Your postmortem thoughts on DISCO

[The Rock]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that that rape scene where the female Klingon raped that guy didn't belong at all in Star Trek. Was it necessary to show it in such graphic detail (even going so far as to show her nude)?! In Star Trek, implications of horrific incidents have been far more effective than actually showing said horrific incidents IMO.

 

[Quantum21]

Just happened along today on some info. Well over a year after season 5 Discovery signed off, the show is still in the Paramount + top 10 for "engagement".

I think that's a pretty good post-mortem.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that that rape scene where the female Klingon raped that guy didn't belong at all in Star Trek. Was it necessary to show it in such graphic detail (even going so far as to show her nude)?! In Star Trek, implications of horrific incidents have been far more effective than actually showing said horrific incidents IMO.

Prosthetic boobs do not equate to nudity and let's not forget that Tasha Yar was raised on a planet with "rape gangs", and that was back in the '80s.

 

[The Rock]

Prosthetic boobs do not equate to nudity and let's not forget that Tasha Yar was raised on a planet with "rape gangs", and that was back in the '80s.

The difference is that they never actually showed any of the rapes. Just mentioning them was more than enough to get across how horrible they were.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The difference is that they never actually showed any of the rapes. Just mentioning them was more than enough to get across how horrible they were.

What about all the times that Troi was mind raped? And people are clearly overstating how "graphic" the scene in Discovery actually was. We're talking about what, a second or two of screen time? What Spock did to Valaris in Star Trek VI was more visually disturbing.

 

[Uncle Sock]

Discovery was good enough for me to have watched every episode at least once. But I find myself never going back to rewatch it, which is odd because I go back to all the others (some of them a lot).

I will forever love Discovery for giving us Pike and Strange New Worlds. I loved Admiral Cornwell, but hated that she was killed off, even though her death was heroic indeed. I wish we had seen more of Airiam, who was killed off as well, unfortunately.

I never cared for the 31st century stuff. I also never cared for Emperor Georgiou. Would have loved it if Yeoh had simply stayed on as Captain Georgiou. Didn't like the characters of Tilly and Reno and the human with the symbiont in later seasons whose name I can't recall.

All in all, I feel like Discovery focused more on visuals than characters, and I also feel like it focused more on melodrama than the philosophical undertones I was used to from the Berman era-Trek. Discovery is still Trek, and with the greater emotional maturity I have achieved in the almost 10 years since it first aired, I can see the Trek elements in Discovery. But all in all, Discovery is at the very bottom of the list of Trek shows I like.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Exactly what it says on the tin.

Basically, in hindsight, what did you think of DISCO as a whole?

By far the weakest Trek series of them all, and personally speaking, the only truly bad one.

Granted, my visceral dislike of the first two seasons is speaking here, but I can't for the life think about any time I would want to revisit this dreck anytime soon. Its a wreck of a show, and I stopped watching it when it was new halfway through the first season. I've seen it since, but basically, anything and everything wrong about NuTrek (or KurtzmanTrek) can be traced here.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

It was a chore to watch and after finally accepting that I don't need to watch everything just because it has "Star Trek" in the title I stopped after season 3.

The major problem was that they wanted to do a prequel but not accept the limitations of a prequel. Redesigning the Klingons, shoehorning Spock into the story, advanced technology etc.
Sure, they addressed some of it but their fixes seemed contrived and lame; at least to me.

Then they got rid off the prequel-limitations (while ironically repeating the same mistake with SNW) with the jump into the far future but for me it was a bit too far and I couldn't get onboard with their 32nd century aesthetics.

Characters were either grating or bland (the only character I liked was Jett Reno) and while I appreciate Discovery's effort for more LGTBQI representation I found their couples lacking chemistry.

And really "The Michael Burnham Show" would've been a far more appropriate name for the show.

This actually sums it up much better.

 

[Quantum21]

Discovery was good enough for me to have watched every episode at least once. But I find myself never going back to rewatch it, which is odd because I go back to all the others (some of them a lot).

I will forever love Discovery for giving us Pike and Strange New Worlds. I loved Admiral Cornwell, but hated that she was killed off, even though her death was heroic indeed. I wish we had seen more of Airiam, who was killed off as well, unfortunately.

I never cared for the 31st century stuff. I also never cared for Emperor Georgiou. Would have loved it if Yeoh had simply stayed on as Captain Georgiou. Didn't like the characters of Tilly and Reno and the human with the symbiont in later seasons whose name I can't recall.

All in all, I feel like Discovery focused more on visuals than characters, and I also feel like it focused more on melodrama than the philosophical undertones I was used to from the Berman era-Trek. Discovery is still Trek, and with the greater emotional maturity I have achieved in the almost 10 years since it first aired, I can see the Trek elements in Discovery. But all in all, Discovery is at the very bottom of the list of Trek shows I like.

I've rewatched many episodes, and each season at least once. Eventually I'll do a full season 5 rewatch. It's one of Trek's most rewatch able shows in my opinion because it's so dense with plot points, information, asides, etc. By comparison, TOS for example is very straightforward.

Discovery, despite taking a different path, is closer to TNG's sensibility than even Picard, which sort of does a tracing paper version, but with heavier lines.

 

[Uncle Sock]

I've rewatched many episodes, and each season at least once. Eventually I'll do a full season 5 rewatch. It's one of Trek's most rewatch able shows in my opinion because it's so dense with plot points, information, asides, etc. By comparison, TOS for example is very straightforward.

Discovery, despite taking a different path, is closer to TNG's sensibility than even Picard, which sort of does a tracing paper version, but with heavier lines.

I'm curious. What are your favorite episodes?

 

[Quantum21]

I'm curious. What are your favorite episodes?

First Season: The pilot, Context is for Kings, The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry, Into the Forest I Go, Despite Yourself.

Second: Everything after: If Memory Serves.

Third: That Hope Is You, Part 1, Su'Kal

Fourth: Rosetta, Species Ten-C, Coming Home

Fifth: Under the Twin Moons, Face the Strange, Life, Itself

 

[ananta]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that that rape scene where the female Klingon raped that guy didn't belong at all in Star Trek. Was it necessary to show it in such graphic detail (even going so far as to show her nude)?! In Star Trek, implications of horrific incidents have been far more effective than actually showing said horrific incidents IMO.

It wasn’t a rape though, was it…? L’Rell and Voq were lovers?