Worst Episode of ENT

[Mach5]

I also believe Trip wouldn't have slept with T'Pol, believing something was wrong with her. I lost some respect for Trip here.

* Trip loved the idea of T'Pol being jealous simply because he had feelings for her, and those feelings tend to play tricks on one's mind. The poor SOB was so desperate for some Vulcan attention that the idea of something being wrong never came to his mind. And then a super-hot Vulcan chick disrobed before him... What was he supposed to do?

** Harbinger IMO is hardly even the worst S3 ep, let alone one of the worst of the whole show (this is subjective of course, but "Extinction," "The Exile" and "E^2" were much worse).

 

[JiNX-01]

I loved Enterprise and I don't have issues with it like most people.Season 2 was the worst season though, they wasted so much time with theXiindi temperal cold war arc.Season 3&4 were good, I think if they would have given them 1 more season they could have pulled it out of the gutter(somewhat)I think TATV was the worst ep. not becouse it was the last, becouse the way they sent the show off was lame.(don't wan't to spoil it , if you haven't seen it)

Um... Suliban were the aliens in the Temporal Cold War.
The Xindi arc was Season 3.

 

[commodore64]

* Trip loved the idea of T'Pol being jealous simply because he had feelings for her, and those feelings tend to play tricks on one's mind. The poor SOB was so desperate for some Vulcan attention that the idea of something being wrong never came to his mind. And then a super-hot Vulcan chick disrobed before him... What was he supposed to do?

** Harbinger IMO is hardly even the worst S3 ep, let alone one of the worst of the whole show (this is subjective of course, but "Extinction," "The Exile" and "E^2" were much worse).

Hey, this isn't the "What is the worst episode according to Mach5" thread. I gave the reason I didn't like it.

I'll toss your question about Trip back to you. Let's suppose a good pal of yours, who you thought was hot, was acting odd and made a pass at you. Would you say, "Whoah, I think there's something wrong" or "Come on, baby, let's get physical, physical" (nod to Olivia Newton John)?

Although I don't know you well, I think you'd say, "Whoah" and I think Trip would, too.

 

[Mach5]

Hey, this isn't the "What is the worst episode according to Mach5" thread. I gave the reason I didn't like it.

Hey, I'm only expressing my opinion here, just like you and everybody else.

I'll toss your question about Trip back to you. Let's suppose a good pal of yours, who you thought was hot, was acting odd and made a pass at you. Would you say, "Whoah, I think there's something wrong" or "Come on, baby, let's get physical, physical" (nod to Olivia Newton John)?

Wait a minute here... We knew nothing about T'Pol's Trell-D issues before "Damage." Can you honestly say that you yourself noticed something weird about T'Pol before that (in "Harbinger," that is)? What's so darn wrong with the idea of a Vulcan being attracted to a member of opposite sex and becoming a little territorial in the face of rising competition?

Although I don't know you well, I think you'd say, "Whoah" and I think Trip would, too.

Know me *Well?* By now, you probably know my views on ENT, I'll give you that, but what makes you think you know *me* at all?

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Hold it. Mach5, commie, take a breath.

I said in another thread that it's important that everyone respect each other's opinions, no matter how much they may disagree. That's essential in every thread, regarding every topic. It's the only way discussion will remain civil and respectful.

Each viewer has their own unique, subjective perspective on which episode or character works or doesn't work. One person's worst episode will invariably be on someone else's Top Ten List, and vice versa. There are as many opinions about Enterprise as there are viewers. Diversity is what makes the world go 'round.

Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's. But no matter how strongly you believe in your own opinion, or how forcefully you state it, it remains your own subjective opinion. You can disagree all you want with others, but it's not correct to tell them, or even imply, that they're wrong in what they believe.

There is no "right" or "wrong" about personal opinion.

We're all passionate about Trek and Enterprise. Sometimes in our zeal to get our point across, we might state our personal opinion as if it were fact, as in, "That was the worst episode, hands down! No argument! Absolute drek!"...Rather than saying "In my opinion, that episode really sucked," or "I believe..." or "From what I saw..."

Sure, we all know we're expression subjective views here. But it helps to acknowledge to others--and remind ourselves--that we realize that. It keeps folks from taking things the wrong way, or inadvertently taking offense, and it keeps the atmosphere from getting unpleasant for everyone.

I caution you all strongly not to confront each other personally when you disagree. Focus on the post, not the poster.

Remember, there is plenty of room in the world for different points of view.

 

[Mach5]

^ That's exactly why I use the acronym "IMO" in so many of my posts. And "commie" and me are not disrespectful of one another, we are merely thorough in our arguments (Even though she did go a little ahead of herself by inadvertently calling me a male pig...)

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Mach5, you need to dial it back. Any further comments should be taken to PM.

 

[jgdst]

Wow, all these posts and not one vote for Bound I'm shocked. AND appalled.

The ones that stand out to me for being quite poor have already been mentioned I think: Terra Nova (shale!), Rogue Planet, Precious Cargo, Extinction, Exile and TATV.

I'd also be tempted to put North Star in that list. It was another unecessary break in the tempo of season 3, and just didn't seem very likely to me: Alien cowboy colony 50+ light years away, Archer promises to come back, no mention ever made of them again? Doesn't quite do it for me.

As for absolute worst episode (taking TATV out of the running because it's a given ), I think Precious Cargo just edges out Bound. Just!

 

[Mach5]

Wow, all these posts and not one vote for Bound I'm shocked. AND appalled.

Yep, "Bound" was a suckfest (***IMO*** )
It actually suffers from a similar problem as TATV, they were both supposed to be gifts to the fans, one was gonna be the 'valentine' and the other a romantic/comic relief (according to Coto, that is).

The ones that stand out to me for being quite poor have already been mentioned I think: Terra Nova (shale!), Rogue Planet, Precious Cargo, Extinction, Exile and TATV.

(...TN - check, RP - check, Ext - check, Exile - check, TATV - duh!..)

There's one episode no one here mentioned, and I'm under the impression that it's generally liked, but I thought it was completely unnecessary - "E2."
It was a complete rip-off of DS9's "Children of Time," and it didn't add to the Xindi arc in any way. Personally, I've found the Lorian character utterly annoying, and the Old T'pol looked like a scarecrow to me.

 

[cooleddie74]

"E2" was inferior to its DS9 predecessor and inspiration, but I still liked it all the same. Lorian was a strong character and you felt for him by the end of the episode. Sure, it was yet one more time travel gimmick in STAR TREK but at least it introduced a "second" Enterprise into the equation populated by an almost completely different crew. Which made for some nice character interactions.

 

[Nowhere Man]

I loved Enterprise and I don't have issues with it like most people.Season 2 was the worst season though, they wasted so much time with theXiindi temperal cold war arc.Season 3&4 were good, I think if they would have given them 1 more season they could have pulled it out of the gutter(somewhat)I think TATV was the worst ep. not becouse it was the last, becouse the way they sent the show off was lame.(don't wan't to spoil it , if you haven't seen it)

Um... Suliban were the aliens in the Temporal Cold War.
The Xindi arc was Season 3.

Either way they wasted a lot of time with both especially the Xindi thing.I guess I got confused becouse of the time travel element with the Xindi war

 

[commodore64]

Bound was really bad. Precious Cargo is not very good either. And I think they echo some of the badness of Harbinger to me.

Mach 5, I didn't take anything you said personally. My comments were a good natured nudge and I'm sure yours were as well. Sorry if my teasing came off wrong.

Wait a minute here... We knew nothing about T'Pol's Trell-D issues before "Damage." Can you honestly say that you yourself noticed something weird about T'Pol before that (in "Harbinger," that is)? What's so darn wrong with the idea of a Vulcan being attracted to a member of opposite sex and becoming a little territorial in the face of rising competition?

We know she's acting strange though, and I think Trip would, too ... especially if he's her friend.

Know me *Well?* By now, you probably know my views on ENT, I'll give you that, but what makes you think you know *me* at all?

I knew you'd say something about this. I guess my point was -- you seem cooler than the type of person to take advantage of someone. And so does Trip.

By the way (and for the record), I don't think you're a pig.

 

[Mach5]

^ Sweet, case closed.
And we agree on Bound, it sucked. I mean, it had such a cool promo teaser ("Captain Archer has a /*LARGE*/ ... ship") and it turned out a major letdown.

 

[Demiurge]

Marauders. I actually like Night in Sickbay.

 

[Obi Wana Jones]

the incredibly stupid one where T'Pol gets Vulcan AIDS.

What a STUPID STUPID STUPID episode.

 

[bluedana]

I have to agree with cooleddie and Demiurge: Marauders. It's Pixar's A Bug's Life, only not animated, not funny, and with a stupid payoff. At least in A Bug's Life, the grasshoppers aren't going to return and raze the colony to the ground and annihilate everyone like the Klingons probably did the very next week after Marauders.

Any other episode, I can find at least one scene I like to watch. Marauders I skip completely.

 

[trj]

anis,tatv,exile as for harbinger i think its assbackwards to say tucker took advantage of tpol. she took advantage of him.​

 

[Mach5]

Marauders. It's Pixar's A Bug's Life, only not animated, not funny, and with a stupid payoff.

LOL!

i think its assbackwards to say tucker took advantage of tpol. she took advantage of him.

And in a pretty cruel sort of way, I might add. She knew about his feelings for her (or at least strongly suspected), and still used him as a human dildo. A Vulcan should know better, even on a Trell-D high.

 

[commodore64]

I don't think you understand.

Well, I think Trip -- being a man in his thirties -- can control whether he's used or not. I do agree that she stuffed him pretty callously. What I'm saying is that T'Pol *did* make the moves on him, but ... don't you think that in and of itself would've indicated something was wrong? Like, "Huh, she's a Vulcan and she's hitting on me, she hasn't done that before and its weird that a Vulcan would do so."

*I* knew something was wrong, and at that time no one in the audience knew she was huffing trellium. I just thought it was a terrible characterization back then.

 

[trj]

well back to the subject.i forgot about terra nova(think thats the title)what a snoozer.