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Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television series?

Would you watch a RDM produced Warhammer 40K series

  • Yes.

    Votes: 9 69.2%
  • No, I want to see a 40k series, but not helmed by Moore

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • No, Warhammer sucks.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • MORE DAKKA!!!

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

hyzmarca

Fleet Captain
Fleet Captain
The thread title is self explanatory.

Take the hopelessness, despair, and general human misery of nuBSG and add in Space Marines with chainsaw swords fighting warp Daemons and the forces of Chaos. I think that Moore would be right at home in the setting, given the usual tone of his work.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

Heh, it probably would be right up Moore's alley. Darkness, misery, human life as cheap as they come, bullshit mysticism and a fairly straightforward premise (every race hates every other race and they do battle) means he wouldn't have to worry about those annoying 'plot' things that take time away from doing whatever the hell you feel like with the characters.

The problem with a 40K series, helmed by anyone, is that there's no character for the audience to connect with. In 40K, everybody is a mindless killer or indoctrinated xenophobe, which makes it hard to give a damn, week-to-week, if any one of them lives or dies; which was the same problem nuBSG eventually developed as almost every character was turned into an asshole. And, of course, there's the SFX... it would either be back-breakingly expensive for a very niche series; have to rely on very cheap SFX (ala Farscape, Who or Primeval); or do what Rome did and skip the battles entirely.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
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I'd at least check it out regardless of who was behind it. The only problem I see is that for some fundamental reason, shows based on games just never seem to work, at least not on a level palatable to the mainstream masses. Unless of course it WAS a game show. Now you have a concept; And hell, they can still get Ron Moore to host it.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

I wouldn't mind a WH40K series of some kind but it would have to be very expensive since a lot of concepts in Warhammer are over the top like massive armies and Titans. If Ron Moore was at the helm all I ask is that he doesn't abide by a BS "must be realistic" and "no aliens!" rule. Oh and they must have the Necron show up at some point along with the Chaos gods.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

What's WARHAMMER? I see it advertaised at comic shops and magazines, but I have no clue what it's about!
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

The thread title is self explanatory.

Not for those of us who have no frakkin idea what "Warhammer" is other than the vague suspicion that it's a video game. :rommie:

But I voted "yes." I'd watch Mary Had a Little Lamb as reimagined by Ron Moore. :bolian:
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

If Ron Moore was at the helm all I ask is that he doesn't abide by a BS "must be realistic" and "no aliens!" rule. Oh and they must have the Necron show up at some point along with the Chaos gods.

I think "must be realistic" went out the window on nuBSG a while back. And yes, I could just see the final scene of a 40K Ron Moore series: Tzeentch and Slaanesh, strolling down a causeway on Holy Terra, reflecting on how Chaos is once more gaining in strength and the cycle of war never ends.

What's WARHAMMER? I see it advertaised at comic shops and magazines, but I have no clue what it's about!

Tabletop wargame that is played with miniatures you typically assemble and paint yourself. Warhammer 40K is set in the far future, a bleak universe where a sprawling human Imperium, a violent and genocidally xenophobic theocracy, battles continously for survival against a number of bloodthirsty or otherwise callous alien races and debauched traitors in the service of what are essentially evil deities. Fun, if you're into that kind of thing.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

What's WARHAMMER? I see it advertaised at comic shops and magazines, but I have no clue what it's about!

It's a tabetop wargame, with a fairly detailed and rich backstory fleshed out in a rather large amount of literature.

The core conceit of of Warhammer is the Immaterium, most commonly known as the Warp. The Imaterium is a plot device that serves as both hyperspace and afterlife, providing FTL, psychic powers, and gods. It is where souls go when people die, it is the source of all psychic powers and magics, and it is a fairly useful shortcut if you can access it. It's also influenced by the thoughts and emotions of sentient beings, and this is bad. Unbridled base emotion can create what is known as Chaos, and from this spawn daemons and even gods, hungry for souls. As a result, FTL travel is quite dangerous, as are psychics. There is a non-zero chance your ship will be invaded by deamons any time you go on an interstellar trip, and a pretty good change that any psychic will eventually be possessed and go on a killing spree.

Many thousands of years ago, on Earth, a group of powerful Shamans noticed the effects that unbridled human emotion was having on the warp, and that their numbers were dwindling as the souls of their dead were being eaten rather than being reincarnated. To protect humanity, they sacrificed their lives and fused their souls together, being collectively reborn as an immortal superbeing powerful enough to oppose the forces of Chaos. For many thousands of years, he guided and protected humanity secretly, and mankind spread out amongst the start. It was a golden age of peace and prosperity. And it would have ended that way, if humanity was alone amongst the stars. Alas, it wasn't.

The Eldar, essentially space Elves, were generally bored and decadent. They had a huge civilization and nothing but free time on their hands. They were didn't care about humanity, having all of their energies directed inward towards self-pleasure, but that didn't matter much. Their extreme hedonism coalesced within the warp, eventually becoming a hermaphroditic god of pleasure. When this Chaos God was born, it's first cries ripped a hole in the Warp, allowing chaos to spill over into the physical universe, utterly destroying Eldar civilization, and it produces warp storms, lasting centuries, which rendered FTL travel and communication impossible across huge swaths of human space.

The spintered and fragmented humanity, lacking the infrastructure to maintain their utopian technology, degenerated, some worlds more than others. And the immortal being who had been guiding and protecting humanity in secret decided to take a more proactive role. His solution, create a huge army of genetically engineered cyborg Space Marines and unite humanity one world at a time once the warp storms cleared.

He would have succeeded, too, except for the fact that his most trusted Warmaster, Horus, was corrupted by Chaos. The Emperor could not bring himself to slay his favored child, and as a result was critically wounded. Before he was injured, he designed a giant psychic beacon that he to guide human ships through the Warp and ensure that human civilization never again falls so completely appart. His broken body was placed in a complex lifesupport system and connected to that device, as per his wishes.

Unfortunately, he is effectvly a vegetable, barely having enough strength to control the beacon, and totally unable to rule the empire that he created. Around him formed a powerful totalitarian theocracy that rules, supposedly in his stead according to his wishes, though they do not. While the Space Marines fight against Chaos and aliens alike, the Inquisition uses brutal tactics to sniff out the forces of chaos at home, but it is a losing battle. Science is a lost art, being replaced by a variety of mysticism that impedes human progress, and every day more and more psychics are born, every one of them a potential conduit through which daemons can ravage an entire world.

Add to this backdrop the standard Insectoid Hive Mind, Rigidly caste-based Space Communists, the aforementioned Space Elves - in both sanctimonious asshole and depraved sadist flavors, Undead Cyborgs who worship star-eating gods, and Sentient Humanoid Fungus Genetically Engineered to Love War, with latent psychic powers such that their mechanics can cobble together improbable and impossible machines that work, including vehicles that go faster because they're painted red.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

I don't know what Warhammer is but if Moore is on board then so am I.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

If I was the slightest bit aware of it what it is, probably. Even without the slightest idea, probably.
 
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YES. It keeps him from f'ing up another franchise property like he did with GINO err nuBSG. :scream:
 
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I'd watch any 40K show.. period. ;)

Ron Moore helming it would be icing on the cake.. he knows how to write good drama and good action. What makes him good is that he knows exactly what a show should be about and then implements it.. a BSG approach wouldn't work that well with 40K but i believe he would find a good angle.

However having a Gaunt's Ghosts series would make me delirious :lol:

Explanation:
Gaunt's Ghosts is a novel series set in the universe of Warhammer 40.000 and portrays the actions of an elite infantry regiment whose specialty is stealth and recon operations (they're light infantry after all).
They hail from the world of Tanith which got destroyed completely (and i mean completely.. no resettlement possible) and are lead by Ibram Gaunt, a Commissar (think of WW2 Soviet Commissars.. yes, those guys who'd shoot their own men if they showed cowardice) who led off the only Tanith regiment that survived the Tanith holocaust (that's why their battlecry is "First and Only!").

Gaunt is a somewhat more "humane" commissar, i.e. he leads through inspiration and encouragement rather than through fear, but he still is a comissar and thus has to sometimes perform his job the other way.

You have many different character types.. Colm Corbec, the big, stalwart 2iC, Rawne , 3rd officer who"d like nothing nore than to kill Gaunt in revenge for leading them off Tanith instead of allowing them to fight and die for their home, "Mad" Larkin, old but expert sniper who's a bit mentally unstable and several others.

Throughout the series they sustain heavy losses including several main characters but find new recruits on several occasions to replenish their ranks.

It's not high literature but compelling nonetheless and depending on scenario and theatre of war could be done well with a modest to high TV budget (BSG level and quality would work just fine)

Sorry for this rant.. i believe the 40K universe would be a godsend for the TV and movie business because it has everything that makes an action show/movie.
 
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I don't really know what warhammer is- but if it is what I think it is- fantasy is just not really my thing.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

What's WARHAMMER? I see it advertaised at comic shops and magazines, but I have no clue what it's about!

It's a tabetop wargame, with a fairly detailed and rich backstory fleshed out in a rather large amount of literature.

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Well enough summary but i'd like to expand a bit:

The Emperor made himself known to humanity after the golden age has ended with what was called the Age of Strife when humanity all but tore itself apart with their highly advanced technologies of which many were lost.

He conquered Earth and then set out to the stars to reestablish contacts with lost colonies. To accomplish this he geneticallz engineered 20 Primarchs.. superhuman beings he designed to lead his armies. However due to an accident they were scattered across the galaxy where they were slowly rediscovered by the Emperor and reintergraded into the Imperium (having developed on their own on the worlds they were found and having often taken characteristics of that world and culture as their own).

Each of these Primarchs were given command of a Space Marine Legion, genetecially improved supersoldiers based on the genetic code of their Primarch, to spearhead the reconquest of the galaxy.

Unbeknownst to anyone their best commander, Horus, was seduced by the evil Warpgods and turned against his brothers and his Emperor. In a masterful diplomatic and strategic action he lured half of the Legions (or otherwise kept them out of the fight) and their Primarchs to his side and heavily decimated the still loyal Legions in a trap he laid out with himself as the bait.

The resulting civil war reached climax in the Battle for Earth (or Terra as it's called) where under immense losses the Loyalists managed to beat back the assault after the Emperor slew Horus on his flagship at the cost of his almost death.
The Emperor was placed in a stasis device, the Golden Throne as it is called, unable to interact with his surroundings as he's a hair's width away from real death.

After that the Imperium devolved from an enlightened society into a brutal, xenophobic fascist theocracy that constantly wages war against a multitude of enemies while itself slowly declining in technological skill and knowledge.
 
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I don't really know what warhammer is- but if it is what I think it is- fantasy is just not really my thing.

It's basically a fantasy setting transposed to the future.

Genetically advanced supersoldiers with high tech equipment and the Imperial Army (tanks, tanks and lots of infantry) vs. Space Elves (Eldar), Orks (well.. Orks but now with crude guns and crude vehicles), Tyranids (think Aliens but with massive Hive Fleets able to devour an entire planets) and Chaos in general (Imperial traitors and Demons).
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

According to these threads, in the future all sci-fi TV will be created by Ron Moore, Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams. JMS will still be trying to get another show in the meantime.
 
Re: Would you watch of Ron Moore produced Warhammer 40K television ser

According to these threads, in the future all sci-fi TV will be created by Ron Moore, Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams. JMS will still be trying to get another show in the meantime.

Helps if you're not a pretentious dick who's living off the credit of having made a hugely popular SF show more than 10 years ago.
 
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