Janeway was pretty adamant in adhering to Federation rules and regulations despite being on the other side of the galaxy, I wonder whether she would have approved of a cloaking device being installed on Voyager? It's not like any Romulan would have known about it. I think the Voyager crew should have sought cloaking technology while they were in the Delta Quadrant. They met species who had the technology, I'm sure they could have obtained a cloak somehow. Voyager was attacked virtually every other week, a cloak would have come in handy.
Would Janeway have used a cloaking device?
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It would have been pointless the first two years. They would have had Seska show the Kazon how to track them (since she would have known the schematics for the cloaking device).
Yes, the voyager crew would adjust the frequency, all that after Seska left, but the writers would probably have Seska figure it out.
Yes, the voyager crew would adjust the frequency, all that after Seska left, but the writers would probably have Seska figure it out.
I say yes she would have used it. Because the Federation doesn't have cloaking tech because of a pact with the Romulans in the ALPHA quadrant. In DS9, even the Romulans allowed the Defiant to have a cloak (before the War and the alliance) for missions to the Gamma Quadrant. So being in the Delta Quadrant I think Voyager would have been ok, especially since the cloak wouldn't have been developed by the Federation.
But as far as Voyager's stories go I think a cloak would have created to a less "eventful" jaunt through the quadrant and thus there'd have been no series. So not having a cloak is kinda like a prevention of what most people complain about -- a Dues Ex Machina situation.
I don't think Voyager having a cloak would've been a form of deus ex machina at all. You could always have groups who would be able to see through it and don't forget that many of the problems the ship encountered were because it put itself in harm's way. And there's always the old "we're having technological issues, so naturally we're about to enter the territory of a supraterritorial race" standby.
Oh, heck, yeah.
Kim: Captain, long range sensors detect a Viidian ship heading this way!
Janeway: Deploy the cloaking device! NOW!
Any arguments?
Kim: Captain, long range sensors detect a Viidian ship heading this way!
Janeway: Deploy the cloaking device! NOW!
Any arguments?
the series should have run like this (generally)
1) Voyager keeps improving weapons, sheilds, and yes cloaks, via the new friends/enemies it meets.
2) Voyager returns to Earth in the middle of some great war, and the technology Voyager has gained turns the tide in the Federation's favor.
3) The "mishap" that befell Voyager has turned into a incredible blessing... and they all live happilly ever after... THE END.
1) Voyager keeps improving weapons, sheilds, and yes cloaks, via the new friends/enemies it meets.
2) Voyager returns to Earth in the middle of some great war, and the technology Voyager has gained turns the tide in the Federation's favor.
3) The "mishap" that befell Voyager has turned into a incredible blessing... and they all live happilly ever after... THE END.
I'd think that she'd at least consider it (she'd admitted to "bending" the prime directive at times). However, given the area of space they were in, i don't think there were very many races there which were capable of cloaking technology (except probably the care taker)
I think if they'd acquired one in the DQ and she refused to use it, she'd have been found throttled in a lift somewhere. Either that or Chakotay would have been forced to mutiny 
I think she would have used it though. Where the safety of her people was concerned, she was willing to do almost anything. I've only watched it the once {shudder} but didn't she use a cloaking device on the Batmobile shuttle in "Endgame"?
I think she would have used it though. Where the safety of her people was concerned, she was willing to do almost anything. I've only watched it the once {shudder} but didn't she use a cloaking device on the Batmobile shuttle in "Endgame"?
In Endgame when she did use a cloaking device, she was future, bitter Janeway. Maybe the Federation could use cloaks then, so maybe it wasn't against the treaty anymore.
Cloaking Voyager would have made many of the stories just simply not feasible, unless the cloak was buggy and B'Elanna couldn't keep it working right.
Cloaking Voyager would have made many of the stories just simply not feasible, unless the cloak was buggy and B'Elanna couldn't keep it working right.
Somehow in some of the situations she was in, a cloaking device would have been more handy than staying and trying to out fly/fight their way through. Afterall, weapons and shields require power too, in fact, nearly as much as the cloaking device or even more in fact.
I think she would have considering where they were and the circumstances it would be used. It is my understanding that the treaty says the federation would not develop cloaking technology. I am not sure the treaty would apply to a starfleet ship using an alien cloaking device on the opposite side of the galaxy.
The cloaking devices used by the people in Nightingale were so uncomplicated that Harry and Seven were able to fix, upgrade and rewire that first-generation-cloak on the fly without knowing anything about... Basically it was like an episode of MacGyver if consider how easily they mastered the technology without being familiar with those systems if it was only a rubber band engine being fixed.
Just that Harry knew anything about this FORBIDDEN technology means that it was probably on par with the Cloak which Kirk stole form the Romulans a hundred years earlier or even more basic than that!
Janeway used a form of cloaking technology in Dark Frontier to stay invisible to the Borg, that might count? But it wasn't clear if that tech would work against any one other than the Borg except that it masked them from the Borg scanning technology as much as their physical senses.
If she's going to use a cloak, then she might as well use biogenic weapons too. Law shmaw. Although if it's the spirit of those weapons bans is about killing populations too efficiently or quickly or even slowly or halfassedly, if you're not going for a humane megadeath then you're a right bastard, then her nanotech weapons to kill Borg might have to be shelfed as well and be labeled as a little monstrous for abiding in the creation of.
The Voth had cloaks. The devour had cloaks, and Voyager mastered that technology totally. The scientific method people had cloaks. That hologram who fell in love with Tuvok had a cloak. Hell those Klingons with the plague must have had a cloak even with out Enterprise pushing the inventin of the cloak backwards...
Besides, Janeway thought Ransom was a bitch for always finding stellar anomalies to hide in... Now that bugger, he should have built a cloak, because it was in his character!
Just that Harry knew anything about this FORBIDDEN technology means that it was probably on par with the Cloak which Kirk stole form the Romulans a hundred years earlier or even more basic than that!
Janeway used a form of cloaking technology in Dark Frontier to stay invisible to the Borg, that might count? But it wasn't clear if that tech would work against any one other than the Borg except that it masked them from the Borg scanning technology as much as their physical senses.
If she's going to use a cloak, then she might as well use biogenic weapons too. Law shmaw. Although if it's the spirit of those weapons bans is about killing populations too efficiently or quickly or even slowly or halfassedly, if you're not going for a humane megadeath then you're a right bastard, then her nanotech weapons to kill Borg might have to be shelfed as well and be labeled as a little monstrous for abiding in the creation of.
The Voth had cloaks. The devour had cloaks, and Voyager mastered that technology totally. The scientific method people had cloaks. That hologram who fell in love with Tuvok had a cloak. Hell those Klingons with the plague must have had a cloak even with out Enterprise pushing the inventin of the cloak backwards...
Besides, Janeway thought Ransom was a bitch for always finding stellar anomalies to hide in... Now that bugger, he should have built a cloak, because it was in his character!
A voyager cloaking device...bad bad bad idea. To explain why, here could be the typical plot line.
(Opening credits.)
"Captain's log stardate 51126.8. We're entering a region of space occupied by the vedians."
Tuvok: "Captain, sensors detect 146 Vedian ships closing in on voyager."
Janeway: "Mr. Kim...engage the...
Kim
cuts off the captain) "Yeah yeah yeah.... cloaking device engaged."
The ship slips by the vedians, end of story.
(Closing credits)
explains why the romulins and klingons never received much air time. IT would be too easy.
(Opening credits.)
"Captain's log stardate 51126.8. We're entering a region of space occupied by the vedians."
Tuvok: "Captain, sensors detect 146 Vedian ships closing in on voyager."
Janeway: "Mr. Kim...engage the...
Kim
cuts off the captain) "Yeah yeah yeah.... cloaking device engaged."The ship slips by the vedians, end of story.
(Closing credits)
explains why the romulins and klingons never received much air time. IT would be too easy.
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