Spoilers Y The Last Man

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  1. The Scrooge Doctor

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    In the comic, he was desperate to find Beth...in Australia. I can't remember what brought them to Allison, but once they were with her, they headed for San Francisco for her research...and other reasons revealed later.
     
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    Yeah, I definitely need to go back and read the comics again, because I can't remember those specific details anymore, either. I mostly just remember the broad strokes of the story at this point.

    Too bad. The comic is practically ready-made for a TV adaptation and while I generally liked the show (while admitting it has a lot of flaws, which I was hoping would get fixed as the show progressed) I'm not terribly surprised it didn't make it.
     
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    It would have to be a period show to be adapted verbatim. The writers decided to keep the concept and have it deal with our current issues. It was a good effort, but not exactly perfectly pulled off.
     
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    It is sad to hear that show has been cancelled. The show was an interesting take on the apocalypse genre.

    One thing good about the show was that it allowed for various acting roles for trans actors. We have been seeing trans women on television and movies in recent years and now we got to see more trans men in acting roles in this show. It was a socially progressive show.
     
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    The Hollywood Reporter has a story on the reasons behind the cancellation. Basically due to all the production delays the casts options were up on the 15th of October and they would have to pay out millions to extend them with no decision made on whether there was even going to be another season.
     
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    I had a feeling something unusual is going on... Shows rarely get cancelled this early on paid streaming services... Though Hulu has cancelled some before.
     
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    Exactly to your point. It wasn't poor ratings what killed the show.

    Pandemic and the cost of contracts played a big role.
     
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    Well, I think the fact that this show didn't generate a Squid Game-level buzz was a factor too. I sincerely doubt they would ever have done an SNL skit on Y.
     
  9. The Scrooge Doctor

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    That's not a surprise. But I bet the reviews and ratings sure didn't help.
     
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    Meh, it's a pass for me, then. Either follow the books' story faithfully, with all its inherent strengths and weaknesses, or do something entirely different with the core concept.
     
  11. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Finally got around to watching the last two episodes.

    Episode 8 was actually pretty good and I greatly enjoyed seeing the show effectively utilize flashbacks (much like LOST at its finest) to show Roxanne's past and how much she has lied and manipulated the women under her control. I knew she was lying through her teeth about most things and figured out immediately that she was actually the shooter that scared the women in the halfway house, using their victimhood to gain control over them.

    l am glad Sam saw through the bullshit and that Roxanne's toxicity was no different from the men she decries and got the fuck out of there, thus resolving my concerns about his role in the Amazon storyline. Considering how the penultimate episode concludes, I'm not sure there's much left for Sam's story to play out. Maybe they had more planned for him in the second season but now we won't see that.

    I was surprised to see Nora not only put the pieces together, but then used that truth against Roxanne as a means to take control of the situation (instead of just merely revealing the truth to all of the women). This particular dynamic didn't exist in the comic and I was curious to see how it would play out but...

    ...then the very next episode, Roxanne has Nora effectively under thumb again and Nora is only able to wiggle out of that position because she just happened to find out that Yorick is nearby. Looks like we'll finally see Yorick, 355, and Allison meeting the Amazons in the finale, but it is curious that Hero isn't in full-blown brainwash mode at this point like she was in the comics (but perhaps that's for the best considering just how awful that whole thing was).

    Back in DC, all of the politicking is for naught because of Beth's group storming the Pentagon just as Regina was seizing power...and then was shot in the head for all of her bullshit. The American government at this point has effectively collapsed and now Jennifer is on the run with Beth, who now knows the truth. A major divergence but at this point it doesn't really matter.
     
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    These people should know better than to threaten Martha. That never goes well. :)
     
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  13. Commander Troi

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    I think episode 8 was the best one of the series (unless the finale really blows me away). Missi Pyle was AMAZING - she made Roxanne a living, breathing, *very* screwed up (and over) human woman instead of the caricature I was half-expecting. I cried when we learned her husband left her because of her cancer - I knew someone that had happened to IRL.

    Nora. Wow. Nora is not a nice or good person, and she acknowledges that. She knows she is both using and being used by Roxanne. Again, kudos to Marin Ireland for her performance.

    I *loved* Yorick trying to rationalise and mansplain the women from the prison. I have seen myself and other "liberals" do this. I'm glad I now realize how funny and condescending it is! That whole section of the episode was really well done.

    Back in DC... I kept trying to figure out what Beth's group wanted. Other than shooting Regina (which was very well done and showed she had No Clue), and Kim's mental deterioration (Amber elevates the material she's given IMO), I found the whole coup weird and confusing. I hope it makes more sense in the finale.

    I thought 355's flashbacks were great. Ashley Romans did a terrific job. I *think* we didn't get much (any?) background on 355 in the comic, so this seemed necessary, especially given that her reflection lead her to smashing the little tracking beacon.

    Here's hoping for a good finale!
     
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    We got bits and pieces of 355's background, such as the fact that her mentor was the previous 355 (which continued the tradition all the way back to the original real-life 355), but wasn't named Fran like in the show. I don't remember much beyond that other than...
    ...we never find out 355's real name but she whispers it into Yorick's ear moments before she is killed.
     
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    Oh yeah! I remember that now.
     
  16. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Most readers believe her name is Peace, based on the peace sign she's giving on the cover of her last issue and the tree carving in the final issue.
     
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  17. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Huh, I never heard that theory before.
     
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    Almost forgot about this series. It started out much like the TV show Revolution with Billy Burke (Zoo) which was a fav series of mine.

    I was hooked on it's premise and watched it until I felt the show indulged in the usual MSM political tropes that were designed to shoehorn me into a worldview of feelings, devoid of rational thought/logic etc.

    I probably still DVR this show for later? if I was back on cable...

    ...but my viewing habits are different now thanks to streaming.
     
  19. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Now that I Googled those particular pages (I don't own them, read them from the library), I think I had heard that theory after all. Does make sense.
     
  20. thribs

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    The siege/hostage scenes were hilarious. It reminded me of that Stargate episode, The Good Guys.
     
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