Yesterday's Enterprise Special effects redone

[Bones1864]

Who thinks that Yesterday's Enterprise " from season 3 should have it's special effects redone ? The Klingon ships were out of scale even though it was explained that they were a different type of Klingon Bird of Prey. It also is worth noting that the NCC-1701-D as the alternate version would be built with far less windows than the regular universe version since it was built in the middle of a war and rushed into service quicker than its counterpart in the regular timeline.
Chain of command from season 6 should get it's special effects redone too. at the end the Cardassian ships in the nebula are not seen but referred to only as i recall. I just pickedd up season 6 on dvd . I'll watch it next chance i get.

 

[Ro_Laren]

I wouldn't mind seeing it, but its not the top of my list. IMO, Yesterday's Enterprise is the best TNG episode. It would be interesting to see them try to "fix it."

 

[DanTheGrey]

Yesterday's Enterprise could be a showpiece. Some better/clearer shots of the Ent-C as well as the Klingon battle and the anomaly.

In general any time you just see the ship firing photon torpedoes "towards" the screen could use a touch up. Not to mention the Romulan Warbird scenes.

 

[Vanyel]

And to actually see the Enterprise-C actually execute evasive maneuvers rather than just sit still even though Lt. Castillio says he did put the ship into evasive maneuvers.

Or seeing the Enterprise-D actually firing all phasers besides the saucer phasers.

Or maybe even a slight redesign to the Enterprise-D, to show that it was made for war e.g. more phasers banks, torpedo launchers things like that.

 

[sbk1234]

I'll be the nay-sayer. Of course, special effects could always be improved upon, but the truth is, there is a HUGE difference between the effects done in the late 60s for TOS and those done in the late 80s and early 90s for TNG. The effects done for TNG still hold up pretty well. There's really no need to remaster them. I don't think it will ever happen.

 

[TeutonicNights]

Of course it will happen, because at some point in the future, they will need to have a HD version, or they'll gonna stop airing TNG altogether.
And btw the first season FX are quite horrible sometimes.
This would also be a great chance to get rid of overused stock footage like flybys, the endless reuse of the Angel One matte or the Tarellian warship and many more.

 

[nx1701g]

sbk1234 said:
I don't think it will ever happen.

When TOS Remastered was first announced Mike Okuda posted on this board that there were plans to do TNG eventually.

 

[Vanyel]

sbk1234 said:
I'll be the nay-sayer. Of course, special effects could always be improved upon, but the truth is, there is a HUGE difference between the effects done in the late 60s for TOS and those done in the late 80s and early 90s for TNG. The effects done for TNG still hold up pretty well. There's really no need to remaster them. I don't think it will ever happen.

Well if not improved, how about corrected. Like the classic mistake of the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher.

 

[John Picard]

Vanyel said:

sbk1234 said:
I'll be the nay-sayer. Of course, special effects could always be improved upon, but the truth is, there is a HUGE difference between the effects done in the late 60s for TOS and those done in the late 80s and early 90s for TNG. The effects done for TNG still hold up pretty well. There's really no need to remaster them. I don't think it will ever happen.

Well if not improved, how about corrected. Like the classic mistake of the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher.

Picky, picky, picky.

 

[Vanyel]

Dismembered Picard said:

Vanyel said:

sbk1234 said:
I'll be the nay-sayer. Of course, special effects could always be improved upon, but the truth is, there is a HUGE difference between the effects done in the late 60s for TOS and those done in the late 80s and early 90s for TNG. The effects done for TNG still hold up pretty well. There's really no need to remaster them. I don't think it will ever happen.

Well if not improved, how about corrected. Like the classic mistake of the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher.

Picky, picky, picky.

I suppose they could call it the alpha version photonic cannon.

 

[Unicron]

Actually, this was the first time the BOP was ever given a specific designation. And I'm still wondering why everyone thinks the phaser effect in "Darmok" has to be a mistake, since we saw the same effect on DS9.

 

[Anwar]

In TOS they fired the phasers and torpedoes out of the same place too sometimes, didn't they?

 

[Vanyel]

Anwar said:
In TOS they fired the phasers and torpedoes out of the same place too sometimes, didn't they?

I think so, but by the time of the movies there is a definite switch to a dedicated torpedo launcher. Also, if I remember correctly, the angle that the phasers fired in the episode Darmok would have hit the Enterprise-D's saucer, or at the very least, clipped it.

 

[Unicron]

Just to clarify, I'm not saying the infamous sequence in "Darmok" couldn't be a mistake. I'm just not totally convinced that running phasers that way is impossible, especially since we saw dual-purpose launchers on DS9. The only argument in favor of it being a mistake is that the beam doesn't normally come from the torpedo bay.

 

[TeutonicNights]

As for my personal "musts" to be improved:

- The battles in "Redemption". Those were god-awful. Badly reused stuff from Star Trek III and IV, Reunion and "Yesterday's Enterprise".
- Basically everything from season one should considered being significally souped up. I mean TOSR makes it look BAD now.
- Yeah Chain of Command. Part one was silly enough (Crusher on a special ops mission? Sure.), but the special effects in both episodes were terrible. And btw, did Geordi place those mines by opening the rear shuttle door and throw them out?
- total crap like "Man of the people" could actually be worth watching again for some eye candy FX. I mean I watched Spock's Brain again for the FX.

There's a lot that can be done with TNG. At least I think there will be much less pesky purists complaining this time.

 

[Vanyel]

Necronomicon said:
Actually, this was the first time the BOP was ever given a specific designation. And I'm still wondering why everyone thinks the phaser effect in "Darmok" has to be a mistake, since we saw the same effect on DS9.

When did that happen?

 

[sbk1234]

Vanyel said:

Dismembered Picard said:

Vanyel said:

sbk1234 said:
I'll be the nay-sayer. Of course, special effects could always be improved upon, but the truth is, there is a HUGE difference between the effects done in the late 60s for TOS and those done in the late 80s and early 90s for TNG. The effects done for TNG still hold up pretty well. There's really no need to remaster them. I don't think it will ever happen.

Well if not improved, how about corrected. Like the classic mistake of the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher.

Picky, picky, picky.

I suppose they could call it the alpha version photonic cannon.

I just think it's great that I generated this much controversy! :thumbsup:

 

[The Old Mixer]

I wouldn't mind seeing a little more variety in the matte paintings. How many times did they use that same "futuristic city" painting with the boxy building in the foreground with the radar dish on top of it?

 

[FalTorPan]

It would be fun to see the effects redone with the Enterprise-C based on Andrew Probert's design for the ship. I like Rick Sternbach's design for the Ambassador-class starship a great deal -- and I have tremendous admiration for Sternbach as a designer and illustrator -- but I prefer Probert's version of this particular ship.

And given the dialogue, the ships seem maddeningly static in their movements.

 

[TeutonicNights]

The Old Mixer said:
I wouldn't mind seeing a little more variety in the matte paintings. How many times did they use that same "futuristic city" painting with the boxy building in the foreground with the radar dish on top of it?

Five or more times I think. I love the "Klingonified" version, though.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Krios.jpg

Yeah, I wonder what the CBSD guys would come up with to replace those.