Your Shot Down Theories

[Mojochi]

Well, this show has sparked theorist's imaginations for 6 years, like no other show I've ever heard of. I'm sure many of us have predicted a thing or two very well, but this thread isn't about that

So lets have it. What were some of your most hair brained, ill conceived theories, that have now been shot down?

At different times over the past two seasons I was convinced that both Richard Alpert, & Christian Shepard were time shifters

Once Hurley started having the dead people visions, I was certain that his imaginary friend Dave, from the psych ward, was actually Libby's deceased husband David, & the reason she was in Santa Rosa was because she found out he could communicate with him

In fact, unless they specifically shoot that one down, which I'm thinking they might not, I'm going to keep believing it

 

[RoJoHen]

I am still not convinced that MiB and Christian are the same person.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Which one of you guys had the invisible jump jet theory before smokey was revealed?

 

[spinnerlys]

After meeting Rousseau, I thought they would go into the madness direction, the hatch wasn't that prevalent then in my mind.

I was kinda disappointed when it didn't manifest though, even when they introduced the others at the end of season one and again in season two. But when season three started, it was clear (and sixty days have been gone by), that madness of the mind was not the direction. But at least we got some kind of madness.

And the smoke monster is nothing more than a distraught NY taxi cab anyway. You'll see.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Which one of you guys had the invisible jump jet theory before smokey was revealed?

I wondered how long it would take you people to bring that up. You are nothing if not predictable.

I was convinced that Rose's comment about Smokey being familiar to a Bronx-dweller like herself was highly significant and related either to elevated trains, the Bronx Zoo, or perhaps both. Was Smokey a cyborg elephant for instance?

I was rooting for the notion that everything we saw was based on not-too-futuristic tech. I like the wild way they took things, but to keep it realistic would have been an interesting challenge to see them pull off.

I also liked the idea that the island was under the Antarctic; that it was an alien spaceship zoo (the reason that the compasses didn't work was that they were no longer in Earth's magnetic field - damn, now I remember, I really liked that idea!); and that it was a simulation and the cable Sayid found leading into the ocean was the power cord.

I also thought the island might be partly sentient because a chunk of a Solaris-type planet crash landed in the Pacific and formed part or all of the island. Not quite shot down, I guess. We still have no solid explanation for why the "golden magic light" is down there.

A very favorite theory of mine is that the island is a nexus between realities and the reason it's hard to get to is that there's just one heading from each reality and you have to hit it exactly or all you see is open ocean. And has this theory been shot down? What was the explanation for all the fuss over headings - has there been one?

My favorite theory of all, not quite shot down, is that the "faked" 815 crash was real after all, and those bodies are all the real characters. Hey, if the flashsideways are the afterlife...

In the not-shot-down theory department, Hurley and Sayid's conversation about the Big Band music they heard on the radio convinced me that the show was veering into time travel.

 

[spinnerlys]

I was convinced that Rose's comment about Smokey being familiar to a Bronx-dweller like herself was highly significant and related either to elevated trains, the Bronx Zoo, or perhaps both. Was Smokey a cyborg elephant for instance?

Maybe it's because the sound that smokey makes sounds similar to a ticketing machine in a NY taxi cab?

 

[Mojochi]

I was also certain that Arzt's warning about Monsoon season was going to become a reality, at least until I saw the Webisode where he admits he made that up

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I was convinced that Rose's comment about Smokey being familiar to a Bronx-dweller like herself was highly significant and related either to elevated trains, the Bronx Zoo, or perhaps both. Was Smokey a cyborg elephant for instance?

Maybe it's because the sound that smokey makes sounds similar to a ticketing machine in a NY taxi cab?

I was thinking, elevated train X trumpeting elephant.

I was also certain that Arzt's warning about Monsoon season

I've completely forgotten about that! What was his warning? How could he know they were in the path of a monsoon if nobody knew where they were?

In S1 before they explored the whole island, I thought it would be funny if there was a Club Med on the other side and they never knew about it.

I thought of another one - the whispers! The Losties could have been in some kind of almost-visible parallel reality adjacent to the real reality, and the whispers were simply people on the island in the real reality. They could have been right in the middle of Club Med, or on Oahu (ha ha) and simply not be able to perceive the people, roads, cars, buildings, etc around them, and nobody from the real reality could see them either. Smokey could have just been the local bus.

 

[Mojochi]

I was also certain that Arzt's warning about Monsoon season

I've completely forgotten about that! What was his warning? How could he know they were in the path of a monsoon if nobody knew where they were?

They essentially knew they were roughly a few thousand miles or so, from Sydney. All I really remember is Arzt coming over to the raft & telling them that they were on the cusp of monsoon season, & giving them some rant about needing to get launched before the trade winds shifted from northerly to southerly, otherwise they would have to wait four months, before they could launch, in order to not end up heading toward Antarctica

I remember waiting & waiting for the monsoons to come & they never did. I was so disappointed, that they seemingly let that drop, & then one day, around the time of season 4, I saw this on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHZdIQAqjlI
& then my disappointment turned into a literal ROFL moment. I sure do wish they had kept making webisodes

In S1 before they explored the whole island, I thought it would be funny if there was a Club Med on the other side and they never knew about it.

There sort of was

 

[Mallet]

I had thought for awhile that the survivors were in a real life Schrodinger's Cat type situation. Each of them neither Alive nor Dead until they made a certain choice that would decide whether they lived or died or escaped the Island or not. The "whispers" were caused by the Lostie's strange quantum state and the bleeding in of alternate realities/events. The Monster was a natural chaos or quantum "flux" trying to decide their fate for them and cancel out any of the improbabilities of their existence.

The Others were alive and take those people they thought deserved to survive and saving them from the uncertainty of their current state. Ben's magic box sort of fitted in to it. Dharma research into strange phenomena and theoretical physics played apart. The numbers were part of a probability equation that could be used to change probability and event outcomes (like winning the lottery, etc...) and why so many of the people on the flight were connected in some strange way.

Theory partly influenced by the Infinite Improbability Drive and other such nonsense from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy novel.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

My big theory during season 3 was that The Island was passive entity that guided people towards it and then judged whether they were worthy of earning its healing powers, physical, mental, or spiritual. Those it deemed unworthy (whether immediately or after they did something later) were killed. I wish this was the direction the show went with instead of the cosmic battle we're getting instead.

 

[Hober Mallow]

For a long time, I thought there were two types of Others: indigenous peoples, and normal people like Ben and Juliet who were brought to the island. I was convinced Richard was one of the indigenous people. They were long-lived, each living possibly hundreds of years, possessed incredible strength, and they had an advanced way to communicate with each other on an almost purely mental level, which sounded like rapid overlapping whispers to normal people.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

They essentially knew they were roughly a few thousand miles or so, from Sydney. All I really remember is Arzt coming over to the raft & telling them that they were on the cusp of monsoon season, & giving them some rant about needing to get launched before the trade winds shifted from northerly to southerly, otherwise they would have to wait four months, before they could launch, in order to not end up heading toward Antarctica

Well...that assumes they were where they were "supposed" to be...but I guess that early on, they had no suspicions to the contrary.

More theories: I thought the Big Band music might indicate that the plane crash had taken them to the 1940s and WWII was on, and the island would eventually find itself in the path of some battle or other. And that Adam & Eve were Amelia Erhardt and Fred Noonan. For some reason, I thought the hatch was built from a WWII era submarine.

I figured that Richard was a survivor of the Black Rock, but I also thought that Mr. Friendly, Alex's boyfriend, and Mrs. Klugh (whatever happened to her, anyway?) were survivors as well. And I didn't think they were immortal but that they had accidentally time travelled to the island fairly recently.

I had thought for awhile that the survivors were in a real life Schrodinger's Cat type situation. Each of them neither Alive nor Dead until they made a certain choice that would decide whether they lived or died or escaped the Island or not.

Oooh! Cool idea!

 

[Hober Mallow]

Yeah, I thought Mr. Friendly might be from the Black Rock, maybe even the captain. He seemed very piratey his first few appearances.

 

[Mallet]

and Mrs. Klugh (whatever happened to her, anyway?)

She was shot and killed by Eye-Patch outside his house when Locke, Sayid & Kate took her hostage and got into a stand off with Eye-Patch. She told Eye-Patch to kill her.

Which also raises the question, given what we know now about the Others and their infighting and the fact that they are really just normal people for the most part, why would she have been so willing to give her life for the cause? That's pretty extreme loyalty to Ben and the Others. I don't think we've seen any other of the Others that would be so hard core that they would ask their own friend to kill them, rather then being taken captive. Especially since the Others could mount a big rescue mission to save her any time they wanted.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

What the heck is the Others' motivation, anyway? I do recall wondering if they'd all been infected by the disease, which is some sort of mind-control rather than an actual disease...

 

[Velocity]

I thought that the whispers were the result of the time travelers occupying the same space as our heroes with sound bleeding through the layers of time.

 

[RoJoHen]

What the heck is the Others' motivation, anyway?

With this most recent episode, I still have to wonder exactly where the Others came from. Was Jacob and MiB's birth mother a member of the original Others, or were they yet another group of people? And how did they come to be so attached to the Island? At what point did Jacob become their "leader?" I find this particularly odd since MiB was the one who lived with them his whole [human] life.

 

[Mallet]

What the heck is the Others' motivation, anyway?

With this most recent episode, I still have to wonder exactly where the Others came from. Was Jacob and MiB's birth mother a member of the original Others, or were they yet another group of people? And how did they come to be so attached to the Island? At what point did Jacob become their "leader?" I find this particularly odd since MiB was the one who lived with them his whole [human] life.

Yeah, A lot of stuff doesn't make sense at this point (especially after last episode) hopefully they will answer some of this stuff.

 

[trekkiebaggio]

What the heck is the Others' motivation, anyway?

With this most recent episode, I still have to wonder exactly where the Others came from. Was Jacob and MiB's birth mother a member of the original Others, or were they yet another group of people? And how did they come to be so attached to the Island? At what point did Jacob become their "leader?" I find this particularly odd since MiB was the one who lived with them his whole [human] life.

I think that happens after Richard's arrival. I think that Jacob brought groups of people to the island, and then MiB killed them. After Jacob brought the Black Rock to the island MiB tried to use Richard to kill him. Then Richard suggested to Jacob to take a more involved role, and then Jacob appointed Richard his intermediary. (I'm pretty sure that's what happened in Ab Aeterno). So presumably after that The Others begin to form. But there's still a lot of history that we're missing.