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Would you agree with cloning.......

There are several different types of Asperger's Syndrome, I wish they had been more specific.

On one score that article is definitely onto something: Einstein had trouble tying shoelaces and when he attempted to enter the Smithsonian building housing a display in his honor, he could not navigate the revolving door and had to be led to an employee entrance which had a normal 'swing open and close' door.

As to 'thinking in images' then transfering them into words, many people do that. I absolutely agree that Einstein was brilliant, however, we have added to his knowledge base tremendously since his death.

One or two of his theories are now in question among quantum mechanic theorists, if I understand the articles correctly and I'm not saying I do. But we can see into deep space now whereas he could only theorize. Example, dark matter has only recently come into play as a force in the cosmos.
 
saturn0660 said:
Could be.. But, just because someone is given the best school/life/etc/etc doesn't mean anything.. He could just want to be a lazyass and live in his moms basement..
exactly. cloning will not guarantee that the clone actually even has an interest in physics.
 
zenophite said:
saturn0660 said:
Could be.. But, just because someone is given the best school/life/etc/etc doesn't mean anything.. He could just want to be a lazyass and live in his moms basement..
exactly. cloning will not guarantee that the clone actually even has an interest in physics.

Thats why they will get exceptional education in that area from a very early age.
 
Cloning is a matter of artificially creating an identical twin. It holds no promise that he we gain the same desires as the original and certainly not the same intelligence.
I also like to point out that the original was a drop out during grade school so giving the clone an elite education would be somewhat of a lost cause.
 
Fire said:
zenophite said:
saturn0660 said:
Could be.. But, just because someone is given the best school/life/etc/etc doesn't mean anything.. He could just want to be a lazyass and live in his moms basement..
exactly. cloning will not guarantee that the clone actually even has an interest in physics.

Thats why they will get exceptional education in that area from a very early age.

even with an exceptional education it does not guarantee that you will get the same result. In the process of giving him an exceptional education you could interest the einstein clone in something else entirely. What you would want to do would be to replicate precisely the environment that the original grew up in.
 
I'm not one of those idiots who get scared of new technology and would rather live in a neo-luddite world where everything was the same. I've got no problems with GM food or cloned animals. Has long as the animal doesn't have any health problems.


I was watching tv about Americans saying that cloned meat was ok. The idiots on tv kept talking about an exaggerated fear that it wasn't safe and unnatural. Thats all it took to dismiss a report people spend so long on. It was 968 pages long.
 
Stormrage said:
I'm not one of those idiots who get scared of new technology and would rather live in a neo-luddite world where everything was the same. I've got no problems with GM food or cloned animals. Has long as the animal doesn't have any health problems.


I was watching tv about Americans saying that cloned meat was ok. The idiots on tv kept talking about an exaggerated fear that it wasn't safe and unnatural. Thats all it took to dismiss a report people spend so long on. It was 968 pages long.
I agree with you, but I'm guessing you read the title of this thread without reading any of the posts, right? Unless you are saying Americans shouldn't be afraid of eating Albert Einstein's clone...
 
They can create sperm cells from cloned stem cells, does that mean women can by einstein goo in a can?
 
Would I agree with cloning Einstein? Would I agree that anyone could/should be arbitrarily cloned by some "cloning agency" and raised in some specific environment designed to enhance some specific ability or character trait?

If not anyone/everyone, why does Einstein have fewer rights than anyone else? Who decides who has the right to clone someone? Who decides who has the right to say "I don't want to be cloned"? Who decides what rights the clones have? Who "owns" them? Who owns the ideas or innovations that the cloned super-genius comes up with? The cloning agency?
 
I'm not sure what the point in cloning Albert Einstein would be. There would be no solid guarantee that the clone would exhibit the same level of intellect as its progenitor, even if educated to the highest degree in all present day knowledge and understanding of physics.

Another factor against cloning him is that our understanding of physics, the universe, quantum mechanics and science in general has come along in leaps and bounds since Einstein shuffled off this mortal coil, proof positive that we are more than capable of getting along without the original version, let alone a genetic copy of him.

I'd be far more likely to agree with cloning Winston Churchill - a great man who could give world geopolitics the swift kick up the backside it's been needing for the past 30 years!
 
I agree with you, but I'm guessing you read the title of this thread without reading any of the posts, right? Unless you are saying Americans shouldn't be afraid of eating Albert Einstein's clone...


Yeah. I thought it was about the recent case of a Federal Agency in America approving Cloned Beef.
 
To be all dull and serious about the issue (love the Walrus Einstein, Spiff - a definite improvement! :thumbsup:), I think this still boils down to whether or not someone agrees with cloning. If you don't want people to be cloned I can't see an argument for making an exception in Einstein's case (especially with the problems some other posters have noted), and if you want people to be cloned, why would you exclude Einstein as a possibility?

So the issue still boils down to: Do you agree with cloning?
 
^ There are a few other nuances to that. I could agree with cloning if the "original" gave permission, and the clone's legal rights, identity, family ties and potential inheritance etc were firmly established. In the case of Einstein, or anyone else already deceased, who owns the rights to the DNA, who is responsible for the clone's well being and upbringing, if it doesn't work out (ie the clone isn't a genius and has no marketable value) who takes care of him?
 
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