Would you use Transfer Transit to travel?

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK I binged out on Dark Matter in the last 4 weeks.

One thing I really liked was transfer transit. It's like a Star Trek transporter only you stay in one spot and it spits out a copy of you to do whatever you want and at the end of whatever it is you were going to do the clone is recycled and the memories uploaded back to you as if you had visited the place you sent the clone.

Would you use it?

I would totally use that if it meant you could travel places without going there yourself.

 

[Romulan_spy]

It does have the advantage of not (maybe) killing you each time like Trek transporters. What is weird about TT is that you never actually traveled anywhere but you would have all these memories that would make you think that you did. The memories would make it indistinguishable from actually physically traveling to the place. Weird.

 

[Tom]

It was an interesting idea for sure. Of course if you clone dies you will not get the memories of what he/she did, but maybe that's a good thing.

I'm still upset the show was cancelled.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

It was an interesting idea for sure. Of course if you clone dies you will not get the memories of what he/she did, but maybe that's a good thing.

I'm still upset the show was cancelled.

Join the club. I'm bummed out about that ending to season 3 and all. Joe Mallozi is very active on reddit and still talking about the show.

Oh and please people you are not destroyed in a Trek transporter the process is continuous and we've been shown many times on the show that you going in is you coming out.

 

[Kytee]

heck yes I would use it . you could make the most of your time off by taking out the travel time . And you could go anywhere , I think the memories would be as real as any other for you.
The only disturbing thing would be if your clone died, probably good you dont remember dying, but possibly problematic that you dont recall what lead up to it. I assume you would be accountable for your clones actions,

Still so many benefits to this mode of travel , I'd do it for certain.

 

[Morpheus 02]

heck yes I would use it . you could make the most of your time off by taking out the travel time . And you could go anywhere , I think the memories would be as real as any other for you.
The only disturbing thing would be if your clone died, probably good you dont remember dying, but possibly problematic that you dont recall what lead up to it. I assume you would be accountable for your clones actions,

Still so many benefits to this mode of travel , I'd do it for certain.

now THAT would make a great sci-fi episode..where someone could get framed if someone else was able to tamper with the machine so that the real clone didn't make it through but rather an substitute that looked like the real one and cause havoc before dying

 

[JD]

I would definitely use it. It removes the travel time, and since you can't die, you could do more dangerous things than normal, and not have to worry risking your life.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

It's just like "Think Like A Dinosaur". Your clone gets killed, but you get away scot-free. I don't think I'd want to travel like that, knowing that each time a clone of me has to die.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I would take the vacation, and the clone would go to work.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I would take the vacation, and the clone would go to work.

Haha see that's the kind of thinking that works.

I'm surprised the crew of the Raza didn't do that..

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Some questions:

• What happens if you die while your clone is alive?
• What are your liabilities for the criminal behaviour of your clone?
• Are there any psychological or physiological side effects of unfiltered memories suddenly being dumped in your brain - especially if your clone witnessed or took part in criminal acts?
• If your clone witnessed criminal acts and you have access to these memories, are the memories admissable evidence in a court of law?

No way would I trust this technology not to screw up. It seemed like an anachronism on Dark Matter anyway - too advanced to be credible given the level of other tech around them. Much like I've always felt about the transporter tech on Star Trek, where it was mainly introduced to save money I believe, rather than just look cool. The version on Blakes 7 seemed more credible as it appeared to displace you wholesale (using serendipitously discovered, unfathomable, alien tech) rather than disassemble and reconstruct your body atom by atom.

 

[Gavin70]

It does have the advantage of not (maybe) killing you each time like Trek transporters.

I keep hearing people talk about the idea of Trek transporters killing people and creating copies. I've never seen anything in the show to suggest anything other than disassembly and reassembly of the existing body and I can't imagine any reason why anyone would willingly use a system that killed them and left a copy to continue their life.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I keep hearing people talk about the idea of Trek transporters killing people and creating copies. I've never seen anything in the show to suggest anything other than disassembly and reassembly of the existing body and I can't imagine any reason why anyone would willingly use a system that killed them and left a copy to continue their life.

If Trek transporters use quantum entanglement, the copy is you down to the quantum level. The atoms and most of the cells in your body are being recycled all the time in any case. We are fundamentally ever-changing patterns of information running on a substrate.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I keep hearing people talk about the idea of Trek transporters killing people and creating copies. I've never seen anything in the show to suggest anything other than disassembly and reassembly of the existing body and I can't imagine any reason why anyone would willingly use a system that killed them and left a copy to continue their life.

disassembly and reassembly is killing the person. In order to disassemble, you must destroy, ie kill, the original person. And reassembling the person just means you are creating a perfect copy since you just destroyed the original.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

disassembly and reassembly is killing the person. In order to disassemble, you must destroy, ie kill, the original person. And reassembling the person just means you are creating a perfect copy since you just destroyed the original.

That's not how transporters in trek work.

 

[Romulan_spy]

That's not how transporters in trek work.

I don't think it is clear exactly how they work. That's why trek fans debate this issue all the time. There are episodes to support both views. I am just saying that if you take the view that transporters disassemble and reassemble you, then they kinda are killing you. Of course, if you take the different view that transporters just phase shift you then they are not killing you. It all depends on how you interpret how they work. The TNG ep "Realm of Fear" seems to imply that the transporter does not disassemble you or kill you since we see Barclay still very much alive and conscience during the transporter sequence. However, there are other eps that say that the transporter does disassemble you.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I keep hearing people talk about the idea of Trek transporters killing people and creating copies. I've never seen anything in the show to suggest anything other than disassembly and reassembly of the existing body

We have seen the transporter process from the viewpoint of the person being transported (the aforementioned "Realm of Fear") and also conversations taking place in real time during transport (TWOK) so those alone make it clear that they're not killing people and making duplicates.

 

[Ellery_D]

I can't imagine any reason why anyone would willingly use a system that killed them and left a copy to continue their life.

OK. So, let's compare that "fear" with a different concern in Transfer Transit. With TT, your body and life remain safely at home (or at the departure emporium). But what surprises me is that the clone is able to continue with your adventure without succumbing to an emotional crisis. Would he/she not have difficulty coping with the fact that in a few days (or at any time during high risk activity), he will be exploded or recycled. Clones are thinking, feeling sentient beings—yet they are given only a few days of life, only to be harvested for their recent memories!

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK. So, let's compare that "fear" with a different concern in Transfer Transit. With TT, your body and life remain safely at home (or at the departure emporium). But what surprises me is that the clone is able to continue with your adventure without succumbing to an emotional crisis. Would he/she not have difficulty coping with the fact that in a few days (or at any time during high risk activity), he will be exploded or recycled. Clones are thinking, feeling sentient beings—yet they are given only a few days of life, only to be harvested for their recent memories!

But I think the clones know that or some programming happens when they are made.

What bugged me is that you had to stay inside the tube while the clone was doing whatever it did. Why couldn't you get out and do other stuff and return and the end of the trip to collect the memories?

 

[Ellery_D]

But I think the clones know that or some programming happens when they are made.

What bugged me is that you had to stay inside the tube while the clone was doing whatever it did. Why couldn't you get out and do other stuff and return and the end of the trip to collect the memories?

No, @Trinity Jinglebrocks -- this is not the case!
Early in season 3, a TT traveler was told he could stay in the pod and wait for the clone to return or leave the pod if they preferred. I don't recall if there is any disadvantage to being away from the pod when memories return via subspace radio.