Yes, another TOS Constitution reboot

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Hunter-G, Sep 25, 2014.

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What is your favorite Enterprise?

  1. NX-01

  2. 1701

  3. 1701-A

  4. 1701-B

  5. 1701-C

  6. 1701-D

  7. 1701-E

  8. 1701-F

  9. 1701 (Kelvin timeline)

  10. 1701 (Discovery retcon)

  11. 1701-J

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  1. PixelMagic

    PixelMagic Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I wish this was the ship in Strange New Worlds.
     
  2. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That's a lot of detail work to be sure. The one thing I don't like (mind this is in general) is the placement of lights. Not something I ever found very appealing.

    But this model is impressive in the detailing.
     
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  3. Hunter-G

    Hunter-G Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Ok, I'm wondering if any of you modelers have insight on this.

    I'm trying to unwrap the saucer rim, and I need the UV map to rectangular so I can map the panels on to it without warping. The regular unwrap is too warped, but the cylinder unwrap seems to be pretty close.

    Unfortunately the top and bottom of the rim curves and becomes flat and causes the map to be stretched. I can't even select the vertices in the UV mode to adjust them manually. I need the top and bottom faces to be continuous with the side faces as well to do the panels properly.

    Here's what I mean:
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    I'm at a complete loss of what to do. I've tried everything I can think of, messed with every unwrap setting, and Google has not been helpful at all.
     
  4. ashefivekay

    ashefivekay Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    How feasible is it to just have the rim and the top and bottom bends be separate? Not optimal but it would allow it to be a little cleaner for you
     
  5. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Curious @Hunter-G where are you marking your seams for the UV unwrap?
     
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  6. Hunter-G

    Hunter-G Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I would do that, but I want some of the paneling to curve all the way around with no seams.

    Technically the seams are the edges of the mesh, since I simply separated the mesh where I wanted the seams to go
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Commodore Commodore

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    Does the UV tool you are using have a relax option?
     
  8. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm not sure what version of Blender you're using but have you tried in UV Editing, select UV Sync Selection to see the UV and in the User Perspective select the vertexes you want to move in UV? I'm assuming you are using cylindrical projection? I asked about the seams as you could mark them rather than physically separating the mesh.
     
  9. Hunter-G

    Hunter-G Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I don't think Blender does, but I'm looking around for addons or anything similar.
    Yes, I have sync turned on, but the manual process is very tedious considering all the n-gons on the mesh. I'm just looking for a better workflow. The reason I separated the mesh is the top and bottom of the saucer are using project from view unwrap, and yes the rim is using cylinder unwrap.
     
  10. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Are you able to select by loop on the rim in the User Perspective and then in UV move the points up/down to change the stretching you are seeing from the cylindrical projection?
     
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  11. Santaman

    Santaman Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Wished I could help you with that but this is WAY beyond M$ Paint.. so.. eh.. use a bigger hammer?:biggrin:
     
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  12. scifieric

    scifieric Captain Captain

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    This is absolutely beautiful. Wonderful renders of an excellent model (and very cool design)!
     
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  13. Hunter-G

    Hunter-G Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I ended up manually adjusting the rim UVs. It didn't take as long as I thought, but it was still a pain.

    Now I just need to get out of my art block so I can finish the textures, it's the one thing holding me back from finishing this project.
     
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  14. Hunter-G

    Hunter-G Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I loved the impulse effect from the JJ movies, so I'm trying to figure it out. I think I got pretty close. The only problem is there's a little too much "flickering", while the effect in the movies is more smooth

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Professor Moriarty

    Professor Moriarty I’m BAAAA-AAAAACK! Premium Member

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    Oh I dunno—that looks awfully close to me! :bolian:
     
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  16. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Not really seeing any flickering but maybe I'm not sure what to look for. Looks good to me too :)
     
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  17. publiusr

    publiusr Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I like flickering. Seems alive…or in neutral
     
  18. Santaman

    Santaman Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Looks quite nice, I don't think the flickering is bad, hmm, maybe if you would slow it down a tad, that might give you what you want?
     
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  19. captainkirk

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    Did you get the saucer UVs sorted out? If not, my suggestion would be to use seams and regular unwrapping and then use this script to straighten the islands out when needed:
    https://github.com/Radivarig/UvSquares
     
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  20. bailey

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    I can't remember what the effect looks like in the movie (and think yours already looks great!), but perhaps a difference in the ramp up versus the ramp down could help with giving it more of a feeling of physicality. Individual elements brightening very quickly, but then taking a second or two to "cool down" like you see with rocket nozzles glowing red hot.
     
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