would you rather have had one last GOOD TNG movie?

[QuasarVM]

No doubt, but that does not give them the right to make up shitty stories that the writers want to tell because patrick would take his ball and go home. Seriously, wtf. is he 10?

I have had employees who act like that and once they do, no matter what they do after all, I always think of them as a 10 year old. To act like it is ok to take yourself and your ball and leave because you dont get everything you want is obsured, even if he is Patrick stewert he should be a grown up.

First Contact was a great story, great movie, and I really enjoyed it. Ron will go to all ends to appologize for Generations, but do you see Bret or Patick even giving a damn about Insurection or Nemesis.

I thin part of the reason Franks didn't get the Nemesis job was because TPTB were hopping it would put P&B in their places.... didn't work, but still.

Are you kidding? Stewart and Spiner had more clout on Nemesis than any other Trek film. They had direct story input. In fact, writer John Logan was a personal friend of Spiners. That was no accident, believe me.

But, I get what you're saying...and I agree with you. The actors should act and we should have real directors and real writers working on these films.

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True - in fact in an interview, Spiner tells a story about how they came up with the scene I HATED most:

Logan called him up and said he was stuck because he need to get Picard and Data from the Romulans back to the Enterprise and couldn't figure out a good way that worked; Spiner then suggested that they steal a Romulan Shuttlecraft; and then Logan said, hey, let's ave them fly it THROUGH the ship and Spiner's response...GREAT!

Thus we got a ridiculous scene where a shuttlecraft flys THROUGH the corridors of the Romulan Ship and out through what essentially was a 'piture window' on the ship...

And Spiner gleefuling patting himself and Logan on the back for coiming up with this crap over a 'simple phone call'.

Ugh. Yeah. That was a Gawdawful scene, but at least the movie showed signs of a PULSE at that point. I swear I had to wake myself up on more than one occasion...can you say boring?

But as bad as that scene was, it was not as bad as the cold, emotionless "Data death scene". That's when I knew (officially) that Rick Berman had killed Star Trek.

 

[cubbie]

And I'm sorry, but Ron Moore--*snip*--should stay far away from Trek

Completely agree!

 

[Miss Chicken]

Nope, I think I have seen enough of TNG and do not long for any more movies with that crew.

I don't thinl Nero's reaction was all that much different from the Kremin captain in the Voyager episode "Year of Hell". Both are unable to accept the death of their people and their wives. Annorax keeps trying to restore the timeline that will allow his wife to exist again and is willing to destroy whole civilisations to do so.

Nero's reaction was completely different from Annorax, the Krenim captain in Year of Hell. Nero's reaction is a mindless revenge trip. A one dimentional baddy. While Annorax is an obsessive but logical attempt to restore the timeline. Annorax is a much more complex and multi-dimentional character than Nero which is a standard baddy (the Star Trek 2009 story is more about the meeting and creation of the TOS crew).

I don't understand Nero's beef with Spock anyway? He just tried to save Romulus, but unfortunately arrived too late. Did Spock stopped at a drive-in for a burger or something? Maybe he should just have stayed home that day.

Their reactions weren't that different. Both of them were unable to accept the death of their wives. Annorax attempts to restore his timeline weren;t that logical. At times he had almost entirely restored the Kremin empire but not his wife. He was willing to destroyed entire civilisations and countless people just to get his wife back.

It is true that Nero's character was not as well developed as Annorax but that is because the movie had many characters that had to be developed (Kirk, Spock, rest of the crew) whereas only one character had to be developed in "Year of Hell" as the Voyager crew were well established. It took a double episode to develop Annorax and therefore he could be given much more screen time than Nero could be given.

Some grieving people do seek mindless revenge to the death of a loved one. I had a friend who died of a heart attack at the age of 52. The friend concerned had two previous heart attacks, was grossly overweight (145 kilos) and wouldn't give up smoking or change her lifestyle. Yet her daughter blamed my friend's doctor for her death. The daughter confronted the doctor several times (the doctor had to get a restraining order) , the daughter tried to get police to take action and kept phoning the coroner. She wanted an inquest for a death that was obviously 'death by natural causes". The daughter's reaction was totally illogical. She blamed a person who had only tried to help her mother.

Nero's reaction was more severe but his lost had been many times greater than of my friend's daughter. He was also surrounded by a crew who had suffered just as great a loss. There was no-one around him to help modify his behavoiur and make them realise that his anger wasn't rational.

 

[Mr. Logic]

Well, I might get a lot of hate for this. But I was really hoping that the ST:Enterprise cast would be next for a movie. I really liked that series and was very sad to see it go. But when I heard what they were gonna do, I was fine with a new version of TOC (the original crew, more accurate than TOS), as long as Gene's vision lived on with dignity.

 

[perigee]

Well, I might get a lot of hate for this. But I was really hoping that the ST:Enterprise cast would be next for a movie. I really liked that series and was very sad to see it go. But when I heard what they were gonna do, I was fine with a new version of TOC (the original crew, more accurate than TOS), as long as Gene's vision lived on with dignity.

ENTERPRISE: Search for the Beamed Beagle.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Rather than this?

God no.

I am so over the smugness of that 1980's PC TNG crew I could hurl.

Thank god I didn't have to sit though another nonosecond of that! Especially that weak link Marina Sirtus.

I mean, I realize that Trek is her only possible paycheck. But she's taken enough of my money.

And let's face it....the only decent TNG movie there is is First Contact...and that was a LONG time ago. Any movie they did now would be a dismal failure.

Plus, after the embarrassment of Nemesis, I think they'd have a pretty hard time getting Patrick Stewart. He's the only one of them with a real, reasonably high-profile career outside of Trek, and another movie like Nemesis would be career suicide for him.

 

[PiperMaru22]

I was born in the 80s and so was raised on TNG/DS9/VOY and I am probably most attached to TNG as far as the shows are concerned, but after the last two movies...I don't think I want to see another one with the TNG crew. If anything, I wish the last two movies had been better, that Nemesis could have been to TNG what Undiscovered Country was to TOS, but there's not much we can do about that is there?

So no, I don't want another TNG film, the opportunity has come and gone (twice) for it.

 

[kitsune]

would you rather have had one last GOOD TNG movie?

Your query presupposes that there was at least one good TNG movie.

 

[Jolantru]

Rather than this?

I would have.

It was a decent reboot but I thought the new Spock was lame and the villain's motives were ill conceived (read: a huge, retarded overreaction-- "Oh boo hoo, my sun went nova and SPOCK ITS ALL YOUR FAULT"). Otherwise I had no real problems with it.

One last TNG movie... maybe featuring some characters from DS9 would have made me way happier though.

No. Other than Picard and Data, I never found any of the TNG characters compelling. Not like TOS cast.

 

[3superearthtrek]

no way

 

[Izzy]

I'm a big TNG fan. By far my favorite series, and I have a mancrush on P. Stewart....

I would have liked an interesting TNG movie. I always feel like part of the problem is that how TNG was built as a series doesn't necessarily work as a movie. That said, FC did have one of my favorite scenes in all of Trek (Picard going nuts) so yeah...

I would have rather seen a movie in the aftermath of the Dominion War or something in the 24th century, preferably with the TNG crew. Part of it is that I hold an attachment to that world; the new Trek, none at all.

Still, that wouldn't have happened. But in an ideal world where Paramount fulfills my fantasies and makes a great TNG movie? Any day over new ST.

 

[Captain Pike]

To the OP: No, I couldn't be happier in the choice of the TOS crew.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I doubt a TNG movie could've had this quality of production nor as big a budget. As a result, less money for the franchise as it twindles out of relevance.

Star Trek XI made the franchise hip again, with the promise of more to come. "Star Trek" are words no longer needed to be whispered in shame

Trek XI felt like a movie by today's standards, while ironically, the TNG movies felt like they were a generation behind



Who knew Trek could look so glorious again