Writers boo boo

[All Seeing Eye]

I just had a thought, the writers made a boo boo when they made out that Earth cannot gate to Atlantis because they just can't generate enough power and I say to you that that is FALSE.

Why you ask?

Let us take a look at Earth ships, before the Asgard the Prometheus relied on Naquadriah to power the Hyperdrive and other ships systems, when the Asgard fitted Hyperdrive what was it powered by? Naquadriah was no longer used and nuclear power just isn't powerful enough so clearly Earth ships such as the Daedalus class ship utilise some kind of Asgard power source and we know that Earth can recreate this technology because they build the Phoenix without Asgard help.

Any Asgard power source capable of powering Asgard shields, the plasma weapon and Hyperdrive on a tiny ship like the Daedalus class should easily be capable of generating enough power to gate to the Pegasus Galaxy. O'Neil was able to gate to the Ida Galaxy (which is further than Pegasus) just by makeing some modifications to the power cell of a Goa'uld staff weapon.

Gate travel from Earth to Pegasus should be a piece of cake just by building an Asgard power plant like that used on Daedalus class ships.

 

[Hermiod]

^This is hardly a "boo boo".

First, we don't know how far away Ida is in relation to Pegasus. Your suggestion that it's further away is not based on dialogue. Despite the name, the Pegasus galaxy seen in Stargate: Atlantis is a fictional one, as is Ida.

Just because Earth's ships have Asgard hyperdrives, that doesn't mean they're powered by Asgard power sources. The most likely scenario is that the ship uses multiple Naquahdah generators. This would make sense since most of Earth's pre-Asgard technology is based on Goa'uld designs.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

^This is hardly a "boo boo".

First, we don't know how far away Ida is in relation to Pegasus. Your suggestion that it's further away is not based on dialogue. Despite the name, the Pegasus galaxy seen in Stargate: Atlantis is a fictional one, as is Ida.

Just because Earth's ships have Asgard hyperdrives, that doesn't mean they're powered by Asgard power sources. The most likely scenario is that the ship uses multiple Naquahdah generators. This would make sense since most of Earth's pre-Asgard technology is based on Goa'uld designs.

But it's not based entirely on fiction, dialogue from General Hank Landry states that Pegasus is 3 million lightyears away, that's the exact same distance as the real life Pegasus Dwarf Irregular Galaxy. The Ida Galaxy on the other hand is indeed made up and could represent any number of Galaxies but since we know about all the nearby Galaxies to the Milky Way then it's more than safe to assume that Ida is far beyond Pegasus and far beyond even the Andromeda Galaxy.

As for your multiple Naquadha generator idea it completely contradicts what's been previously said. We were told that the Prometheus hyperdrive would not be possible without Naquadriah because Naquadah just doesn't generate enough power. The hyperdrive back then was Earth made back engineered from Goa'uld technology and was not the more sophisticated larger Asgard hyperdrive which more than likely requires a hell of a lot more power. It's only logical to assume that the Daedalus class ships are using Asgard power plants.

 

[Brent]

I just had a thought, the writers made a boo boo when they made out that Earth cannot gate to Atlantis because they just can't generate enough power and I say to you that that is FALSE.

Why you ask?

Let us take a look at Earth ships, before the Asgard the Prometheus relied on Naquadriah to power the Hyperdrive and other ships systems, when the Asgard fitted Hyperdrive what was it powered by? Naquadriah was no longer used and nuclear power just isn't powerful enough so clearly Earth ships such as the Daedalus class ship utilise some kind of Asgard power source and we know that Earth can recreate this technology because they build the Phoenix without Asgard help.

Any Asgard power source capable of powering Asgard shields, the plasma weapon and Hyperdrive on a tiny ship like the Daedalus class should easily be capable of generating enough power to gate to the Pegasus Galaxy. O'Neil was able to gate to the Ida Galaxy (which is further than Pegasus) just by makeing some modifications to the power cell of a Goa'uld staff weapon.

Gate travel from Earth to Pegasus should be a piece of cake just by building an Asgard power plant like that used on Daedalus class ships.

First of all, Ida is closer to the Milky Way than Pegasus.

Secondly, how do you know Naquadriah is no longer used? It has never been stated that they've fitted the new ships with Asgard power sources. IMO it is still powered by Naquadriah, now finally controlled thanks to Asgard help and using Asgard hyperdrive engines.

Apparently the power required to gate to the Pegasus galaxy must be achieve on the scale of power produced by a ZPM. Even the Asgard don't have ZPMs, now, they may have something similar to its power, but we don't really know.

Even the Asgard in the Lost Tribe came to the Pegasus via intergalactic ships, not Stargate. So the Asgard may very well not have a power source capable of dialing the Pegasus galaxy. However, they do have plenty of power to travel to other galaxies via their ships. In fact, they have gone from the Ida galaxy to Earth in under an hour. So their ships were very fast.

 

[Brent]

^This is hardly a "boo boo".

First, we don't know how far away Ida is in relation to Pegasus. Your suggestion that it's further away is not based on dialogue. Despite the name, the Pegasus galaxy seen in Stargate: Atlantis is a fictional one, as is Ida.

Just because Earth's ships have Asgard hyperdrives, that doesn't mean they're powered by Asgard power sources. The most likely scenario is that the ship uses multiple Naquahdah generators. This would make sense since most of Earth's pre-Asgard technology is based on Goa'uld designs.

But it's not based entirely on fiction, dialogue from General Hank Landry states that Pegasus is 3 million lightyears away, that's the exact same distance as the real life Pegasus Dwarf Irregular Galaxy. The Ida Galaxy on the other hand is indeed made up and could represent any number of Galaxies but since we know about all the nearby Galaxies to the Milky Way then it's more than safe to assume that Ida is far beyond Pegasus and far beyond even the Andromeda Galaxy.

As for your multiple Naquadha generator idea it completely contradicts what's been previously said. We were told that the Prometheus hyperdrive would not be possible without Naquadriah because Naquadah just doesn't generate enough power. The hyperdrive back then was Earth made back engineered from Goa'uld technology and was not the more sophisticated larger Asgard hyperdrive which more than likely requires a hell of a lot more power. It's only logical to assume that the Daedalus class ships are using Asgard power plants.

Ida is closer to Earth than the Pegasus galaxy is. Ida is a made up galaxy that is closer. This is why Jack could make that Ancient power source from a Staff Weapon and make it dial Ida, its closer, hence less power is needed.

YOu don't know what the Asgard hyperdrive requires. WE do know that if more power is fed into the hyperdrive the faster it goes, as evidenced when using a ZPM. Therefore they could very well be using multiple naquada generators, or they could be using naquadria, but I really don't think they have an Asgard power source powering the hyperdrive.

BUT, I am willing to suggest that perhaps maybe, now that they have the Asgard core installed, that its power source could help supliment power to the hyperdrive and Asgard weapons. BUT, we don't know how powerful it really is in relation to anything. All we know is that it sustained a ship in a time bubble for 60 years.