Would you have helped out?

[Amaris]

Don't feel sorry for me, I would rather be dead than to be in nursing home where I can't do anything for myself. That is something I don't want to experience.

I sure hope you don't think that people who suffer traumatic brain injuries or spinal injuries, and the like, should just be left to die. There is, believe it or not, FAR more to life than physical ability or disability.

I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it's going to matter. ed629 obviously feels very strongly about not requiring help from others. That's his choice, even though I find it a befuddling one.

 

[ed629]

Don't feel sorry for me, I would rather be dead than to be in nursing home where I can't do anything for myself. That is something I don't want to experience.

I sure hope you don't think that people who suffer traumatic brain injuries or spinal injuries, and the like, should just be left to die. There is, believe it or not, FAR more to life than physical ability or disability.

I didn't say others should be left to die, I said I would rather die than to be left in such a state. If I am at the point where I can't move, take care of myself, where I need others to keep me clean and keep me where I am not much more than something that is breathing I don't want that.

I know where you're coming from, but I don't think it's going to matter. ed629 obviously feels very strongly about not requiring help from others. That's his choice, even though I find it a befuddling one.

I don't want to or feel that I should depend on others, if I can't function on my own I don't feel or think others should help me because society would think less of them. People should make their own decisions based on what they feel without feeling obligated to what others may perceive of them. And this is what this whole thread seems to have come to, what would others think. If I don't want to smell or get another's shit on me, why should I because others would think I'm my own dignity get in the way of another's

And to reiterate on the original situation, I don't know where or how to contact the appropriate division to obtain this type of assistance, that should be up to person who requires it or the individuals who are the primary care givers for this person. Not someone he or she chose to approach. And I shouldn't be required to. But if someone had a heart attack or needed CPR I could provide the assistance they needed. There are dozens of automatic defibrillators around the campus, you place the contacts on the person, the machine decides what needs to be done, and also contact the emergency services to let them know where the emergency is. And working as LEO for a while taught me that if you cannot function in a situation then you are useless to those around you. Basically, and analytical response rather than an emotional one makes sure that you, and others involved go home.

 

[Amaris]

I don't want to or feel that I should depend on others, if I can't function on my own I don't feel or think others should help me because society would think less of them. People should make their own decisions based on what they feel without feeling obligated to what others may perceive of them. And this is what this whole thread seems to have come to, what would others think. If I don't want to smell or get another's shit on me, why should I because others would think I'm my own dignity get in the way of another's

And to reiterate on the original situation, I don't know where or how to contact the appropriate division to obtain this type of assistance, that should be up to person who requires it or the individuals who are the primary care givers for this person. Not someone he or she chose to approach. And I shouldn't be required to. But if someone had a heart attack or needed CPR I could provide the assistance they needed. There are dozens of automatic defibrillators around the campus, you place the contacts on the person, the machine decides what needs to be done, and also contact the emergency services to let them know where the emergency is. And working as LEO for a while taught me that if you cannot function in a situation then you are useless to those around you. Basically, and analytical response rather than an emotional one makes sure that you, and others involved go home.

That's fine. That's how you do things. We're all different. I don't think you're immoral or unethical because you would refuse to help a disabled person into the restroom.