X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[mswood]

Didn't care for the "X-Men" choices besides Banshee.

Are you kidding? Banshee was the worst! Oh, look, I can emit a loud, super-sonic noise that allows me to fly over any surface when I wear a sky-flight suit.... somehow.

Darwin, Havoc, the wasp-lady all of them I could go along with (though we really didn't see Darwin do anything useful with his powers in the course of the movie) but fucking Banshee?!

This wasn't me talking about if I liked the character portrayed n screen, but the choice of which characters to include in the film. At least Banshee was around and using his abilities roughly at this time.

And of course I should say the Beast (but mainly was talking new characters that actually weren't original students), I of course loved seeing Hank McCoy, one of the few comic characters that I have enjoyed in both his original X-Men years, and his time as the Blue Fur Ball in the Avengers. Of course modern X-Men have really made me hate him, so yeah thanks again for ruining a great character Marvel.

 

[O'Dib]

Did anyone else get the impression that Magneto started talking in something other than an American accent the moment he put his helmet on?

I loved this film. Shades of old-school James Bond, with the globetrotting, scantly clad women, and supervillains with really hip secret bases. It ends on a bit of a dismal note, but I'm not even sure if that makes a sequel necessary. This being a prequel and not a reboot (right?), we can just assume decades of the Xavier/Magneto dance to fill out the space, with only the team rosters changing.

 

[Saquist]

And Magneto...wow....
Was this the Magneto movie I had heard of?
It certainly felt like it.

X-Men Origins: Magneto was in development hell for a little while and then cancelled when they realised it'd be stepping on the toes of X-Men: First Class. But the writer for Magneto still got a "story by" credit for First Class as compensation.

Awesome...it was a collaboration. They did well.

Fans keep saying that but obviously Fox has no wish to do that and were hooked immediately on Bryan Singer's return to the franchise. We'll see how the box office is next weekend. The fact that this film is still critically acclaimed as "X2" was is a promising start in my opinion. I'm seeing it tonight.

Despite what the box office might say this was an extremely well written movie and in my opinion it was thoroughly entertaining. I was surprised by the credits to see Bryan Singer Return to the Series and it really did feel like a Singer X-men. It had lots of flavor. There was truth in the details. He made sure to put in even the smallest mention of characters and it was beautiful how he presented the idea of the Hell Fire Club rapped up in all the real world politics....

And Magneto...wow....
Was this the Magneto movie I had heard of?
It certainly felt like it.

Certainly, they're not going to have a Magneto Origins movie. However, I still think there's potential for Magneto liberating Genosia as a sort of anti-Hero story. Having to team up with the X-Men to do it, probably.

Anyway, great movie. Loved it from beginning to end.

Well think of it this way. In the Comic Book Xavier does die and Magneto takes over the X-Men. That's a fourth movie easy one many wouldn't be familar with where Singer can romp into the creative zone with little restrictions.

Xavier & Magneto together at the start of X3

I don't thunk they're ignoring anything on this one.
We've seen Prof. X going to visit Erik in prison after trying to murder one of his students.(Rogue)
We saw them continue to be friends after Erik tried to booby trap Cerebro.
So it shouldn't be of much surprise that they would join forces again in the future.
They still could have recruited Jean & rebuilt Cerebro.

Xavier walking in said X3 scene and in XO:W

Astral projection?

More like someone elses version of events.
Remember those dudes from X3 weren't really following Singer's idea. From what I heard Singer wasn't going to start straight into the dark phoenix which is why X2 ends with Xavier's smile not a frown. They took notes of his ideas but they really created their own story which is why Rogue dropped off the face of the film.

Singer was smart to focus on Rogue and Wolverine from go. Too many characters to give everyone their just due.

(Might I add that Beast actually looked pretty good in this movie as opposed to fraisers comical look in X3.0

P.S They really need to redo X3 Singer style

 

[od0_ital]

I preferred the X3 Beast over this one. At least it seemed like Kelsey Grammer was able to talk in his make-up!

 

[Pauln6]

I liked X3 Beast too - he was probably the best thing in the movie, although I also liked the general group dynamic in the final fight too. X3 would have been far better if they had eased gently into the Dark Phoenix story and made the B plot her seduction by the Hellfire club instead of just letting her gurn her way through the movie. A real waste of Famke - she hardly wore any black leather in the entire movie.

 

[Saquist]

I don't know...
This
http://filmonic.com/new-x-men-first-class-clip

or that.

http://www.celebs.com/archives/kelsey-grammer-new-girlfriend-pregnant.html/beast

The brow on new Beast is much better and he has a muzzle and has much deadlier looking fangs. And it's nicely blended

 

[Trekker4747]

I don't know...
This
http://filmonic.com/new-x-men-first-class-clip

or that.

http://www.celebs.com/archives/kelsey-grammer-new-girlfriend-pregnant.html/beast

The brow on new Beast is much better and he has a muzzle and has much deadlier looking fangs. And it's nicely blended

To be fair, there's 40 years of aging between those two versions of the character.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I thought Beast looked a little comical in this movie, like if this weren't X-Men and if he wasn't an iconic character, the audience would be laughing at his made-up appearance and silly blue fur. I thought Kelsey Grammer pulled it off better.

 

[exodus]

I don't know...
This
http://filmonic.com/new-x-men-first-class-clip

or that.

http://www.celebs.com/archives/kelsey-grammer-new-girlfriend-pregnant.html/beast

The brow on new Beast is much better and he has a muzzle and has much deadlier looking fangs. And it's nicely blended

I'm still going to stick with X3's Beast.
In "First Class" he looks like a plush toy you win at a cheap local carnival.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ That's a good way to put it.

 

[exodus]

^ That's a good way to put it.

He did.
His hair looked fake felt hair you glue to a Muppet.
Not to mention it was way too bright blue, so it added to how fake it looked.

 

[Pauln6]

I don't like the way Mystique's make-up seems to have got lighter as time has gone on. The darker blue looked much better.

 

[exodus]

I don't like the way Mystique's make-up seems to have got lighter as time has gone on. The darker blue looked much better.

I never noticed.

I thought Banshee was a great choice, and he's one of the more well-known X-Men characters as well, which made his presence a lot easier to swallow.

I agree.
The only issue I had with the Banshee was the actor that played him, he was very mush mouthed when he spoke. Did anyone else have trouble understanding him?

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Thought he sounded fine, but consider the alternative, a really thick Irish accent. Though it would have been truer to the comics.

 

[RoJoHen]

I don't like the way Mystique's make-up seems to have got lighter as time has gone on. The darker blue looked much better.

I've honestly not been a fan of Mystique's design at all in any of the movies. She looks too much like a lizard.

 

[exodus]

I don't like the way Mystique's make-up seems to have got lighter as time has gone on. The darker blue looked much better.

I've honestly not been a fan of Mystique's design at all in any of the movies. She looks too much like a lizard.

Octopus.
She's supposed to resemble an Octopus.

 

[Jetfire]

She hocks fireballs like loogies. Angel is her real name too right? Angel Salvator?

Yeah it is.

And this is actually what she looks like so Dragonfly would have been much more acceptable

Maybe Damselfly.

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, she doesn't.

 

[davejames]

Speaking of Mystique, and not to sound like a pig or anything... but was anybody else a bit distracted by how much... thicker and curvier this version was compared to the previous one we've seen?

Obviously Lawrence is still sexy as hell, and she played the part beautifully, but it did seem a bit odd that they chose someone with such a completely different body type from before.

Of course, McAvoy didn't sound or look remotely like Stewart either, so I guess it's one of those things you just have to roll with.

 

[RoJoHen]

Speaking of Mystique, and not to sound like a pig or anything... but was anybody else a bit distracted by how much... thicker and curvier this version was compared to the previous one we've seen?

Obviously Lawrence is still sexy as hell, and she played the part beautifully, but it did seem a bit odd that they chose someone with such a completely different body type from before.

Well, that's the beauty of Mystique. She can look however the hell she wants.