Yesterday's Enterprise

[backstept]

it was only 22 years between Narendra 3 and the events of the episode . . .
I'm assuming that some of the TNG crew were in Starfleet 22 years prior, so they would have at some point worn the movie era uniforms, right?

 

[Satyrquaze]

Picard was shown wearing a movie era uniform multiple times. Most notably in the episode: "Tapestry".

 

[sojourner]

Wesley's father also wore the movie era uniform and he was a friend of Picard's so it can be assumed that Dr. Crusher at some point wore the uniform as well. Unless she joined Starfleet after having Wesley.

 

[Satyrquaze]

^ Yeah, I think everyone else on the TNG crew is far too young.

EDIT:

There's this. Hope it helps.

 

[Satyrquaze]

No idea, but it's worth noting that Riker was born 30 years after Picard. So, it's possible that the change in uniforms happened at any time during that 30 years... or at any time afterward.

Assuming that Picard applied to Star Fleet Academy right out of Highschool and failed in his first attempt and that it is indeed a four year institution. He would about 23 when he graduated. And Riker wouldn't be born for another 7 years.

Given how often they've changed the uniforms from TNG to Nemesis...

 

[Anwar]

It is strange, they changed the Uniforms four times from "The Cage" to the TOS Movies (30 years) and then kept using that same design for the next 70 years or so.

 

[Satyrquaze]

There is a slight variation between STVI and Yesterday's Enterprise.

I noticed that Captain Garrett wasn't wearing the turtleneck undershirt.

 

[RyuRoots]

It is strange, they changed the Uniforms four times from "The Cage" to the TOS Movies (30 years) and then kept using that same design for the next 70 years or so.

Well, the real explanation is that there was no Star Trek set during those ~70 years, but it does seem funny from an in-universe perspective considering the uniform-changing pace of both the TOS and TNG era.

 

[Anwar]

Let's see:

2250s: The "Cage" style uniforms.

2260s: Classic Trek

2270s: TMP Gray Pajama Uniforms

2280s-2340s: WOK Era Uniforms

2340s-2360s: WOK era Uniforms but without the Turtlenecks and belts

2360s: TNG S1-S2 Uniforms

2360s: TNG s3-S7 Uniforms, DS9/VOY Uniforms

2370s: TNG Movie era uniforms.

Damn, the WOK Uniforms had a long run...

 

[Satyrquaze]

^ They were pretty stylish and probably popular.

I imagine the jump in the 2360s? to the S1 TNG uniform was probably not a popular one.

Course after that, the Admiral's uniform changed something like 3 times in 3 years?

 

[Bishop76]

^ they were the best looking of the bunch.

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

Let's see:

2250s: The "Cage" style uniforms.

2260s: Classic Trek

2270s: TMP Gray Pajama Uniforms

2280s-2340s: WOK Era Uniforms

2340s-2360s: WOK era Uniforms but without the Turtlenecks and belts

2360s: TNG S1-S2 Uniforms

2360s: TNG s3-S7 Uniforms, DS9/VOY Uniforms

2370s: TNG Movie era uniforms.

Damn, the WOK Uniforms had a long run...

Anwar,

No offense, but in the Season 1 TNG episode "The Neutral Zone" didn't Riker inform the 3 Earthlings from the 20th Century that it is the Earth calendar year 2341?


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[Finn]

No. He was only 5 in 2341. Data clearly states it was 2364. It is consistent with Voyager's Eye of the Needle 7 years later, where Chakotay says it's 2371.

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

No. He was only 5 in 2341. Data clearly states it was 2364. It is consistent with Voyager's Eye of the Needle 7 years later, where Chakotay says it's 2371.

Finn,

Okay, thanks. I must have been confusing the calendar year with the stardate 41xxx.x. My apologies Anwar.


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[Timo]

2340s-2360s: WOK era Uniforms but without the Turtlenecks and belts

Actually, by the 2350s our heroes had already ditched the tunics from TWoK: Jack Crusher, killed before 2354, left his earthly belongings to his son in a box that contained his uniform pips (as appropriate for the jumpsuits but not for the collarless tunics), not his uniform shoulder and sleeve strap pins (which called for the tunics for attachment and were never seen worn on other styles of uniform).

We might just as well say that "Yesterday's Enterprise" was the very last hurrah of the maroon tunics, and that Starfleet changed to some other style immediately after the loss of the E-C. Although since Jack Crusher still wore the tunic when dictating a holomessage to his newborn (just-going-to-be-born?) son, we might need to extend the tunic era to the late 2340s.

So it's about 70 years for the tunics, in two styles (with turtleshirt and belt, without turtleshirt and belt), not 90. If we split the styles midway, we still get 35 years per style, which is more than for any other known style.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[USS Excelsior]

Yea it's true that since there were no shows set in the in between time they didn't bother to make any different uniforms, although the ENT-C uniforms could have been some variation of the the TNG uniforms with different combadges and stuff.

In 2327 Tapestry the uniforms still have the belts but no turtleneck, and any 2340's representation doesn't have the belt and their badges are first seen being used as combadges.

Sometime just before the changeover the TWOK uniforms start using the TNG combadges as seen with the Jack Crusher hologram, and because the costuming department couldn't find the right combadge.

As for the original question Data having graduated in 2345 would have worn the TWOK uniform, and Beverly would have worn with Cadet version of it only having graduated in 2350.

O'Brien would have worn that Non-Com version with the red pants at first. And assume that Pulaski would have worn it too.

 

[SchwEnt]

Just remembering that Picard's flashback hallucinations aboard the Stargazer shows that crew in TNG-type uniforms.

Stargazer was lost nine years prior to TNG year one.
Is that right? And Jack Crusher was shown wearing a TWOK-type uniform, around the time of Wesley's birth.

Soooo... somebody can do the math when the change from TWOK jacket uniforms to TNG type happened, roughly between Wesley's birth and nine years prior to TNG first season?

 

[USS Excelsior]

The Jack Crusher hologram was from 2349 which is the latest time that it was shown, and the earliest to see the TNG uniform was 2353 in a photo of the parents of that human boy that was brought up by Telerians.

 

[Galileo7]

NG "Dark Page" had the uniform
here are some links on this subject:

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(late_2270s-2350s)

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/other/movie-uniforms.jpg

 

[USS Excelsior]

And it's a drastic shift to go from that decorative uniform to that spandex $h!t