wwe vs tnt anyone watching?

[donners22]

^ As has been stated before, they're just one aspect of a larger problem. TNA was going down hill before those two joined. As long as they keep on doing WCW type programming and booking they won't be any threat or competition for Vince.

Not really. They had a poor start to 2009 quality-wise, but by the end of the year (especially the last two PPVs) they were on a real hot streak. Styles, Daniels and Joe were in the main event, Wolfe had huge momentum after his series against Angle, and the introduction of Bischoff and Hogan should have seen a big boost in popularity to capitalise on what were already record ratings.

Instead, the direction was completely changed, the writing lost focus, viewers disappeared and the quality fell.


TNA will probably never be competition for WWE in the sense of getting to the same level of popularity. The reality is that WWE are far more established, and wrestling is on a massive decline at the moment (for many factors other than lack of competition.

All they need to be is a viable alternative. Turn a regular profit and maintain or increase their level of exposure. Their ratings this year have been their best ever, so if they can continue that boost and increase profitability, they will be doing well.

 

[timothy]

well since last week they are now touring regularly . and last weeks episode was a live one so maybe this will turn things around for them and they can come to dallas.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Last weeks Impact wasn't live? If it was then how did all the dirt sheets know that Sting had won the heavyweight championship? No they tape their shows.

 

[timothy]

well it was'nt the impact zone I know that much . and matches are schueled ahead
of time . maybe they pulled a brett heart on jeff .

 

[Admiral_Young]

Sting's return and world title win was known two weeks before it aired. They tape shows ahead of time Tim.

 

[donners22]

The last Impact was taped back in late February.

They tape two, sometimes more, shows in a row. This was the first time they've taken Impact on the road in ages (I think the last one was a one-off live show back in 2008), and I don't think it's going to be a regular thing.

Dixie has expressed concern about the significant cost. It did work well from a viewing perspective though.

 

[timothy]

tommarrow superstars and tna thoughts ?

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Then again... Eric Bischoff was the guy that said Chris Jericho would never get over in the Main Event. A clear example of his ignorance.

I can only presume that either that TNA creative is ignorant of the issue or they just don't care.

He's also the guy who thought Steve Austin didn't have star potential. There has to be someone else you can turn to to run a wrestling company.

 

[Icemizer]

Well in Erics defense(oboy) Stunning Steve Austin and the Ringmaster both sucked as characters. Without the Attitude era happening I doubt Austin would ever have become a huge star. That era allowed a certain type of character to flourish and it did not exist back when Eric took over. Even Vince had no idea what to do with this guy except have him hold the million dollar mans belt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YmLjzZXa_w

 

[Admiral_Young]

The 3:16 promo changed everything for the WWF at that time. Had fans not become swept up in Austin mania the attitude era would have never happened.

 

[Satyrquaze]

The moral of this story is: If Eric had listened to certain people instead of needlessly pandering to guys who should have already retired by that point (coughNWOcough), WCW could still be going strong and challenging WWE every week.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I dunno about that. Eric is just one problem. I really do think that Vince Russo and his way of booking and writing is a major problem. He's spent years attempting to replicate whatever success he had in the WWE and it just doesn't seem to work. I've seen guys cut promos in TNA about how they're the "wrestling" company and fans watch them to see "wrestling" matches but then they continue to rehash old gimmicks and storylines that bore fans. I dunno. WCW was a mess at the end. I'm not even sure Vince could have changed things around. I don't think the moral of the story is Eric Bischoff fucked up, that's an easy thing to claim. There were a multitude of problems going on backstage that interfered with the product on camera. I think the same thing is going on in TNA. I feel bad for Dixie who as I've stated before seems to genuinely care about her company but just isn't capable or listens too much to the old school guys. That was one of the things too about WCW, the old school bookers and writers weren't willing to change with the times and when they did try to their execution was off. I dunno. Vince has always been ahead of the times in terms of recognizing when to change things...some fans though have recently accused him of losing his touch, but those might just be Cena haters lol.


On another note...Sunny will be inducted into the HOF this year

 

[timothy]

sunny vs trish stratus who's hotter ?

we know vince is a way better buisness man and promotter than eric bishoff . I was
so happy that vince fired him from raw . He surrounds himself with yes men . and HE listens to them not a original a thought in his head .

ceana , ceana !!!

austin , austin !!

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Tammy Lynn Sytch as Sunny in her prime as a Bodydonna, (early to mid 90's) was damn near a goddess (and not of the Charlie Sheen variety either). Trish still looking pretty good too, so I'd say Trish.

Any chance of Glacier making a comeback? He was my favorite wrestler, haha

 

[Icemizer]

^ I am afraid Glacier lost a retirement match to the wrestler formally known as Prince Iakai and had to retire.

 

[timothy]

I am sorry I don't recall those two wrestlers . what program were they from ?

 

[Defcon]

^WCW

Glacier

Prince Iaukea

 

[timothy]

okay thanks for that I realy was'nt a wcw fan tlll hogan went over to them .
Mostly I am a WWE fan for life . But, I do enjoy TNA . more when jeff was running it full time . and when they had the octogon shaped ring . also love eric young when he was part of team canada . and I miss shark boy .

 

[donners22]

LOL, I still remember the Shark Boy & New Jack tag team. They had some brilliant segments.

Eric Young had finally found his niche as the leader of World Elite, and the new regime abruptly ended it. It was one of their worst moves - and there's a lot to choose from.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Trish is hotter than Sunny...but yeah Sunny in her prime was magnificent. She has her own youtube channel if anyone is interested and has done shoot interviews regarding her relationship with Shawn Michaels. She's also addressed Bret Hart's "Sunny Days" comment a couple of times.