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X-MEN: Days Of Future Past (Casting, Rumors, Pics till release)

One thing I never quite understood was why X-Men: The Last Stand was so short. I mean, it's only a little over 100 minutes long, barely longer than the 1st one. Perhaps the movie wouldn't have felt quite so crowded if it had been at least as long as X2.


FOX mostly. They wanted a movie that was on time and on budget. They got Ratner

The fantastic four movies, Wolverine:origin and x-men the last stand.
 
Yep. They also didn't want to wait too long after Vaughn left, so as Sammy stated they got Ratner. "X-Men: The Last Stand" was fast tracked from the start. Fox was not going to wait on too long a delay. Perhaps if they did...it would have been more beneficial for the film, but then again maybe not.
 
I would have preferred to have seen Benioff's first draft which was IMO a much better script than the later drafts, and the film we originally got. Maybe a "disaster" is slight hyperbole on my part...but I didn't really like the film at all. They tried to shoehorn too much stuff into the film (such as all the cameos), that took away from Logan's story.

I will say that Henry-Gregson Williams score was probably the best thing about the film...and the five minutes or so of Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool proper that we got. The leaked "Deadpool" script makes fun of this version and addressed it "Fourth wall" style.
 
But what I'm wondering is, how do you folks think it stacks up next to X-Men Origins: Wolverine?
Ugh. For my money, the turgid X3 is better than XMO:Wolverine. I can at least enjoy some of X3's consistuent parts, whereas Wolverine is an average movie at best up until the Weapon X procedure, and is a complete lobotomy of a film afterwards.

Really though, it's like deciding between vomit and shit. ;)
 
I have a small confession-- I've never actually seen X3: The Last Stand.

The spoilers and rumors that I heard gave me serious reservations about the movie to start with, so I decided to wait for some genuine word of mouth. The word of mouth, of course, was awful.

They took The Dark Phoenix Saga and Gifted and combined them into one movie, and somehow they ended up with even less of a story.
 
So is it better to squander enormous potential or succeed at lower expectations? I used to prefer The Last Stand, but I've found myself leaning more towards Wolverine in the last couple years.
Choosing between X3 and XMO:W is like waging global thermonuclear war... the only winning move is not to play. :p

Taken strictly on their own terms, I think X3's almost inarguably the better film, if only for the presence of Stewart and McKellan, but it's such a mess of squandered opportunity I really have no desire to ever watch it again. Nor do I XMO:W, but at least there, the first half is hilariously bad and the second half kinda stumbles its way to a moving conclusion. What can I say, I'm a sucker for the "avenging fallen angel frees the enslaved children" beat.

So, if Rose Bryne were to demand I join her in a hot tub and watch one of those two entries only, I'd pick XMO:W. :techman:
 
I have to go with The Last Stand. I've only seen XMO: Wolverine once, and I remember thinking that it was OK, but I actually like TLS.
 
Let's see...about the only things that I like about "X-Men: The Last Stand" are John Powell's excellent score, Ellen Page as Kitty Pryde, Kelsey Grammer as Hank McCoy (thank you Matthew Vaughn)...I think that's about it.
 
The Hobbit: There and Back has been pushed back to December 17th, 2014 which means X-men: DOFP won't have to compete with it on opening day!
 
Good. Whatever the reasoning for the pushback, I didn't like having it in the summer after all other Middle Earth films were released in December anyway.
 
If they're referencing The Last Stand that would make a certain amount of sense, since in that film she seemed to be set up as Xavier's successor.
 
Both Storm and Logan were basically left as Headmistress and Co-Headmaster at the end of "X-Men: The Last Stand", or at least this is implied.

Storm is also alive in one of the mutant internment camps in the future.
 
Of course, the whole set-up of leaving Ororo and Logan in charge of the school was rendered moot with the post-credit scene.
 
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