Would corporations like Nokia really exist in the 23rd century?

[The Rock]

It seemed kinda funny to see the radio in young Kirk's car to be made by Nokia. I know it was put in there for obvious product placement, but storyline-wise I just can't believe there would still be corporations around in the 23rd century. Especially since the drive for wealth and money would no longer be that important for human civilization during that time.

 

[npsf3000]

Why not, drive for wealth and money has been here since before the Romans...

And Its a TRIBUTE dammit!

 

[Trilliam]

. Especially since the drive for wealth and money would no longer be that important for human civilization during that time.

That always struck me as a nonsensical piece of dingo dropping, to be honest.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Just because the drive for wealth doesn't exist doesn't mean that goods and services are no longer needed by people.

Surely, you don't think the Federation government provides every single thing.

 

[The Rock]

Surely, you don't think the Federation government provides every single thing.

That's what I always figured, lol.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

So, Sisko's was run by the gov't, eh?

Interesting.

 

[The Rock]

So, Sisko's was run by the gov't, eh?

Interesting.

Or everything on the menu was free.

 

[ockhamsrazor]

Story-wise it could be also explained by the Nokia-thingie being an antique by the 2240's or so. Just an opinion.

 

[El Chupacabra]

It's blatant product placement and a huge fuck you to Gene, who would never have allowed such nonsense had he been around today.

I would really upset to see this kind of crap in the movie.

 

[Timo]

Indeed, it would make dramatic sense for the 1960s antique to have some 1990s components in there, and the druncle never really noticing, or paying attention...

It's blatant product placement and a huge fuck you to Gene, who would never have allowed such nonsense had he been around today.

I take it you are being sarcastic about the fact that Roddenberry was whoring away TOS the best he could, inserting new paraphernalia (such as the IDIC symbol - Buy Your Own Now!) into the third season storylines when the old ones weren't selling enough. Had product placement existed back in his time, I'm sure the communicators would have worn prominent AT&T logos, and the cheat lines on the engines nacelles would have been Pan Am blue.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Butters]

It's blatant product placement and a huge fuck you to Gene, who would never have allowed such nonsense had he been around today.

I would really upset to see this kind of crap in the movie.

If only Gene were here today. I'd imagine he'd probably say something like:

"Stop putting fucking words in my mouth..."

Yes, its product placement and yes, it makes money for the studio, thus contributing to the quality of the movie. It also ties this future to my future. I recognise that ring tone, that logo etc and it makes it feel somehow more real. Like Pan Am in 2001: A Space Odyssy.

As for these organisations surviving to the 23rd Century? Why not? Although at the rate we're going, many big names won't survive the next decade, but that doesn't mean there would be no competing organisations in the future, even if motives like money are irrelevant. Nokia may exist in the future to gain some prize other than money for its 'members', prestige perhaps, who knows.

We'd soon stagnate if we were part of one huge government that controlled everything with no pressing need to advance. Necessity is the mother of invention, not some notional need to be improve on ourselves.

 

[Michael Chris]

Yes, most definitely. I doubt Nokia itself will be around, but you never know.

 

[Civil Shadow]

I can imagine it being a skin. Like, Nokia's not around, but the ringtone and visuals are s so distinctive there are fans in the 23rd Century. Sort of like how some people have an LCARS desktop theme.

 

[exalted one]

Nationalized companies often keep their trademarks simply because they are popular with people.

Seeing "NOKIA" on a phone, or hearing someone order "Budweiser", doesn't really prove the existence of NOKIA company, or Anheuser-Busch brewery, in 23rd century. It means only one thing: those marks were popular enough to be kept in use.

 

[ockhamsrazor]

I can imagine it being a skin. Like, Nokia's not around, but the ringtone and visuals are s so distinctive there are fans in the 23rd Century. Sort of like how some people have an LCARS desktop theme.

Nationalized companies often keep their trademarks simply because they are popular with people.

Seeing "NOKIA" on a phone, or hearing someone order "Budweiser", doesn't really prove the existence of NOKIA company, or Anheuser-Busch brewery, in 23rd century. It means only one thing: those marks were popular enough to be kept in use.

Both could be the case.

Like Kirk could easily would have had a hover bike like the cop he encountered in his childhood; instead he had an outdated or less advanced "conventional" two-wheel bike (although most probably not with an inner combustion engine, of course )

He was kind of an antiques fan in the original movies, guess his personality is quite the same.