What did you think about him warning the Federation in "The Defector"?
Your Opinion On Admiral Jarok
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I wonder what kind of epiphany he had. From what we heard in the episode, he was some kind of butcher when he was an active Romulan fleet commander. Something must have happened to him to make him rethink that.
Yeah, apparently he had some major second thoughts about how the Empire operates, for it to be so obvious in his actions & behavior, that they'd be willing to orchestrate a trap for him, after having already reassigned him away from significant service. They must have considered him a threat or danger to their plans, & it seems with good reason, as his loyalty wasn't unconditional, & failed their test
I believe he mentioned raising concerns amongst his leaders, & being disregarded. I imagine a longer history of evidence supporting an aggressive strategy toward the UFP had existed, before the fake material that finally duped him
Frankly, he is rather lacking in savvy for a Romulan, if he never considered he could be deceived by... Romulans, especially after having been public about his dissent. How could he think he'd go unchecked?
I believe he mentioned raising concerns amongst his leaders, & being disregarded. I imagine a longer history of evidence supporting an aggressive strategy toward the UFP had existed, before the fake material that finally duped him
Frankly, he is rather lacking in savvy for a Romulan, if he never considered he could be deceived by... Romulans, especially after having been public about his dissent. How could he think he'd go unchecked?
A parallel to the book 'Alas Babylon'. Quite interesting (and for the time, well done) novel about a small Florida community struggling to survive a US-Soviet nuclear war and general aftermath.
In the lead-up, the main character's brother (a USAF colonel) talks about all the trends and warning signs. He also refers to a Russian general who defected to the US the year before. Reveals the man was not a traitor at all, just someone who saw the mad direction his leaders were taking, and doing what he could to prevent the conflict from happening.
Quite likely a similar thing happening with Jarok. He is clearly war-weary to start with, and has become more than a little disillusioned by his leaders. But if he truly believed that the Empire would continue to survive and even thrive on its present course, he would not have taken the actions that he did.
I also admire him. Dying heroically, knowing that you will be mourned and honoured by many, is one thing. Doing what you KNOW is right, in full knowledge that you will be forever branded "TRAITOR" by family and friends even if things go right, is another level of courage.
In the lead-up, the main character's brother (a USAF colonel) talks about all the trends and warning signs. He also refers to a Russian general who defected to the US the year before. Reveals the man was not a traitor at all, just someone who saw the mad direction his leaders were taking, and doing what he could to prevent the conflict from happening.
Quite likely a similar thing happening with Jarok. He is clearly war-weary to start with, and has become more than a little disillusioned by his leaders. But if he truly believed that the Empire would continue to survive and even thrive on its present course, he would not have taken the actions that he did.
I also admire him. Dying heroically, knowing that you will be mourned and honoured by many, is one thing. Doing what you KNOW is right, in full knowledge that you will be forever branded "TRAITOR" by family and friends even if things go right, is another level of courage.
Also occurs to me. In 'The Neutral Zone', Deanna refers to the Roms as being counter-punchers by preference. Now wondering if the Tal Shiar was playing a deeper game here than simply outing and discrediting a single "traitor".
Consider that if a major "incident" with a Federation starship had resulted - and that a known "peacenik / traitor" had been involved (on the wrong side, mind you) - then the whole notion of peace with the UFP would seem a lot less palatable to most Roms. Which would probably suit certain individuals and factions very nicely, and others less so.
Consider that if a major "incident" with a Federation starship had resulted - and that a known "peacenik / traitor" had been involved (on the wrong side, mind you) - then the whole notion of peace with the UFP would seem a lot less palatable to most Roms. Which would probably suit certain individuals and factions very nicely, and others less so.
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