X-MEN: FIRST CLASS (Casting, Rumors, Pics till release)

[Nerys Myk]

I've always thought "Rogue" was a pretty lame codename. It says nothing about her powers or even how she looks. Rogue actually works better for Nightcrawler or Wolverine.

Never heard the "To be alone" definition before. Which sorta describes the isolation inherint in her mutation, but she's rarely alone. Seems there was often someone around ( be it Mystique or the X-Men)

 

[exodus]

I've always thought "Rogue" was a pretty lame codename. It says nothing about her powers or even how she looks. Rogue actually works better for Nightcrawler or Wolverine.

Never heard the "To be alone" definition before. Which sorta describes the isolation inherint in her mutation, but she's rarely alone. Seems there was often someone around ( be it Mystique or the X-Men)

True, but she's surrounded by people she can never touch or ever know physical intimacy. So she is equivalent of someone suffering depression, to be surrounded by all you love yet be alone in your own skin. The simplest and most desired thing is touch, it's the first one we make from child to mother after birth.(On Voyager, it's why Janeway is always touching her senior officers on the shoulder. She's showing affection & bonding. It's how men know a woman likes them too) For Rogue, that's a high she's chasing but can never have. That's what makes her Rogue.

In the military, when someone goes rogue it means they gone off on their own. They're acting alone.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

You share a name with a certain mutant villain. How would you describe his name to his powers/character?

 

[exodus]

You share a name with a certain mutant villain. How would you describe his name to his powers/character?

Give an example?

We've already had:
Thunderbird 1- Powers: Strenght & Speed

Thunderbird 2- Powers: Plasma based.

Not sure how either code name describes their powers.
Not all codenames do, like Gambit or Bishop
It describes their personalities rather than abilities.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Well I was talking about the character Exodus specifically, I know it doesn't always relate to their powers, which is why I attached character with powers. /character

But why would you think Scott lobdell and Joe Quesada chose that name for him. I think it was Apocalypse that gave him that name in the comics. To match the whole end of the world theme he had going on? Because it sounded cool? Something like that?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've always thought "Rogue" was a pretty lame codename. It says nothing about her powers or even how she looks. Rogue actually works better for Nightcrawler or Wolverine.

Never heard the "To be alone" definition before. Which sorta describes the isolation inherint in her mutation, but she's rarely alone. Seems there was often someone around ( be it Mystique or the X-Men)

True, but she's surrounded by people she can never touch or ever know physical intimacy. So she is equivalent of someone suffering depression, to be surrounded by all you love yet be alone in your own skin. The simplest and most desired thing is touch, it's the first one we make from child to mother after birth.(On Voyager, it's why Janeway is always touching her senior officers on the shoulder. She's showing affection & bonding. It's how men know a woman likes them too) For Rogue, that's a high she's chasing but can never have. That's what makes her Rogue.

In the military, when someone goes rogue it means they gone off on their own. They're acting alone.

More like they're acting without orders or sanction. They've gone "wild". A mission calling for a single operative is not going rogue.

 

[captcalhoun]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/167217-mystique-character-trailer-for-x-men-first-class

mystique's turn

 

[exodus]

Well I was talking about the character Exodus specifically, I know it doesn't always relate to their powers, which is why I attached character with powers. /character

But why would you think Scott lobdell and Joe Quesada chose that name for him. I think it was Apocalypse that gave him that name in the comics. To match the whole end of the world theme he had going on? Because it sounded cool? Something like that?

I figured because at the time he was recruting mutant to be Acolytes and to Astroid M, as a santuary. So it was an exodus he was performing. He was relocating people from one place to another.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You share a name with a certain mutant villain. How would you describe his name to his powers/character?

Give an example?

We've already had:
Thunderbird 1- Powers: Strenght & Speed

Thunderbird 2- Powers: Plasma based.

Not sure how either code name describes their powers.
Not all codenames do, like Gambit or Bishop
It describes their personalities rather than abilities.

Which is why Thunderbird, Gambit and Bishop are horrible codenames. Its like calling Scott Summers "Brood" or Hank McCoy "Verbose"

 

[exodus]

I've always thought "Rogue" was a pretty lame codename. It says nothing about her powers or even how she looks. Rogue actually works better for Nightcrawler or Wolverine.

Never heard the "To be alone" definition before. Which sorta describes the isolation inherint in her mutation, but she's rarely alone. Seems there was often someone around ( be it Mystique or the X-Men)

True, but she's surrounded by people she can never touch or ever know physical intimacy. So she is equivalent of someone suffering depression, to be surrounded by all you love yet be alone in your own skin. The simplest and most desired thing is touch, it's the first one we make from child to mother after birth.(On Voyager, it's why Janeway is always touching her senior officers on the shoulder. She's showing affection & bonding. It's how men know a woman likes them too) For Rogue, that's a high she's chasing but can never have. That's what makes her Rogue.

In the military, when someone goes rogue it means they gone off on their own. They're acting alone.

More like they're acting without orders or sanction. They've gone "wild". A mission calling for a single operative is not going rogue.

No, no, no.
It not a mission they're assigned but rather going off on their own accord. That's defined as going rogue.....or at least in the movies it is.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Hmm yeah makes sense

 

[exodus]

You share a name with a certain mutant villain. How would you describe his name to his powers/character?

Give an example?

We've already had:
Thunderbird 1- Powers: Strenght & Speed

Thunderbird 2- Powers: Plasma based.

Not sure how either code name describes their powers.
Not all codenames do, like Gambit or Bishop
It describes their personalities rather than abilities.

Which is why Thunderbird, Gambit and Bishop are horrible codenames. Its like calling Scott Summers "Brood" or Hank McCoy "Verbose"

I think they're fine.
Gambit is a con-artist.
Bishop is the last line of defence.

 

[captcalhoun]

bishop's actually his NAME. it's Lucas Bishop. no different to Alpine in GI Joe being Albert Pine.

 

[Nerys Myk]

True, but she's surrounded by people she can never touch or ever know physical intimacy. So she is equivalent of someone suffering depression, to be surrounded by all you love yet be alone in your own skin. The simplest and most desired thing is touch, it's the first one we make from child to mother after birth.(On Voyager, it's why Janeway is always touching her senior officers on the shoulder. She's showing affection & bonding. It's how men know a woman likes them too) For Rogue, that's a high she's chasing but can never have. That's what makes her Rogue.

In the military, when someone goes rogue it means they gone off on their own. They're acting alone.

More like they're acting without orders or sanction. They've gone "wild". A mission calling for a single operative is not going rogue.

No, no, no.
It not a mission they're assigned but rather going off on their own accord. That's defined as going rogue.....or at least in the movies it is.

Yeah, thats what I said. Entire units can go rogue so its not exclusive to an individual.

But it doesn't really fit ol Skunk stripe does it? She tends to be used by people rather than striking out on her own .

 

[exodus]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/167217-mystique-character-trailer-for-x-men-first-class

mystique's turn

Very cool!

 

[exodus]

More like they're acting without orders or sanction. They've gone "wild". A mission calling for a single operative is not going rogue.

No, no, no.
It not a mission they're assigned but rather going off on their own accord. That's defined as going rogue.....or at least in the movies it is.

Yeah, thats what I said. Entire units can go rogue so its not exclusive to an individual.

But it doesn't really fit ol Skunk stripe does it? She tends to be used by people rather than striking out on her own .

Like I said, it describes state of mind or personality.
I was using the military example to show that the word is also associated with being alone.

 

[exodus]

bishop's actually his NAME. it's Lucas Bishop. no different to Alpine in GI Joe being Albert Pine.

Yes it is NOW(That wasn't the idea originally) but on a chess board, a Bishop's job is to protect the King if the Knight falls.

Now think of what Bishop's original mission is and you'll see the association. Xavier is the King, the X-Men are Knights.
He was the last line of defence to protect Charles from the X-traitor.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Give an example?

We've already had:
Thunderbird 1- Powers: Strenght & Speed

Thunderbird 2- Powers: Plasma based.

Not sure how either code name describes their powers.
Not all codenames do, like Gambit or Bishop
It describes their personalities rather than abilities.

Which is why Thunderbird, Gambit and Bishop are horrible codenames. Its like calling Scott Summers "Brood" or Hank McCoy "Verbose"

I think they're fine.
Gambit is a con-artist.
Bishop is the last line of defence.

There still lame because they say nothing about the powers or abilities of the characters.

gam·bit   /ˈgæmbɪt/ Show Spelled
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–noun
1. Chess . an opening in which a player seeks to obtain some advantage by sacrificing a pawn or piece.
2. any maneuver by which one seeks to gain an advantage.
3. a remark made to open or redirect a conversation.

The dude charges objects with energy and throws them.

bishop
Chess . one of two pieces of the same color that may be moved any unobstructed distance diagonally, one on white squares and the other on black.

Great name for a teleporter, not so much for a guy who can absorb and redirect energy.

bishop's actually his NAME. it's Lucas Bishop. no different to Alpine in GI Joe being Albert Pine.

Not a fan of superheroes using their real names.

That pretty lame too, no doubt he's a mountaineer.

 

[captcalhoun]

well, that's Larry Hama for you. a lot of the Joes real names are gags. like Shana 'Scarlett' O'Hara, or Skip A Stone, aka Cutter, the WHALE hovercraft pilot...

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think they're fine.
Gambit is a con-artist.
Bishop is the last line of defence.

There still lame because they say nothing about the powers or abilities of the characters.

So what, neither did Marvel Girl.

Yep, not a very good name for telekinetic. But at least TK looks like a marvel so its better than Gambit or Bishop for an energy based hero.