one character. That took some getting used to. I do wish every season had a big storyline too. Overall I've really liked it so far though. Definitely new territory for me.
I actually found Sacred Ground to have been one of the highlights of Season 3. Plus I found that it posed the opposite viewpoint of the TNG episode Who Watches The Watchers?, and it really gave the crew a look at something that science simply could not explain. Sometimes things just work in the galaxy because they just work, and everything that science comes up with (just like with the Doctor at the end) to explain why it works, doesn't really explain it.
No. Science explained it. Just too late to save Kes.
Actually science couldn't explain it until after they had studied how Kes wasn't dead after she had been saved by faith in the Supernatural.
But the ultimate unlearned moral of the story was "Don't be an asshole Kathryn."
Actually science couldn't explain it until after they had studied how Kes wasn't dead after she had been saved by faith in the Supernatural.
But the ultimate unlearned moral of the story was "Don't be an asshole Kathryn."
Refresh my memory, how DID science explain it?
While the Doctor is talking, Janeway has an expression on her face like she just found out that he pissed on her cornflakes. She's at first disinterested in the explanation, and then pissed off that the magical faith in universe being a nice bloke she had just decided to begin nurturing, is evaporating more and more with every word out of that lightbulb's mouth.
Memory refreshed!
Nicely worded. I think the execution of the episode could have been better. The idea that sometimes there are things science has not, maybe cannot explain based on our level of comprehension is mystical and fascinating. But this episode sort of forces a square peg into a round hole about the hole thing and has Janeway doing things that just, straight up, sound insane to logical people. She put Kes' life in danger, not by taking a leap of faith beyond the boundaries of limited federation knowledge but by ****ing around, drawing, and subjecting herself to a test when they had the tools necessary solve the mystery how to save their crew-person's life.
Probably after some historical strange.
Poor girl's gaydar is on the blink though.
Poor girl's gaydar is on the blink though.
So... Equinox Part 2, Janeway went a little nuts. And when I mean "a little", I mean there was a cascading waterfall of assorted nuts pouring out of her head! I don't understand what B'Lanna had to do exactly in Barge Of The Dead? Loved Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy! Seriously. Loved. It.
If you don't believe in ghosts and heaven and... They were stopping her heart and lungs so that the winding down processes from the early stages Brain death would afford the engineer a nice dream about mommy.
Janeway should have been certain this was the same bloke from Coda that kept faking her dream death, a telepthic Picture Plant, or that she had somehow contracted Tuvok's syphilis.
Unless there was mind control or body swapping or a transporter accident or a dirty toilet seat... The only way I can fathom that B'Elanna got Syphilis from Tuvok is Tuvix.
Janeway should have been certain this was the same bloke from Coda that kept faking her dream death, a telepthic Picture Plant, or that she had somehow contracted Tuvok's syphilis.
Unless there was mind control or body swapping or a transporter accident or a dirty toilet seat... The only way I can fathom that B'Elanna got Syphilis from Tuvok is Tuvix.
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