wwe vs tnt anyone watching?
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Once again timothy you're jumping the gun. It's Sat tonight. The PPV is tomorrow, and as much as I'd like Christian to recapture the WWE Championship, I believe that Orton will retain it. That's pretty much the only match I care about. I think Del Rio will be Big Show, and Rey will beat CM Punk. Cena will retain his title against psycho heel R-Truth, The Miz will beat Alex Riley. Don't care about the other two matches.
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I highly doubt Cena will lose the title to R-Truth, however this could be WWE's method of thinking. They assume that the majority will think that Cena will retain and therefore pull of a swerve. A B-level PPV prior to a big 4 is usually the ideal time for WWE to experiment with a "new" champion, if R-Truth does win the title, Cena will definitely regain it by Summerslam.
Randy Orton vs Christian is a different kettle of fish, it could really go either way on paper, but I'm thinking Orton will retain and continue the feud. WWE needs to be careful though, when Orton appeared on RAW last week, there were noticeable boos from the crowd, unless they want a double turn on their hands, then they need to play it sensibly (that means not having Orton cleanly win every encounter).
Don't really care much for the other matches. Miz vs Alex Riley, while pretty hyped, is not really something to build a feud on in this day and age. I expect Miz will go over via some dirty tactics. There will probably be a dirty finish to the Big Show vs Alberto Del Rio match, if Alberto wins, it could be due to DQ via interference from Kane. I'm pretty bored of Kofi Kingston trading the secondary singles belts. It seems to me that Kofi is the transition champion, whenever they need to move a belt to the other brand. Dolph Ziggler isn't much better, he lost the IC title in a prelude to going on to become a World Title challenger. This resulted in nothing but a tainted couple of minutes World Title reign, before losing it back to Edge. Ezekiel over Wade Barrett for the IC title and the end of the feud, which has run its course.
Randy Orton vs Christian is a different kettle of fish, it could really go either way on paper, but I'm thinking Orton will retain and continue the feud. WWE needs to be careful though, when Orton appeared on RAW last week, there were noticeable boos from the crowd, unless they want a double turn on their hands, then they need to play it sensibly (that means not having Orton cleanly win every encounter).
Don't really care much for the other matches. Miz vs Alex Riley, while pretty hyped, is not really something to build a feud on in this day and age. I expect Miz will go over via some dirty tactics. There will probably be a dirty finish to the Big Show vs Alberto Del Rio match, if Alberto wins, it could be due to DQ via interference from Kane. I'm pretty bored of Kofi Kingston trading the secondary singles belts. It seems to me that Kofi is the transition champion, whenever they need to move a belt to the other brand. Dolph Ziggler isn't much better, he lost the IC title in a prelude to going on to become a World Title challenger. This resulted in nothing but a tainted couple of minutes World Title reign, before losing it back to Edge. Ezekiel over Wade Barrett for the IC title and the end of the feud, which has run its course.
I think it would be great if Cena lost the belt and didnt get it back until right before Mania. The Rock could make several via satalite appearences and keep laughing at him for losing until Mania. They could even spin the R-Truth conspiracy over to Cena and then reveal the Rock was behind him losing every time. This would add something to the match at mania other than the "I respect you but dont like you" angle we have now.
It does seem to be a short booked match but that might be done on purpose.
capitol punishment is now on and it's going fantastic. don't forget 3 hour raw tomarrow people's choice. so I am thinking no titles will change hands tonight except maybe smackdown chirtian vs orton.
and the miz loses yet agin. for a must see superstar I wonder what they are planing for him. two ppv loss's can't be good.
and the miz loses yet agin. for a must see superstar I wonder what they are planing for him. two ppv loss's can't be good.
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They are most likely building Miz a program for Slummer Slam.
over all not a bad ppv. though randy orton got seriously hurt and may have to relinquish his title any ways. who knows, till friday. I thought the ezzical jackson and wade barret match was great. as well as the john cena vs r truth. I like the out come of all the matches over all. looking forward to tonight. 3 hours.
Well I definitely felt that Capitol Punishment was an impovement in terms of "wrestling" in the first two hours, then it came to Wade Barrett and Ezekiel Jackson. The audience was absolutely dead, apart from a few chants of "we want Ryder", neither Zeke nor Barrett drew any kind of reaction.
I intensely disliked the piss poor Obama impersonator and felt like this was a complete waste of time. It served no purpose, rather than undermining the US President in the capital state.
What I did notice was the similarities to UFC on display last night. First of all, Dolph wins by referee stoppage, then Del Rio wins by TKO (Big Show couldn't defend himself, therefore TKO) and finally Jerry Lawler does a Mike Goldberg style post-fight interview with Ezekiel Jackson. If Vince hates MMA, then he's obviously got no issues with imitating it.
Randy Orton vs Christian was a good match, but it was too short and had a screwy, yet decisive ending to it. I would look for the this feud to continue, perhaps with the addition of a third man, maybe Sheamus? I never expected Alex Riley to win, normally the hometown guy does the job (its something of a running gag) and CM Punk and Rey had a great quality match with an inventive finish.
Jack Swagger and Evan Bourne drew silence in their 10 minute scrap, which consisted of Swagger pummeling Bourne until he got caught in a flash pin for the 3. The main event was a typical Cena match, but its clear that R-Truth has not only improved as a talker but as a performer as well. Cena was obviously going to get the win, but I wouldn't say this feud is over yet either.
Not a bad PPV, but still very flawed. Elimination Chamber still sets the benchmark for quality so far.
I intensely disliked the piss poor Obama impersonator and felt like this was a complete waste of time. It served no purpose, rather than undermining the US President in the capital state.
What I did notice was the similarities to UFC on display last night. First of all, Dolph wins by referee stoppage, then Del Rio wins by TKO (Big Show couldn't defend himself, therefore TKO) and finally Jerry Lawler does a Mike Goldberg style post-fight interview with Ezekiel Jackson. If Vince hates MMA, then he's obviously got no issues with imitating it.
Randy Orton vs Christian was a good match, but it was too short and had a screwy, yet decisive ending to it. I would look for the this feud to continue, perhaps with the addition of a third man, maybe Sheamus? I never expected Alex Riley to win, normally the hometown guy does the job (its something of a running gag) and CM Punk and Rey had a great quality match with an inventive finish.
Jack Swagger and Evan Bourne drew silence in their 10 minute scrap, which consisted of Swagger pummeling Bourne until he got caught in a flash pin for the 3. The main event was a typical Cena match, but its clear that R-Truth has not only improved as a talker but as a performer as well. Cena was obviously going to get the win, but I wouldn't say this feud is over yet either.
Not a bad PPV, but still very flawed. Elimination Chamber still sets the benchmark for quality so far.
what a way to start raw. cm punk aregues with gm making a triple threat for the #1 contedership for the wwe champion ship and the next ppv money in the bank.
two other great momments one was the tripple heel verbage by r truth,christian and the miz.
and the next where the miz is elliminated yet agin from a match. that makes what four losses in a row. Now we know the next ppv money in the bank so we probably will have a match for a new #1 contender match on smackdown. either a triple like raw or a fatal four way knowing christian he will be involved. and, then with raw roulette I am sure we will have matches for mib and who knows what else it looks fun. and I am so surprised they kept this one of eric bishoffs ideas like the elimination chamber matchs.
two other great momments one was the tripple heel verbage by r truth,christian and the miz.
and the next where the miz is elliminated yet agin from a match. that makes what four losses in a row. Now we know the next ppv money in the bank so we probably will have a match for a new #1 contender match on smackdown. either a triple like raw or a fatal four way knowing christian he will be involved. and, then with raw roulette I am sure we will have matches for mib and who knows what else it looks fun. and I am so surprised they kept this one of eric bishoffs ideas like the elimination chamber matchs.
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CM Punk is gold. I loved his line about beating Cena and leaving the company...with the belt lol.
No. It was just a line in a promo timothy most likely referencing Alundra Blaze when she took the WWE Women's Title over to WCW and tossed it in a trash can.
Shawn Michaels is confirmed for next week's Raw.
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_50922.shtml
Shawn Michaels is confirmed for next week's Raw.
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_50922.shtml
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Yeah I remember that, for the time it was a big deal and severely pissed of Vince. IIRC, Alundra/Medusa was never employed by the WWE again (and her contract was not picked up when WWE bought WCW).
Its interesting, I can't really tell if this is a work or a shoot or a bit of both. We know Punk has been talking about leaving, but despite this, its possible he's signed a new contract and they've turned it into a storyline. Granted, I'm sure Punk would have bargained for some time off and he may get it (perhaps an injury angle at the conclusion of this storyline?).
What I'd love to see is Punk winning the WWE title and then turning up in a promotion (ROH) which WWE has a resonably good relationship with. Whilst still under contract to WWE, Punk could go around having matches in indie promotions with the WWE title on the line, until Cena or whoever is the next challenger disguises themselves as an indie wrestler and beats Punk for the title. But we know WWE will never do this
For a man who has retired, in part to spend more time with his family, he sure keeps himself busy. Especially with all these "special" appearances for the WWE
^ It's his first time on live television since last year's WM. The segments he has done have been pre-taped. Like the commentary on the UT/HHH match. He's been spending tons of time with his family. I have him on twitter. His family is with him pretty much the entire time and I'd not be surprised if they were with him in Vegas.
As for the Punk stuff. I'm sure it's just a work as part of his current character and program. Behind the scenes Punk is well known it seems for having tons of respect for the industry. Deal or no deal he wouldn't do that to the WWE. Pretty sure he's still not signed and that he doesn't know what he will do. Unless the off chance he's already been promised a bunch of stuff by WWE and will be taken off TV for a while as part of a future program/feud/gimmick. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'd love to see a Punk/Miz feud but since they're both heels right now that'd be hard to do.
As for the Punk stuff. I'm sure it's just a work as part of his current character and program. Behind the scenes Punk is well known it seems for having tons of respect for the industry. Deal or no deal he wouldn't do that to the WWE. Pretty sure he's still not signed and that he doesn't know what he will do. Unless the off chance he's already been promised a bunch of stuff by WWE and will be taken off TV for a while as part of a future program/feud/gimmick. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'd love to see a Punk/Miz feud but since they're both heels right now that'd be hard to do.
He appeared on Raw prior to the Undertaker/Triple H match and was involved in an angle with them in the ring no less. He's also appeared at a couple of house shows, usually near his home in Texas where he's done some autograph signings or participated as a Special Referee.
But no need to be all logical about it, I see what you are saying and I guess I just find it funny that he's been so eager to continue working with the WWE. Especially when he's got plenty of money and is well known enough to have his name kept out there.
I also see Punk's latest storyline as a way of getting rid of the current WWE title belt. Ideally, they could have him not win the belt and just steal it anyway on his way out. Then Cena could be presented with a new and hopefully tasteful design. It would also give Punk an immediate storyline for his eventual return, he could walk in claiming to be champion with the old belt and that could result in an "undisputed" match like HBK and Razor Ramon had at Wrestlemania X.
But no need to be all logical about it, I see what you are saying and I guess I just find it funny that he's been so eager to continue working with the WWE. Especially when he's got plenty of money and is well known enough to have his name kept out there.
I also see Punk's latest storyline as a way of getting rid of the current WWE title belt. Ideally, they could have him not win the belt and just steal it anyway on his way out. Then Cena could be presented with a new and hopefully tasteful design. It would also give Punk an immediate storyline for his eventual return, he could walk in claiming to be champion with the old belt and that could result in an "undisputed" match like HBK and Razor Ramon had at Wrestlemania X.
Cena's the one who brought in the spinner belt though when the WWE was still doing custom belts. If they wanted to redesign the title then they would need an entirely new champion in my opinion. Besides which...as mentioned a few times before the "props" as they're reported to be called now back stage aren't important to Vince, so I seriously doubt we will get any new designs. That's more an Impact Wrestling thing now. I was actually surprised when the Miz got his "custom" title a few months ago.
If Cena is still champion through to Survivor Series (or whatever PPV the fall PPV is now) then I will start to believe this bullshit that he will be champion through to next April.
If Cena is still champion through to Survivor Series (or whatever PPV the fall PPV is now) then I will start to believe this bullshit that he will be champion through to next April.
I thought this as soon as he said it and it really concerns me. What is the point in elevating anyone on Raw if they will just end up losing to Cena?
Back in 2005 when Cena won the title for the first time, there was talk that he should hold onto to the title until the end of 2006. It was WWE's reasoning that their new top babyface should set a record for longest reigning WWE champion on RAW. Paul Heyman in an interview discussed how in creative meetings they were trying to get the belt off Cena and onto Kurt Angle without burying Cena too much. Eventually they just copped out and had Angle win the belt on Smackdown when Batista went out with an injury. Cena's run didn't turn out as well as they anticipated so they had him drop the belt to Edge and then win it back before losing it to Rob Van Dam during the ECW hype and regaining it from Edge.
It was then planned for Cena to hold the WWE title all the way to Wrestlemania 24, but they didn't count on his injury and therefore put the title on Orton. It was then decided that it was a silly idea to have a champion reign for an extended period of time, since the risk of injuries is higher now than it was in the 80's/early 90's.
I'm thinking that unless Cena gets injured, or they really invest in building somebody up, that he will indeed hold the title until Wrestlemania 28. If not until then, he will surely win it back beforehand. This means that for the fourth year running, the Royal Rumble winner will be challenging for the Smackdown title.