Breaking Bad Final Half Season

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Chuck Finley, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. FPAlpha

    FPAlpha Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 7, 2004
    Mannheim, Germany
    Gus' laundry (or at the least the superlab beneath it) burned to the ground in the season 4 finale. Additionally it's well known to the cops after these events so there is nothing to do there.

    School.. he's been fired (or suspended) from it after he made a pass at the principal which could have been constructed as sexual harrassment.

    Car Wash.. well, it's a money laundry front and that could hurt Walt in the short run but they could always find another way to build up a front if everything blows over and they win.

    Another possibility to get Walt good is to take Saul out of the equation. Saul has tons of contacts in the shady, criminal underworld and has bailed out Walt many times out of tough situations.
    However Saul is cunning and probably has covered all his tracks and knows the system inside out. Getting him would be very difficult.

    So i stand by my statement.. Walt's family is his real weak spot. Skylar not so much (maybe Jesse knows she's complicit or he at least suspects it) but Jr. only knows the official version as much as he dislikes it.

    We'll see soon enough.
  2. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell Comfortably Numb Premium Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    where it hurts
    I agree, I think it's going to have something to do with Walt's family--and not Hank, since Jesse's already figuratively in bed with him. He knows that Skyler knows about the business, so that leaves Walt Jr. What I don't know is if Jesse knows enough about Walt's family to realize just how much it would devastate Flynn to know his father is a criminal mastermind, drug dealer, and murderer.
  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 15, 2000
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Really? I think he put too much effort. A huge complicated story?

    A real man (who was innocent and did have an alibi) would have shrugged his shoulders, grunted and went back to watching sports.
  4. JacksonArcher

    JacksonArcher Vice Admiral Admiral

    Aug 16, 2001
    I want to think Walt Jr gets involved somehow. His line in this past episode "Why can't you tell the truth?" was telling enough, but then he has the scene with Walt by the pool, and I dunno. It just seems like Jesse could go after Walt Jr, but who knows.
  5. Captain Kathryn

    Captain Kathryn Commodore Commodore

    Feb 26, 2013
    Captain Kathryn
    I regretfully missed the past 2 episodes. Plan on watching them this weekend on demand. I can't help but read spoilers anyway. :D
  6. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 20, 2012
    That comment about 'Walt's other home'. He's not talking about the laundry. Jesse knows Walt's other criminal associates. Todd, Lydia. Todd'd be a rock in an interrogation, but Lydia? Jesse knows she's a coward and knows how she ships the meth to the Czech Republic.

    And Hank? He's sharp enough to figure out the 'Talk or we'll put you in holding and make it look like you talked' play.
  7. davejames

    davejames Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 6, 2001
    Sac, Ca
    Yeah that's the problem. I don't think Jesse really knows enough (or has even been made aware) about what Junior knows or doesn't know about the situation. And since he truly IS an innocent in all this, I'm not sure Jesse could really bring himself to hurt him like that anyway.

    My guess is Jesse's plan has more to do with Skyler, and with letting her in on the true scope of Walt's activities the last year and a half. The more Skyler learns, and the more pressure that's put on her, the more she might finally break and turn on Walt.

    Or maybe Jesse will give Walt some kind of ultimatum-- either turn himself in, or he'll turn Lydia and her hit men against his family.
  8. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

    May 30, 2001
    Thought it was a bit convenient for that suspicious dad character to derail the wire, but am intrigued to see what's gonna happen. Plus it was plausible since they had Walt secretively on the phone before that. 4 more to go...
  9. Mojochi

    Mojochi Commodore Commodore

    Aug 18, 2007
    Somehow, I get the impression Jesse's plan is more ingenious than we give him credit for. I don't think any of us know what's coming. He certainly had a look on his face like he out thought Heisenberg, & if anyone can do that, I'm betting it's him, this one final time
  10. Tom

    Tom Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 10, 2003
    In your Mind!
    Jesse does not have the influence or probably the money anymore to turn Lydia and her men against Walter. Also Jesse probably does not know about the Czech republic thing since he was out of the business well before that happened and there was no reason for Walter to tell him.
  11. wissaboo

    wissaboo Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Nov 12, 2006
    ^ that

    remember it was Jessie who came up with the plan to rob the train without anyone knowing and erasing the hard drive on Gus's computer with a magnet.
  12. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell Comfortably Numb Premium Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    where it hurts
    That's true. Jesse is smarter than Walt gives him credit for. Walt always wants to come up with really complicated solutions to problems, whereas Jesse figures out the simple but perfect ones.
  13. OdoWanKenobi

    OdoWanKenobi Admiral Admiral

    Jan 2, 2003
    Actually, I think Jesse's threat is an empty one. He knows that Walt does not tolerate direct threats. He said so himself to Hank. This is an attempt on Jesse's behalf to force Walt into action. He's trying to smoke Heisenberg out.
  14. J.T.B.

    J.T.B. Rear Admiral Premium Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    ^ That sounds very plausible. Walt did seem to be pretty shaken over what Jesse might do in the last episode. Either way, this episode was pivotal for Jesse. One, he snapped out of his funk and went into active mode, and two, seemed to get over his hatred for Hank. Both pretty bad developments for Walt. It was good to see Gomie brought in on things, but I still worry Hank's investigation is a little to extra-legal for its own good.
  15. Dorian Thompson

    Dorian Thompson Admiral Admiral

    Mar 3, 2003
    Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
    Reading spoilers about Breaking Bad ahead of time is ruining the best viewing experience ever. The show is such genius. The unfolding story is riveting. Why spoil it? I had to work the past 2 nights and just watched the episode now. I stayed away from spoilers.

    Walt's incredible luck has just run out.
  16. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Commodore Commodore

    May 1, 2001
    Staffordshire, UK
    This 'other home' business could refer to his home life. As long as Jesse has worked with Walt, the drug making has become their true home, where they both excel at what they do. Perhaps Jesse will be off to tell Junior a few home truths?

    I could be a million miles away but either way I'd love to see Junior's reaction to the real truth. He'd be so pissed.
  17. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 19, 2007
    Space Massachusetts

    I think Jesse we used to know is gone. He thought Walt was going to kill him and got sick of his lies. The episode seems to deal with Walt's lies no longer working for anyone.

    Jesse still hates Hank, but his hatred for Walt is so high after realizing he poisoned the kid that it's more "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
  18. PKerr

    PKerr Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 14, 2003
    Tampa Fl
    Did anyone find it odd the way the scene played out with Jesse having to go to the bathroom during the video confession and then Hank asking for another sim card?
    I'll bet Jesse lifted the recording during the time Hank was outside with Gomez and flushed it when he said he had to use the bathroom.
  19. TheMurph

    TheMurph Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jul 18, 2005
    When I first saw it I thought he was going to bolt, but that theory makes a lot of sense. I thought there was something off about it.
  20. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell Comfortably Numb Premium Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    where it hurts
    I find it odd that Jesse spilled his guts to Hank and Gomez without an immunity deal in writing. Even if they don't get Walt, Hank's got enough to Jesse to put a needle in his arm now.

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