Would you rather live in the SW universe or the ST universe?

[Temis the Vorta]

And the disconnect between the PT Jedi Era and the NJO makes no sense. If the Jedi could function just fine with attachments, then that makes the PT Jedi look like morons for imposing onerous rules on their people for no damn good reason.

That's generally my view. I think the Jedi Order had succumbed to dry rot over the thousand generations they'd been around. I mean, come on. They failed to notice their greatest enemy was right under their noses, repeatedly talking face to face to the leaders of the Order, for ten years. And he wasn't even hiding. He was winning! They were constantly talking about how powerful the Dark Side was becoming. If that was the Jedi at the top of their game, they sucked.

Yeah, but I think the Jedi were incompetent in the same way the Federation started the Dominion War - it was an unintended consequence of sloppy writing that we were never intended to see. Writers generally manage to signal that we're expected to view characters in a certain way. The Jedi, despite their monumental stupidity, were never presented as anything but heroic. The Federation, despite its imperialistic arrogance, was never presented as anything but the good guys.

One common way of signalling "these aren't the heroes" is for somebody else to be the hero. If the Jedi are incompetent bozos, then Anakin should be the Man Alone, who realizes that the Jedi don't deserve his allegiance, and enacts an intelligent and well-thought-through plan to do an end run around them and save the day regardless. But Anakin was just as incompetent as the Jedi, and bungled just as badly. So who's the hero? Palps, I guess.

 

[David cgc]

There's always Qui-Gon. He had his disagreements with the Order. And Obi-Wan could be considered a hero. I think if Anakin had gone to him for help with Padme, he would've. The trouble with Anakin was that he was so scared to face the consequences of his actions, that he ignored the consequences of inaction. See, he needed to watch more Corellian cop dramas. If you admit what you did, it's worth a lot, if they have to catch you, it's a different story.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Star Trek, either way.

In Star Wars, I'm looking at me and my offspring having our lives ruined by the Jedi/Sith conflict for man many many millenia to come.

 

[Whofan]

Regarding the NJO, they aren't perfect either and by the time of the Legacy comics, are pretty much wiped out yet again.


The real reason there's a disconnect though, is that the Luke Jedi order was established in 1994-1995 (The Jedi Academy novels), before Lucas has fleshed out the prequel's Jedi order. Even the depictions of Old Republic Jedi up to that point (Mainly the Tales of the Jedi series) reflect this.