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Your postmortem thoughts on DISCO

"Let's have a therapy session in the middle of a crisis" is probably going to be what Discovery's writing in latter seasons is remembered for.
Probably once again time to post this 1960s gem from the New York Times review of the original Star Trek, “‘Star Trek’ makes clear that life in space will probably be more traumatic than on earth. […] The accent was less on the super-duper gadgetry usually associated with travel in the heavens than on astronautical soap opera that suffers from interminable flight drag. It was TV’s first psychodrama in orbit”
 
Which is something that has occurred across multiple shows. It bothers me more that this is considered offensive.
No series had their shrink sessions with crew in the middle of a crisis anywhere nearly as often as DISCO. It's one of the reasons why I can never take those 'officers' seriously as professionals. It made Starfleet look like a damn joke.
 
No series had their shrink sessions with crew in the middle of a crisis anywhere nearly as often as DISCO. It's one of the reasons why I can never take those 'officers' seriously as professionals. It made Starfleet look like a damn joke.
I was talking more modern shows besides Star Trek but we see McCoy counseling Kirk in Balance of Terror too.

I see "shrink sessions" done across different genres right during stressful moments so I don't find it bad.
 
I was talking more modern shows besides Star Trek but we see McCoy counseling Kirk in Balance of Terror too.

I see "shrink sessions" done across different genres right during stressful moments so I don't find it bad.
And when McCoy was talking to Kirk, it was during the long wait for the Romulan to make a move and it was in private, in Kirk's quarters. It wasn't on the bridge in the middle of a battle.
 
And when McCoy was talking to Kirk, it was during the long wait for the Romulan to make a move and it was in private, in Kirk's quarters. It wasn't on the bridge in the middle of a battle.
So the middle of a battle is the problem?

I guess I will agree to disagree. It doesn't bother me because I've seen it all across shows and films of things being paused during a crisis to have a heart to heart.

Different strokes, etc
 
So the middle of a battle is the problem?

I guess I will agree to disagree. It doesn't bother me because I've seen it all across shows and films of things being paused during a crisis to have a heart to heart.

Different strokes, etc
Or in the middle of a crisis with a ticking clock (in some cases, a literal one, like Stamets in "Face the Strange"). It makes the Starfleet officers seem amateurish and not professionals, especially since nearly all of them are Lt. Commanders and above.

It's the equivalent of an ER doctor losing it in the middle of a dozen patients that just got brought in. People in fields where situations like that occur are trained to take care of the issue at hand, not need a shrink session while people are bleeding out in front of them. You can have an issue and it can affect you... but on your own time. Doing that in the middle of a crisis costs lives. Same with cops, firefighters, etc. If someone needed help from one of these people in an emergency (fire at your home, your kid needing urgent medical care, etc.), I don't think anyone would be comfortable having said person losing their shit when they are supposed to be doing their jobs.


We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
I don't think anyone would be comfortable having said person losing their shit when they are supposed to be doing their jobs.
To clarify, it's not a matter of comfort but understanding, especially in dramatic form. See it happen in MASH too. Yes, it's dramatic and it is meant to be.

I don't think it's amateurish to happen but that's my own perspective in terms of drama.
 
The plot of the first season, with the war with the Klingons was very boring. Instead of that, Paramount should have focused on exploration and talking about some common topics. For example, the consequences of the augment virus.
I actually quite liked the Klingon war plot. My main complaint is that it wrapped up a little too neatly, and the mirror universe plot competed with it for attention.
 
I actually quite liked the Klingon war plot. My main complaint is that it wrapped up a little too neatly, and the mirror universe plot competed with it for attention.
Yes. Season 1 Klingon War, Season 2 spore drive and Mirror Universe.
 
Trying to get through season 5 again. Those space station interiors look like the inside of a fancy washing machine.
 
It had a big problem from the start by being pigeon holed into existing lore. You've established a universe, just like you would have had in any other series. In science fiction, you can literally go anywhere in the future. Why is Star Trek stuck in the same three hundred year span?

The Klingon war was meh. Outside of grafting Voq onto Tyler pretty brutally, there was nothing new here. We love Klingons, but at the same time, they had been done to death.

The mirror Lorca reveal was another "come on" moment. Jason Isaacs is a well known, decent actor. Why did we have to make him a one dimensional moustache twirling villain instead of perhaps exploring some PTSD with some depth? Same with Georgiou. She didn't have to die in the premiere, they could've had the experience break her & go down a path like that.

The second season was probably the best, except for the need to have Michael be part of Spock's family and making him such an integral piece. I know we don't get SNW if we don't do this, but if you are not stuck in this point in time, you could still have her be mentored or adopted by a Vulcan, like Tuvok.

As the series went on, the powers that be seemed to try to pile on the progressive storylines, which in theory is not bad. But Adira was so poorly written, basically to be Stamets & Tilly's scene partner. Their relationship with Gray was painfully boring & again Gray becoming trans (I guess), it didn't need fan fare, but again, it was so painfully boring, it just wasn't earned at all.

By the fifth season, you get Rayner and you are just begging for him to be the captain. They are all one big happy family and he looks like the frustrated Archie Bunker. You don't know anything about any of the bridge crew to make you care and half of them get replaced mid-season.

Discovery really needed to knock it out of the park being the first Star Trek series in a decade, but it never got on track.
 
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