Too bad Mike Awesome died, he's the only guy who should be wearing that Miz shirt.
wwe vs tnt anyone watching?
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I'm surprised no one brought this up...
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_53308.shtml
I'm guessing Hogan Vs Sting is going to be his last match...if it even happens. Unless this was a work and he is still in talks. I kind of hope he goes.
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_53308.shtml
I'm guessing Hogan Vs Sting is going to be his last match...if it even happens. Unless this was a work and he is still in talks. I kind of hope he goes.
^ This is why I was shocked and revolted that they were even contemplating this in the first place. Maybe Hogan realized that he just couldn't do it any more and thus why they switched it to Sting Vs Flair...and Flair is reportedly injured now too. LOL.
I can't decide if Hogan's "big announcement" is good news or bad news.
On one hand if he were to stick with iMPACT, I could safely ignore him. I can't do that if he retires and starts making sure he's getting press.
On one hand if he were to stick with iMPACT, I could safely ignore him. I can't do that if he retires and starts making sure he's getting press.
all three just really need to retire or go into management type of the buisness and stay away from the wrestling part. sting probably has a few good years left,
so no more tna for a while to much good tv on:
the vampire diaries
secert circle
the big bang theory
way more better than Impact wresting unless someone knows where I can watch it on line?
so no more tna for a while to much good tv on:
the vampire diaries
secert circle
the big bang theory
way more better than Impact wresting unless someone knows where I can watch it on line?
^ I find some of your television tastes questionable. But, you already knew that. /Alberto Del Rio.
^ Stop bringing the wrestling thread off topic please. Those shows already all have threads to discuss them in or will and aren't relevant to what we're discussing. No one else in this thread says what they're watching instead of WWE or TNA...we just watch it. You just bog down the thread by bringing up other stuff.
Sting should have signed in WWE. Even a one year deal would have been an incredible way for him to go out and he would have been able to go up against a true ICON in the Undertaker. He got scared and went where he was comfortable. The thing is if he had also signed with WWE one could assume he would probably work less as Vince would most likely book him against marquee opponents. Like I've suggested a program against Punk after UT seems logical. Imagine the Punk angle going down with Sting involved?
Sting should have signed in WWE. Even a one year deal would have been an incredible way for him to go out and he would have been able to go up against a true ICON in the Undertaker. He got scared and went where he was comfortable. The thing is if he had also signed with WWE one could assume he would probably work less as Vince would most likely book him against marquee opponents. Like I've suggested a program against Punk after UT seems logical. Imagine the Punk angle going down with Sting involved?
If I had the power to make decisions in WWE and was tasked with bringing in Sting, I'd do it in the following ways...
Rather than pitching money towards Sting, I'd wait for the opportunity to insert him into a storyline along the lines of what he is used to as a character. I'd explain to him that while he will be given a main event push from the outset, that he will be expected to put others over (mainly the up and coming talent). In order to solve his reluctance to this I'd explain that such losses would be at PPV events and would be in competitive contests that would highlight both participants strengths.
If he agreed to that I'd then offer him a 1 year performers contract with a 3 year Legends Contract (to keep Vince happy and make the most out of merchandise sales). I'd offer him the very same light schedule that Ric Flair recieved during his 2001-2008 run with the company (a maximum of 15 dates per month). The money part wouldn't be a big thing (since Sting is pretty well off already), therefore I'd offer him a standard $850k downside (which is near enough to what he recieves in TNA), 30% merchandise royalties and the usual PPV bonuses and other perks that WWE talent recieve.
Once this was sorted out, I'd put him into a program with the "new" NWO (if that comes into fruition). Sting would come in to assist Cena and Punk during a beatdown and together they would clear the ring. This would result in a 3 on 3 tag match (Cena, Punk and Sting vs Triple H, Alberto Del Rio and Kevin Nash) with Sting getting the win.
The reality of the situation is that WWE could only get a couple of matches out of Sting and they would only be prepared to sign him to a legends deal. This way they get a couple of big pay offs from the matches the freedom to create Sting merchandise. It's all about the money.
Rather than pitching money towards Sting, I'd wait for the opportunity to insert him into a storyline along the lines of what he is used to as a character. I'd explain to him that while he will be given a main event push from the outset, that he will be expected to put others over (mainly the up and coming talent). In order to solve his reluctance to this I'd explain that such losses would be at PPV events and would be in competitive contests that would highlight both participants strengths.
If he agreed to that I'd then offer him a 1 year performers contract with a 3 year Legends Contract (to keep Vince happy and make the most out of merchandise sales). I'd offer him the very same light schedule that Ric Flair recieved during his 2001-2008 run with the company (a maximum of 15 dates per month). The money part wouldn't be a big thing (since Sting is pretty well off already), therefore I'd offer him a standard $850k downside (which is near enough to what he recieves in TNA), 30% merchandise royalties and the usual PPV bonuses and other perks that WWE talent recieve.
Once this was sorted out, I'd put him into a program with the "new" NWO (if that comes into fruition). Sting would come in to assist Cena and Punk during a beatdown and together they would clear the ring. This would result in a 3 on 3 tag match (Cena, Punk and Sting vs Triple H, Alberto Del Rio and Kevin Nash) with Sting getting the win.
The reality of the situation is that WWE could only get a couple of matches out of Sting and they would only be prepared to sign him to a legends deal. This way they get a couple of big pay offs from the matches the freedom to create Sting merchandise. It's all about the money.
^ I would offer him the same deal as you plus toss in creative control over his character if Borden wants that. I'd basically say Steve...you will work all the major PPV's and appear on Raw to work the odd match and cut promos as we work to develop your program.
As for programs I already proposed what I'd do with him a number of pages ago.
As for programs I already proposed what I'd do with him a number of pages ago.
NEVER give your talent creative control. If a talent can veto something they don't like the sound of, it could ruin an entire storyline.
Here's an example, During the Nexus storyline lets assume that John Cena have creative control and wasn't comfortable with being force to join the Nexus so he veto'd this decision and went over Wade Barrett. From there on out, the Nexus storyline would have dissolved and there would be no stipulations attached to Barrett's match with Orton (where Cena was the special ref). Or, how about if Cena wasn't comfortable with losing to CM Punk at MITB 2011 and decided that the match would end in a double DQ or countout? The fans would riot and Punk would not have gained the momentum that he did in the ensuing weeks.
Creative control was the reason that WCW was declining prior to the NWO angle. Hogan had that creative control and would regulary refuse to participate in storylines that he was uncomfortable with, or lose to anyone he didn't feel could "stand in his shoes". It took Eric Bischoff appealing to him as a friend and businessman to get Hogan to turn heel at BATB 96. Hogan only lost to Ric Flair prior to the NWO angle, despite being with WCW for nearly 2 years.
Here's an example, During the Nexus storyline lets assume that John Cena have creative control and wasn't comfortable with being force to join the Nexus so he veto'd this decision and went over Wade Barrett. From there on out, the Nexus storyline would have dissolved and there would be no stipulations attached to Barrett's match with Orton (where Cena was the special ref). Or, how about if Cena wasn't comfortable with losing to CM Punk at MITB 2011 and decided that the match would end in a double DQ or countout? The fans would riot and Punk would not have gained the momentum that he did in the ensuing weeks.
Creative control was the reason that WCW was declining prior to the NWO angle. Hogan had that creative control and would regulary refuse to participate in storylines that he was uncomfortable with, or lose to anyone he didn't feel could "stand in his shoes". It took Eric Bischoff appealing to him as a friend and businessman to get Hogan to turn heel at BATB 96. Hogan only lost to Ric Flair prior to the NWO angle, despite being with WCW for nearly 2 years.
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Creative Control of course was Bret's thing in the Screw Job incident...but the reason I suggested it is to put Borden's mind at rest. That really seems like what his hesitancy has been, creative control over his character's image and Vince possibly ruining it which is silly...Borden is the ICON. Fans know though and would immediately see through any bull shit right away. Most of us are smart 
^ Umm...what's the big deal about that? They freaking booked their main event ONE YEAR in advance, and you're complaining about a 200 day countdown? Seriously? Really?
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Yeah, well, that match is kind of a big deal in terms of scope. I'm not too terribly surprised that there's a countdown.
well if there going to do a raw and smackdown super show. do we still need the wwe and world heavy weight championship? should'nt they be unified into on ultimate title of some kind. and then all we would be dealing with is the following:
- unified tag titles
- united states title
- intercontinel title
- diva's champion ship
- and a later to be name champion ship title
Why not unify the US title with the Intercontinental title as well?
Couple of bits of news.
Claudio Castagnoli signs with WWE
The Rock will team with John Cena at Survivor Series
I was expecting something along the lines of The Rock wrestling prior to Wrestlemania. I guess it makes sense to have Cena and Rock on the same team to generate PPV buys. Hopefully it will be done in a way to further their fued and not just as a money making one off.
Claudio Castagnoli is one of the best talents WWE could have acquired. Although his new name (Antonio Cesaro) is typically FCW lame, here is hoping that WWE do something with him. I had a sudden brainstorm based on WWE looking to renovate their tag team division. Why not have the next (lol) NXT (when this one finally finishes!) season about tag teams? There's been talk of Chris Hero joining Castagnoli in the WWE and if they keep them teaming they have them for the next series along with Richie Steamboat and Seth Rollins, Calvin Raines and Big E Langston, CJ Parker and Donnie Marlow and whoever else.
Claudio Castagnoli signs with WWE
The Rock will team with John Cena at Survivor Series
I was expecting something along the lines of The Rock wrestling prior to Wrestlemania. I guess it makes sense to have Cena and Rock on the same team to generate PPV buys. Hopefully it will be done in a way to further their fued and not just as a money making one off.
Claudio Castagnoli is one of the best talents WWE could have acquired. Although his new name (Antonio Cesaro) is typically FCW lame, here is hoping that WWE do something with him. I had a sudden brainstorm based on WWE looking to renovate their tag team division. Why not have the next (lol) NXT (when this one finally finishes!) season about tag teams? There's been talk of Chris Hero joining Castagnoli in the WWE and if they keep them teaming they have them for the next series along with Richie Steamboat and Seth Rollins, Calvin Raines and Big E Langston, CJ Parker and Donnie Marlow and whoever else.