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You May Hate Superman Returns. But this have been so much worse.

One of the funniest things about Kevin Smith's telling of his experience is when he says that Peters ordered him not to show Superman flying because he thought it was "gay" or maybe that was the costume...so he wrote in the script that we see a red/blue blur streaking across the screen! Hmm...Red/Blue Blur where I have heard that term before?

Wasn't this the film where the plan was for Superman to have a black costume and silver S shield?

Which I think was used in the Death and Life of Superman series (I've got the novelisation so now sure what the actual comic run was called).

Supes wore a black suit with a sliver shield when he returned from the dead during that story arc. It is probably where the movie people got the idea.
 
No cape...
Black suit...
No flying...

If we ever see a giant spider or some polar bears near the fortress, Smallville might be everything John Peters ever wanted in a live-action Superman
 
I wonder how long it's going to take the powers-that-be to realize people don't want superhero movies to be "re-imagined" for the big screen. That instead they just want to see the characters and stories from the comic books adapted to a new medium. And, of particular note, that it doesn't take massive rewriting of the characters or stories to make that happen.

Is it really that hard a concept to grasp?
 
I wonder how long it's going to take the powers-that-be to realize people don't want superhero movies to be "re-imagined" for the big screen. That instead they just want to see the characters and stories from the comic books adapted to a new medium. And, of particular note, that it doesn't take massive rewriting of the characters or stories to make that happen.

Is it really that hard a concept to grasp?

Yeah, but what you say sounds a bit like common sense, so ...
 
I actually kinda like Burton's take on things. At least it would have been an interesting, stylish failure instead of an insipid, milquetoast failure.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Maybe as an Elseworlds movie, but the fact is that we only get a Superman film once every couple of decades, so I'd take the "milquetoast failure" over the Burton project any day. At least Singer's project was made with a lot of passion behind it (even if that didn't necessarily translate to the screen).
 
Yeah, I mean, at least this would have been interesting.

Oh, absolutely. Probably as interesting as Burton's take on Planet of the Apes...

Is that really a positive selling point? :p

Uh... no. Which was my point. :devil:

Burton is all style and no substance. He should stay away from pop culture material like it was plutonium. He blew Batman, turned Sleepy Hollow into a beautiful but completely pointless movie about multiple decapitations, creeped everyone and their mother out with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and made Planet of the Apes a completely incomprehensible snore-fest. Burton needs to just stick to his own weird little fantasies about dressing Johnny Depp up in gothy costumes and heavy makeup.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Checkmate said:
I wonder how long it's going to take the powers-that-be to realize people don't want superhero movies to be "re-imagined" for the big screen. That instead they just want to see the characters and stories from the comic books adapted to a new medium. And, of particular note, that it doesn't take massive rewriting of the characters or stories to make that happen.

Is it really that hard a concept to grasp?

I don't think it's really quite true though. First of all, with someone like Superman especially, there's 70 years of comic stories, so which ones do you (or studio heads) think are the ones people want to see? Secondly, no one reads comics any more so why should studio execs think that those tales will have the broad appeal necessary to sell a movie to a mass audience? Thirdly, the comic stories that are being produced today are byzantine, crossed-over soap operas that have generally taken years to unfold and rarely have a decent ending, if they have anything resembling an ending at all - these are not only not easy to translate into a movie format, they're not worth translating into a movie format because they're bad stories.

I'll agree that people want a fairly straight up interpretation of a character - meaning they don't want a killer Superman in a black suit riding a motorcycle (why not just make a Lobo movie in that case anyway?) But as for adaptations of comic stories for the movie script, I'm not so sure. I mean, I get why it's hard to bring a good Superman or Wonder Woman to the screen. Try it yourself sometime - just write a two or three page treatment of a movie and post it here. See how many people think it's cool and you'll get a taste of what studio execs are dealing with trying to figure this out, except they're trying to please 5000 times as many people.
 
Try it yourself sometime - just write a two or three page treatment of a movie and post it here. See how many people think it's cool and you'll get a taste of what studio execs are dealing with trying to figure this out, except they're trying to please 5000 times as many people.

That's actually not a bad idea for a thread.
 
I've written a few Superman scripts. I think they were fairly received.

That's only because you've featured Superman fighting a giant spider in each one.

;)

Ha. Seriously, I re-wrote Superman Returns a few times under the title The Last Son and a sequel within the film's continuity entitled The Man of Steel. I'm also currently outlining an entirely new trilogy of Superman scripts because I have no life. ;)

All of which I have shared on this forum over the years and all of which I'd have no problem sharing again.
 
I've written a few Superman scripts. I think they were fairly received.

That's only because you've featured Superman fighting a giant spider in each one.

;)

Ha. Seriously, I re-wrote Superman Returns a few times under the title The Last Son and a sequel within the film's continuity entitled The Man of Steel. I'm also currently outlining an entirely new trilogy of Superman scripts because I have no life. ;)

All of which I have shared on this forum over the years and all of which I'd have no problem sharing again.

I remember reading at least one of your Man of Steel drafts. I liked a lot of the directions you took with it (turning Luthor into the businessman; the female Eradicator, etc).

I, too, have no life (outside of graduate school), and have been toying with potential Superman movie stories myself. I'd love to trade notes with you sometime. Or at least bounce ideas of you.
 
That's only because you've featured Superman fighting a giant spider in each one.

;)

Ha. Seriously, I re-wrote Superman Returns a few times under the title The Last Son and a sequel within the film's continuity entitled The Man of Steel. I'm also currently outlining an entirely new trilogy of Superman scripts because I have no life. ;)

All of which I have shared on this forum over the years and all of which I'd have no problem sharing again.

I remember reading at least one of your Man of Steel drafts. I liked a lot of the directions you took with it (turning Luthor into the businessman; the female Eradicator, etc).

I, too, have no life (outside of graduate school), and have been toying with potential Superman movie stories myself. I'd love to trade notes with you sometime. Or at least bounce ideas of you.

Of course! I actually do have about a million different things going on but I'm always open to sharing notes and ideas.
 
Yeah I am sorry but it is not hard to make a Superman movie. Just make a Superman movie and not what you want for a Superman. End of story.

I am sure there are many people in Hollyweird that can write a Superman movie tomorrow.
 
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