Okay, but Safari is using a different rendering engine so you can't always assume that IE and Safari will do the same thing (Safari is based on WebKit which is the same engine that Chrome uses).
YouTube ditching support for IE7 and Firefox 3.0
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Okay, but Safari is using a different rendering engine so you can't always assume that IE and Safari will do the same thing (Safari is based on WebKit which is the same engine that Chrome uses).
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Just to YouTube and didn't get this message.
Also Firefox 3.0.11 and have a YouTube account -- not seeing any such message, but I have been getting some on-and-off page-formatting weirdness with search results, the last few days. Seems to be behaving just now.
I'm also running Firefox 3.0.11 and didn't get the message.
Go figure.
Go figure.
Size queens.
And muddy, so i'm not the only one having funky search results on YouTube!
I'm logged into my account and using Firefox 3.0 and not seeing that message.
It's not about the browsers user interfaces, but more about the engine that runs in them. Newer engine == lots more possibilities for a rich, interactive website, as YouTube is trying to be.
At least, that's the idea. The problem is; I see no mention of Safari (same engine as Chrome) in the start post, but I do see mention of IE8 (which, while having fixed a few bugs, still has nowhere near the capabilities of any modern browser).
So, a probable reason would be to save costs on trying to make their site compatible for older browsers; especially IE7 and IE6 are notorious for incurring a high cost relative to how modern your website is.
Oh, believe me, I know all about how annoying it can be to support multiple browsers, but older firefox and IE7 aren't going to break unless you do something to break them. I guess I'm just surprised they'd come out and say upgrade your stuff before anything even goes wrong
Yes, but they are. Each time new functionality gets added to a website, it can "break" older browsers in that aspect. It depends on what the functionality is, how many of the browser bugs you'll encounter, and such. Usually, every addition means an extra 5% to 40% spent on supporting an older browser. If you try to support multiple old browsers, that percentage goes up. If you support everything but IE6/IE7, that percentage goes way down.
It's all about cost really; it is economically viable to support older browsers? It depends on your userbase; how many of them are using broken browsers like Internet Explorer?
Seems true, but modern technology (like the HTML5 video/audio tags) still isn't supported in Internet Explorer 8, so that can't be it.
However, a big point is that Internet Explorer is usually the browser used by people who can't upgrade; they're at work for example, and have to do with whatever they have because the old intranet won't function otherwise. People who know enough to use modern browsers usually either have the ability to update to a newer version, or have it updated by the ICT department -- those browsers don't affect the use of an old intranet; you could use IE for that.
IE8 has become a stable product yes. At the least, it's more stable, efficient and easy to use then older IE versions, even if it doesn't support modern web technologies yet.
It depends on their userbase; if the userbase doesn't use old browsers much and youtube is willing to bet on the fact that they'll upgrade, it isn't such a stupid move; it'll save time and costs, the less time one has to hack their website for older browsers (and accompanying bugs and faults), the more time can be spent on the development of new features.
However, I still don't think this is somethine YouTube'll actually do; they neither have the guts for it, nor the userbase that would make such a move doable. If most of your users use IE (at work, for example), you can't simply tell them to upgrade; they won't -- they can't.
I call bullshit too. The topic starter is obviously a joker with his smiling cartoon Raptor.
I've seen this mentioned several other places on the web. I think it's legit when you're using IE6.
I could understand them dropping support for older browsers as time went along e.g IE5 or 6, Mozilla 7 etc, but you normally see support for the current generation -1 one so the clever move would to be say IE7 and Firefox 2.
Ever noticed what the recommendations are for TrekBBS? IE7+ and FF2+
It's legit. My company still has to use IE6, and the message shows up there. But I also use Firefox 3.0.9, and it doesn't show up there. The message isn't specific as to which browser versions they are dropping support for, only directing you to where you can find the *latest* versions of some browsers. I think they're still going to support Firefox 3.0 and IE7, but FF2 and IE6 are out.
I call bullshit too. The topic starter is obviously a joker with his smiling cartoon Raptor.
I've seen this mentioned several other places on the web. I think it's legit when you're using IE6.
I'm running version 7.0.5730.11 of IE at home and I see the message.
I'm running version 7.0.5730.13 of IE at work and I DON'T see the message.
^^ Just use a modern browser then, you won't see the message at all. 
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